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[LBIA]

Flybe are to switch the Leeds-Newquay route around to be operated by Newquay based Embraer 175 on Monday, Wednesday & Friday commencing from September 3rd. Meanwhile The Sunday service continues to be operated by Belfast City based Dash 8-Q400.

MON,WED,FRI
BE754 = NQY 15:05 - LBA 16:05
BE753 = LBA 16:35 - LBA 17:40
SUN
BE731 = BHD 09:00 - LBA 10:00 / BE753 = LBA 10:25 - NQY 11:40
BE754 = NQY 12:25 - LBA 13:40 / BE734 = LBA 14:05 - BHD 15:05

[LEEDS APPROACH]

"This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning."

Demand at LBA will fall back towards natural demand as inducement under the previous owners is reduced. Expect the passenger numbers to flatline at best and could easily enter negative territory in 2018. We have seen this same principle at Prestwick, Blackpool and Teesside to name but a few airports. In the next two years we will see why no extra apron has been constructed.

It is an extremely exciting time for the Yorkshire and North East region.

[cornishsimon]

Just to add to the NQY-LBA comment above. This mustn’t be the E95 operating the route as BE currently only “base” one aircraft at NQY and that’s an E95 not 75.

Off the top of my head those timings would also fit with the route being operated between the 2nd and 3rd daily LGW rotations.

So quite a capacity hike on the route.

[Jerry123]

But the E195s are leaving the fleet and E175 replacing them.

[cornishsimon]

So a date has been set ?

[Jerry123]

I believe they will be gone by 2020 with 1 left by summer 2019. Whether that plan has changed i don't know.

[Jetdriver]

Leeds 6 has been “Ppruned” and is now visible and locked. This thread is now significantly “on the radar” and any repetition of the behaviour that resulted in the premature closure of the previous thread will result in the closure of the topic. If you want to report a post use the little warning triangle at the foot of the blue box that comprises the left side of the post in question.

[inOban]

Thank you.

[LBIA]

Well LBA is definitely still growing year on year, that is a fact!
It has been confirmed today that the airport broke the 4 million passenger figure for the first time with 4,078,069 passengers passing through the terminal during the 12 months of 2017..

[DavidShepherd]

Anyone see the new chief exec on Look North?

Claims he wants to double passenger numbers and get someone like Emirates in there.

The journey to and from the airport will be a right laugh if he manages to achieve it. I'm sure all of Yorkshire are waiting with baited breath to spend 15 hours crawling through Horsforth to take advantage.

[anothertyke]

We all know about the surface access issues and the road plans which will not be solved by the airport. Any thoughts on what would have to happen inside the fence to cater for 7 million and whether the new owners are any better placed for capital than Bridgepoint?

[Jetdriver]

Airlines, Airports, and Routes. If RAC routeplanner is of more interest to certain individuals then go and use that site. If you want to set up a website devoted to roads around Leeds with barely a tenuous link to the airport, then go and do it. This thread is on probation, and once again it is Airlines, Airports and Routes on the Professional Pilots Rumour Network. Either this thread gets back on focus or it goes.

[Cazza_fly]

Apologies if already posted in a previous thread - But has there been confirmation that the planned Thomas Cook Airlines base for the summer is no longer going ahead?

The only flights now showing for the Thomas Cook holiday group are - PMI operated by Air Europa and both AYT and DLM operated by Thomas Cook Airlines on a W-pattern.

The planned based unit was originally expected to operate the following;

Leeds/Bradford – Antalya eff 03MAY18 2 weekly A320
Leeds/Bradford – Dalaman eff 05MAY18 2 weekly A320
Leeds/Bradford – Enfidha eff 01MAY18 2 weekly A320
Leeds/Bradford – Larnaca eff 02MAY18 1 weekly A320
Leeds/Bradford – Mahon 25MAY18 – 05OCT18 1 weekly A320
Leeds/Bradford – Palma Mallorca 24MAY18 – 01OCT18 2 weekly A320
Leeds/Bradford – Tenerife South eff 29MAY18

[LBIA]

And the downward spiral continues.

So after only operating the route for 4 months since taking it over from Jet2, it looks as though Flybe are to axe the 6x weekly LBA-DUS route as from March 18th as the route is no longer on sale.

The LBA-BHD service is also to being reduced from 29x weekly to 23x weekly. Losing both the weekday mid morning and Friday evening rotations.

The PSO service between LBA-NQY has a reduced schedule from 5x weekly last summer down to 3x weekly this summer 18.

[ASA Flyer]

LBA-DUS still available on the Flybe website for random dates looked at in July, October and end of March.
Might have been a glitch on their website as when I went on this morning no destinations from anywhere were showing on the drop down list.

[LBIA]

Yeah understand LBA-DUS dissappeared due to a so called "systems error" on Flybe's website. At least it's back sale and not another loss.

[SWBKCB]

The PSO service between LBA-NQY has a reduced schedule from 5x weekly last summer down to 3x weekly this summer 18.

Is this really a PSO?

[LBIA]

Is this really a PSO?


Well LBA-NQY was one of a few service's that was made possible under the UK Government’s "Regional Air Connectivity Fund" The subsidy lasts for 3 years see https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-regional-air-routes-offer-fast-journeys-across-uk-and-europe

[BAladdy]

W18 flights to NQY showing as operating 3 x weekly from 28OCT18

BE753 LBA 13:25 NQY 14:40 DH4 7
BE753 LBA 13:50 NQY 15:05 DH4 2
BE753 LBA 16:15 NQY 17:25 E95 5

BE754 NQY 14:40 LBA 15:45 E95 5
BE754 NQY 15:05 LBA 16:20 DH4 7
BE754 NQY 15:30 LBA 16:45 DH4 2

[SWBKCB]

Well LBA-NQY was one of a few service's that was made possible under the UK Government’s "Regional Air Connectivity Fund" The subsidy lasts for 3 years see https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-regional-air-routes-offer-fast-journeys-across-uk-and-europe

OK - so start up support, and not a PSO as such.

[GayFriendly]

Flybe are swinging the axe across their network as they carry out a structured plan to reduce fleet size and unprofitable flying. Many routes from all bases see frequency cuts this summer and next winter will be the same.

[Keyvon]

New for S18 are Dubrovnik, Antalya and Verona with TUI.

Verona to be operated by Neos.

[BFS BHD]

Jet2 Summer 2019 flights now on sale

[LBIA]

Yeap 45 of the current 47 summer routes currently offered are on sale for Summer 2019 but for some reason both Murcia and Berlin routes are un-bookable after April 29th. I Hope the both haven't been given axe?

[HH6702]

Murica is dropped as airport is closing

[LBIA]

Press release now on the Jet2 website.

https://www.jet2.com/News/49_destinations_from_Leeds_Bradford_for_Summer_19/

[wowzz]

Murcia airport may be closing, but Corvera, just down the road, is opening the following day, so Ryanair could have carried on flying to the area.

[Plane.Silly]

Corvera doesn't suit Jet2 like Murcia did. It's in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of a no fly zone. and to get round it, requires a diversion around Almeria (LEI). They tried reducing flights in favour of ALC for 2015/2016. Maybe this is the kick they need to ditch the region and push everything up the road to ALC.

[LBIA]

Jet2 are adding 3 new routes from Leeds for summer 2019 to Bourgas, Crete-Chania & Izmir all operating 1x weekly using Boeing 737-800 aircraft.

[LBIA]

Jet2's 49th route from LBA for summer 2019 is now on sale. Looks like a it's a direct replacement for Murcia San Javier.

Murcia Corvera = 3x weekly Mon, Wed & Fri

[Flightrider]

Can't see any LBA-ABZ flights on sale after 3 June. Unless a system error or update in progress, looks like LBA's last remaining Scotland service is going.

[Mooncrest]

If Eastern/FlyBe is going to can Aberdeen it might be worth giving Edinburgh or Glasgow a crack instead.

[LBIA]

Thomas Cook Holidays are to open new route from Leeds to Tunisia for summer 2019
Flights will operate once weekly on Wednesday by Tunisian airline Nouvelair using Airbus A320.

[BAladdy]

If Eastern/FlyBe is going to can Aberdeen it might be worth giving Edinburgh or Glasgow a crack instead.
Or maybe the route might appeal to Loganair.

[LBIA]

Are the RAF returning to Yeadon?

As LBA has announced on its social media accounts today that its hosting a week long Military exercise between May 11th and 18th, with aircraft from the UK and overseas operating at the airport.

[Plane.Silly]

Leeds has always been used as a training base, but normally it's just flyovers, or touch-and-go's. I wouldn't expect any different. Nice to see the A400's again though
Just imagining the headlines now if a jet goes supersonic, sending t' good ol' Yorkshire folk into a tizz

[Plane.Silly]

Interesting article about a potential for LBA-FRA
Leeds Bradford-Frankfurt is "Skyscanner Unserved Route of the Week" with 22,000 searches (http://www.anna.aero/2018/05/23/leeds-bradford-frankfurt-is-skyscanner-unserved-route-of-the-week-with-22000-searches/)
With the 'recent' drop in frequency to LHR and AMS/CDG being quite static, might be a decent shot to bring in new hub capacity

[LBIA]

Jet2 have just announced a new once weekly ski route to Turin. Fights will operate on Saturdays starting from December 22nd 2018.

[N707ZS]

Our local rag has a column about the re-working of the departure lounges and how the MD is up to his old tricks trying to get pax from the DTVA area. Comments are closed on the rag so the locals cannot rant about the lack of flights from DTVA and who wants to drive to LBA in the morning.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/business/business-news/first-phase-major-revamp-leeds-14885856

[Mooncrest]

Nothing at all wrong with DL coaxing Teesside-area passengers into using Leeds Bradford. Realistically, these passengers are highly unlikely to be able to get the flight they want from Teesside and DL is probably less likely to be encouraging them to use Newcastle. So, LBA it is. Obvious really.

[Heathrow Harry]

Nothing at all wrong with DL coaxing Teesside-area passengers into using Leeds Bradford. Realistically, these passengers are highly unlikely to be able to get the flight they want from Teesside and DL is probably less likely to be encouraging them to use Newcastle. So, LBA it is. Obvious really.

6 of one half dozen of the other TBH - one you have to go through/round Newcastle & Gateshead or you have to go around Leeds or come via Harrogate on a country road

Newcastle is easier to get to by public transport - train & metro - cp LBA

Doncaster would probably be best by either car or train but not a lot of choice flights wise

[LBIA]

Anyone know if BA's winter schedule is now fully confirmed? The GDS is showing some flights being operated by A320 and A321s instead of just the usual A319s.

I do know the reduced schedule has helped BA increase its average load factor to over 80%., before hand the avarage was below 70%.

[LBIA]

LBA has revealed plans for a multi-million-pound, three-storey extension to its terminal building.
It will house a transformed international arrivals process, including immigration, baggage reclaim, customs on ground floor & a larger departure lounge with more shops on the first and second floors.,
Once the new building is completed works will then commence on re-modelling the existing terminal building to provide a new security central search area, enhanced check-in facilities, and a simplification of the customer journey.
The final phase of works will include the construction of a new pier, replacing the current passenger walkway with a two-storey structure, housing arrivals and ground level, and additional new boarding gates on the first floor. The work is expected all to be completed by summer 2020.

BBC Yorkshire (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45518784)
Yorkshire Post (https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/leeds-bradford-airport-reveals-multi-million-pound-expansion-1-9348237)
Business Desk (http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/2026165-multi-million-pound-terminal-extension-revealed-at-leeds-bradford-airport)

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/500x228/1_500x228_ca1fb46eb94978cbbfe1cb4acfd09f7ed4b8077d.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/624x351/_103432022_airport1976_66170ba4b95f82a42d1f3c60f2b47a5cb68c5 98d.jpg

[VentureGo]

These are the six TUI routes which are being axed from Leeds Bradford Airport

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/transport/these-are-the-six-tui-routes-which-are-being-axed-from-leeds-bradford-airport-1-9478677

Anyone know which airport the aircraft (in post) is being re deployed to?

[VentureGo]

New Terminal gets the go ahead - This is what it will look like:

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/new-leeds-bradford-airport-terminal-gets-the-go-ahead-this-is-what-it-will-look-like-1-9481389

[SWBKCB]

Anyone know which airport the aircraft (in post) is being re deployed to?

Is it not DSA?

[Mr Mac]

Venturego
Looks a little like the "New" Manchester i.e. no architectural master piece, a communal bus shelter not unlike Liverpool. Sorry, but I have been involved with airport projects globally, and have to say the ability of airport operators in the UK to pick the most boring designs is becoming a bit of a joke. I know that one of the worlds big manufacture's is Airbus, but do you have to, in the UK take this literally in building Bus Stations with a shopping mall attached. I realise that much of UK regionals do not have the budget of HK / Singapore but can we get away from the Ral 7016 cladding colour (known as recession Grey in our company) and common to all UK public buildings since 2008. Put some more glass in to show the punters, many who are not regular flyers the beauty of aviation. You can be adventuress without breaking budgets. Years ago I was involved in a minor way in a Public swimming pool project in Colne in Lancashire which won the Sunday Times project of the year for the Hodder Sanderson practice, and they beat some big names in doing that so it can be done on a budget, you just need some vision. I believe Steve Hodder still has a thriving practice, in Manchester so you can even use a local practice !
Regards
Mr Mac

[VentureGo]

Very Inciteful

[SWBKCB]

At least its not a tent! :ok:

[Mooncrest]

I work in that sodding tent - airside baggage - and I wouldn't mind betting third world airports are not as bad. It frequently stinks, on account of having been built over several open drains. There are only two heaters, at one end of the tent, usually with only one working at once. It's as draughty as buggery with at least one of the roller shutters faulty at any one time. And there is no hot and cold running water, which is apparently because the tent is a temporary building. This "temporary" building has been there for fourteen years and has been extended once. Talk about stretching the definition of 'temporary'. I don't suppose for a minute matters will improve. Their directorships have bigger fish to fry just now, like regaining the patronage of TUI and TCX, both of whom have abandoned LBA recently.

[Plane.Silly]

Their directorships have bigger fish to fry just now, like regaining the patronage of TUI and TCX, both of whom have abandoned LBA recently.

I'm pretty sure the incumbents will be able to snap these up, Why deal with 2 extra airlines, increased paperwork and space resources, when you get the others to pick up the slack?

[PDXCWL45]

I'm pretty sure the incumbents will be able to snap these up, Why deal with 2 extra airlines, increased paperwork and space resources, when you get the others to pick up the slack?
Because any airport will want as many airlines as possible operating from it too provide lot's of choice and competition for it's customers .

[N707ZS]

If only they could flatten the whole place and start again, this must be the third add on to the terminal from a different design. The original 60s terminal must be the centre core of the place. Is there any flat level ground, up near the golf course?

[Mooncrest]

If only they could flatten the whole place and start again, this must be the third add on to the terminal from a different design. The original 60s terminal must be the centre core of the place. Is there any flat level ground, up near the golf course?
There is but it's occupied by the hangars. We could always dig out what's left of Plane Tree Hill !

[yeo valley]

Because any airport will want as many airlines as possible operating from it too provide lot's of choice and competition for it's customers .

More than likely BRS will get the TUI aircraft. They will be short of seats s19

[snowman 1]

More than likely BRS will get the TUI aircraft. They will be short of seats s19
1 extra TUI own aircraft allocated to doncaster.
the lba tui summer aircraft was a sun wing plane so more than likely the are saving the lease cost.

[anothertyke]

Is it possible on reasonable assumptions about plane sizes, seasonality of demand for holidays etc, to get 7m pa through LBA without doing something to the number of stands and the taxiways? Is investment planned airside?

[Plane.Silly]

Is it possible on reasonable assumptions about plane sizes, seasonality of demand for holidays etc, to get 7m pa through LBA without doing something to the number of stands and the taxiways? Is investment planned airside?

Very unlikely. the place has only recently hit 4m and is close to bursting, growth definitely needed on all sides (terminal, a/c size and stands/parking) if you want to get the other 3m. (and also to fix the 'tent')

[LBIA]

Bmi returing to LBA!

New route to Munich has been announced this afternoon. Flights will operate 1x daily commencing from April 2019

https://www.flybmi.com/en/press/flybmi-announces-leeds-bradford-to-munich-route

[Plane.Silly]

CEO to step down after 21 months in the job, search for a replacement to start soon

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/exclusive-david-laws-to-step-down-as-leeds-bradford-airport-boss-1-9690732

[LBIA]

Contractors broke ground on Monday starting a years long project to build the new Terminal Extension.

Aviation Minister welcomes new investment to improve passenger experience at Leeds Bradford Airport (https://prlx-k8s-lba.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/About-LBA/Press/aviation-minister-welcomes-new-investment-to-improve-passenger-experience-at-leeds-bradford-airport---08.04.19.pdf)

Walkthrough video

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/940x788/aviation_minister_welcomes_new_investment_to_improve_passeng er_experience_at_leeds_bradford_airport_08_04_19_523fcd934c8 2dd17e9fb082202c60975fe2b2db3.jpg

[LBIA]

A new external image of the terminal extension has appeared on the airports website today

https://www.leedsbradfordairport.co.uk/the-latest/terminal-extension-fly-through

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/740x465/image_4b14d346494483c5b8dac13a66a23d32ff318c90.png

[LBIA]

Aer Lingus Regional have announced its adding 3rd daily Dublin - Leeds flight on Monday, Friday & Sundays as from the winter 2019/2020 schedule.

https://www.leedsbradfordairport.co.uk/the-latest/more-seats-dublin-winter-aer-lingus

[N707ZS]

Just watched the LBA comedy on TV.

[sixchannel]

Just watched the LBA comedy on TV.
Staff seemed to think that guys getting bladdered prior to delayed flight to IBZ (where else) was really great.
Then again, its not their problem once theyve got them on the plane.
​"Docu" LMAO was dumbed down to the lowest level possible.

[P330]

Yes, poor TV. All airlines visible except Jet2 who were blurred out. Wonder why?

I’m sure I saw EasyJet there - didn’t realise they flew from Leeds. Can anyone tell me where they fly to?

[LBIA]

Eastern Airways to increase frequency to 3x daily Mon-Thu on it FlyBe franchise Leeds to Southampton route from September 9th.

[sixchannel]

Eastern Airways to increase frequency to 3x daily Mon-Thu on it FlyBe franchise Leeds to Southampton route from September 9th.
Good news for both airports. SOU needs all the help it can get.

[Asturias56]

TV programme given 1 star in the Times.................. a copy of a copy of a copy of a ..................

[ssflyer]

Yes, poor TV. All airlines visible except Jet2 who were blurred out. Wonder why?

I’m sure I saw EasyJet there - didn’t realise they flew from Leeds. Can anyone tell me where they fly to?

Almost certainly they wanted nothing to do with programme and insisted the airline was excluded.Good move
SS

[sixchannel]

Almost certainly they wanted nothing to do with programme and insisted the airline was excluded.Good move
SS
Or possibly the TV company wanted money to include them in shots and Jet2 refused so they got "blurred".
Quite the most damning confirmation, judging by Swissports and etc etc attitude to drunken behaviour, that the more Pax drink, the funnier they are - or think they are.
And the rest of the pax on the heavily delayed flight will have had to travel with them. Pity the poor CC!

[yeo valley]

Easyjet do a ski route in winter to GVA on a Saturday P330.

[LBIA]

Easyjet do a ski route in winter to GVA on a Saturday P330.

Easyjet have not operated into Leeds for around 2 years now, since they dropped the 4x weekly winter Geneva ski route.


I’m sure I saw EasyJet there - didn’t realise they flew from Leeds. Can anyone tell me where they fly to?


The Orange livered aircraft you saw on the ITV show last night may have been the Canadian Sunwing aircraft, which was based last year.

Also understand that Jet2 had refused to appear on the show, hence its aircraft been pixilated out.

[LBIA]

2 inbound Jet2 flights had to be escorted into LBA last night by Police Helicopter after reporting having lasers shone at their aircraft whilst on final approach to runway 32.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-49343212

Bloody hope they catch the idiots.

[LBIA]

Ryanair has taken off sale 6+ routes from Leeds/Bradford and it looks like the base is being reduced from 3 to 2 based aircraft from end of October/Start of the Winter 2019/2020 schedule.

Routes Dropped
Vilnius = Last flight November 4th 2018
Faro = Last flight November 4th 2018
Fuerteventura = Last Flight November 5th
Gran Canaria = Last flight October 31st 2018
Lanzarote = Last flight January 5th 2019
Murcia Corvera = Last flight October 29th 2019

Routes still operating
Dublin = Remains 13x weekly (2x daily Mon-Sat & 1x Sun)
Riga = Remains 2x weekly (Thu & Sun)
Malta Luqa = Remains 2x weekly (Wed & Sat)
Gdansk = Remains 3x weekly (Mon, Fri & Sun) Mon/Fri flights operated by Ryanairsun
Krakow = Remains 4x weekly (Tue, Thu, Sat & Sun) Tue flight operated by Ryanairsun
Warsaw Modlin = Remains 2x weekly (Thu & Sun)
Wroclaw = Remains 2x weekly (Mon & Fri) both flights operated by Ryanairsun
Bratislava = Remains 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
Alicante = Increased from 4x to 6x weekly (Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat & Sun) - Wed,Thu,Sun flights operated by Alicante based aircraft
Malaga = Decresed from 4x to 3x weekly (Mon, Wed & Fri)
Tenerife South = Remains 3x weekly (Tue, Thu & Sat)

[LBIA]

Good to see Jet2 stepping in to replace some of the lost Ryanair capacity to the Canary Islands from LBA this winter.

https://www.jet2.com/News/Boost_for_Canary_Islands_as_Jet2_com_and_Jet2holidays_adds_c apacity_from_Leeds_Bradford_Airport/

[N707ZS]

I flew from Leeds recently and can honestly say the best advice for the management would be to start again with the terminal. Security check area is like a grey cave with staff wearing scruffy grey T shirts, then you go on a long walk to find you have to go even further. On returning whilst waiting for the ground crew we watched the baggage manglers throwing cases into a cart. Only good side was the friendly welcome from a police lady. Alicante had the best idea just build a new terminal next door.

[rpmac]

Before making your comments N707ZS you could have checked to see that much work is being done behind the scenes to improve the terminal, including Security Check area and a new Arrivals Hall etc. Personally I have found the staff typically Yorkshire ie friendly!

[N707ZS]

rpmac, no complaints about the staff other than the baggage.

[Be a good chap]

KLM adding capacity as of March.

According to a recent press release, their mid- morning AMS-LBA-AMS rotation will be served using a KLM main-line Boeing 737-700 instead of the KLM Cityhopper Embrear E190 from 28th March 2020.
​
​​​An increase in capacity of around 6%.

[LBIA]

Flybe soon to be "Virgin Connect" look to be increasing capacity from Leeds/Bradford next summer 2020 season.

Leeds - Belfast City = Increases from 25x to 32x weekly Dash 8-Q400 - 5x daily Mon-Fri, 3x Sat & 4x Sun

Leeds - Newquay = 2x weekly Dash 8-Q400 - Fri & Sun (Peak summer June to August) Increases to 4x weekly - Mon, Fri, Sat & Sun

Leeds - Southampton = Remains 15x weekly operated by Eastern Airways, BAe Jetstream 41 - 3x daily Mon-Thu, 2x Fri & 1x Sun

[Be a good chap]

Is there any plans for Flybe / Virgin Connect to operate into Virgin's long haul hubs at Heathrow or Gatwick?

[SWBKCB]

Nothing that has been mentioned in public - I'd expect nothing until the third runway is built, unless there's a subsidy involved.

[LBIA]

Would anyone else really want to operate a London route from Leeds?
Its done well just to keep hold of the British Airways service to Heathrow after all this time.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Is there any plans for Flybe / Virgin Connect to operate into Virgin's long haul hubs at Heathrow or Gatwick?
Virgin don’t have a long haul hub at LGW, they really don’t.

[LBIA]

Ryanair have been making yet more changes to the summer 2020 schedule for LBA.

56+ Weekly flights - Was 85+ weekly flights during summer 2019.
1+ based Boeing 737-800 aircraft - Drop from 3x based aircraft in summer 2019.
14+ Routes = Limoges, Dublin, Pisa, Malta, Gdansk, Krakow, Warsaw-Modlin, Wroclaw, Faro, Alicante, Gerona, Ibiza, Malaga & Palma
10+ Routes dropped = Crete-Chania, Corfu, Riga, Vilnius, Bratislava, Fuerteventura, Las Palmas, Arrecife, Murcia-Corvera & Tenerife South

[LBIA]

The planned A65-A658 airport link road has been scrapped by Leeds City Council. Though it's still planning to go ahead with the proposed Airport Parkway Rail Station on the Leeds-Harrogate, which is about a mile and a half away from the terminal building and will be linked with shuttle buses.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-50859029

[EGPO]

This will not help , For LBA to grow as they would like. And given the state of a certain rail operator,
In that Area, and it's longer range relation .
They are both Struggling for reliable rolling stock, old and new. ( Plus struggling with time tables and available paths on existing lines ) .

Having just read a rail publication, that stated an order has been placed to lengthen ' new trains' from five cars sets to.six', and to keep stock , and again add more carriages ., In other words , to add this link.would need an extra full pair at least of between six to eight coach sets to make it viable as a method of tempting folk from their cars , ( who wants to stand , crammed like ' sardines '?).

The rail link is great , but to be meeting the ' climate emergency , they will need to have it as an electrified line, which means finding funding to electrify Harrogate from Leeds .
So the question is , until they sort out the mess of the rail franchise system and other infrastructure in the North it's little more than a pipe dream .

But also not everyone will want to pile a tonne of bags, three kids etc etc, onto some clapped out geriatric hand me down train or ' pacer ', when they can go ' door to door', by car. So to cancel.a scheme , that would have bypassed the built up area, through which one had to travel from Leeds city, to LBA.
is madness, as the airport grows, more will use it, less will use the train, and the pollution levels will be unbearable in the communities along the way .

So well done to the climate protest , and Leeds city council for not seeing the bigger picture.

[N707ZS]

If the neighbouring airports get things sorted there will be no need for expansion.

[SWBKCB]

If the neighbouring airports get things sorted there will be no need for expansion.

Which one do you mean - MAN or DSA? MAN already has it's own train station and links to the motorway network, DSA has good road links and aren't there discussions about a station on the East Coast main line?? :ok:

[N707ZS]

Teesside International Airport is what I mean.

[anothertyke]

. So to cancel.a scheme , that would have bypassed the built up area, through which one had to travel from Leeds city, to LBA.
is madness, as the airport grows, more will use it, less will use the train, and the pollution levels will be unbearable in the communities along the way .
.

Have a look at the map. The traffic in that corridor is regulated by four key intersections, only one of which would have been partially relieved by the link road. The case just didn't stack up.

[Helen49]

I am not opposed to the development of LBIA, neither do I have any loyalty to any other airport, however there are fundamental facts, regarding LBIA which have to be faced.
Being 680 ft above sea level in these latitudes produces weather conditions which are not conducive to flight regularity, unless all aircraft operations are able to perform all weather operations.
A runway which is at right angles to prevailing surface winds is less than ideal and frequently unusable.
The runway gradients, approach gradient [in the 14 direction], some shortish declared distances in both directions [particularly TORA on 32 and LD on 14] far from ideal.
Among the worst surface access in the UK. Nearest motorway/dual carriageway miles away. Limited scope and high costs of any improvement.
Lack of level ground and the consequent expense of all construction projects.
Leeds have rarely been a whole-hearted supporter of the Airport and in fact actively opposed any development of the airport throughout the 1970s.
!Periods of inept ownership and management over the past fifty years.
Of course, during this period Manchester and Doncaster/Sheffield have made huge advances in every respect.
In the light of the above it is sad that such a huge catchment lives right on the doorstep of an airport which has such limited hope of significant further development.
I would love to PROVED wrong!

[Mooncrest]

Agreed, H49. I think some of LBA's historical problems have partly been overcome but the place needs the support of its local council now more than ever. I wonder if the airport would be even more successful today if it was on Bradford's patch ?

BTW, good to hear from you again. Been a while :).

[LBIA]

The owners of Leeds/Bradford Airport, AMP Capital have today revealed plans to build a brand new £150 million Terminal Building to be opened by 2023. The existing 1960's terminal building will be knock down once the new building has opened.

https://www.leedsbradfordairport.co.uk/the-latest/transforming-lba

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/590x371/leeds_bradford_airport_terminal_10_01_20_efe71cda713cbd91940 e23f4a0f0b0ac89df4aaa.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/915x515/lba_e1579084886768_916x516_01e127d5bf556dee5a6baada4552af168 69c1746.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x496/835a54e39c48e739b1027aa87f210eea_a7bc50834e86d4eaa4254868db9 47cab1e729c56.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x360/img_2497_d057587a6e062c78b055423840d2715c5057d7f6.png

https://youtu.be/0Z63rWsf3Qg

[N707ZS]

They seem to have listened to my previous comment about flattening the airport and starting again. In the presentation one of the flash boards says "we are not getting larger".

[PintofDoom]

Great to finally see investment at LBA, a much needed new terminal building, just needs a parallel taxiway, runway resurfacing and a railway connection.

Just needs new security staff with better attitudes and LBA will be excellent.

[N707ZS]

Are they still building the extension of the old terminal that they started last April, seems a big waste of money if they already had this new one on the planning board.

[lbalad]

Don't think they ever started on the new arrivals building.Certainly no building work last few times I've flew out of there last year.

[Be a good chap]

Don't think they ever started on the new arrivals building.Certainly no building work last few times I've flew out of there last year.

Unfortunately I have to agree, but would gladly be proven wrong.

[N707ZS]

Go back to post 60 and there is a photo of people with spades.

[lbalad]

I seem to recall reading that building work ceased after the current Airport CEO Hywel Rees was appointed 6 months or so ago because he wasn't happy with the plans.Stand to be corrected however.

[LBIA]

Some more information on the proposed new terminal has appeared on the LBA website. It's well worth a look.

https://lba-production.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Project_Sky/community-consultation-documents.pdf

They are also inviting the public to comment on the application online, you can find the form to do so at the bottom of the following web page.

https://www.leedsbradfordairport.co.uk/about-leeds-bradford-airport/development

[Buster the Bear]

How much was spent on that document? Whoever the idiot was that wrote Stanstead, kind of makes me wonder what other errors are contained!

[Manchester Exile]

After reading the word “carbon” for about the 50th time I got bored and gave up.

[LBIA]

Jet2 summer 2021 on sale,

Includes 3 new routes from Leeds to Lisbon x2 Weekly (Mon & Fri) along with 1x weekly to both Santorini (Wed) & Skiathos (Thu)

[N707ZS]

Has Ryanair dropped Riga and Vilnius after March even before any virus circumstances.

[LBIA]

Has Ryanair dropped Riga and Vilnius after March even before any virus circumstances.

Leeds - Vilnius route was dropped last October with others when we lost the 3rd based aircraft.

We lose Tenerife, Riga & Bratislava routes at the end of this month at the same time we lose the 2nd based aircraft with the start of the summer 2020 season.
​​​​​​All 3+ routes look to be reinstated from end of October when the 2nd based aircraft returns for the winter 2020 /21 season.

[N707ZS]

Thanks LBIA if anything it will have to be a night flight with Wizz from Doncaster then.

[LBIA]

Here's hoping somebody to replaces the ex Flybe operated Belfast City - Leeds route quickly as we now have no direct link between this part of Yorkshire and Northern Ireland.

Flybe were flying up to 5x daily Dash 8 and carried over 120,000 passengers last year alone.

[ECR]

Here's hoping somebody to replaces the ex Flybe operated Belfast City - Leeds route quickly as we now have no direct link between this part of Yorkshire and Northern Ireland.

Flybe were flying up to 5x daily Dash 8 and carried over 120,000 passengers last year alone.
I can't see 5 flights daily being replaced, but you would think somebody would be interested in one or perhaps two flights a day.

In a dream scenario BA would tag LBA-BHD on to a LHR-LBA service, although that will never happen as BA have zero interest in non London routes.

If there is a downturn in international travel then it might be attractive to Jet2 to use spare capacity to restore their former BFS-LBA routes as there is now no competiton from Flybe.

BHD were very reliant on Flybe so you could imagine they will be offering very good deals for airlines to start routes from there so you might even see Jet2 tempted fly from there. Ryanair don't have that many flights from BFS anymore, so although the pulled out of BHD previously they could be tempted back, and I'm sure a LBA route with no competition would be attractive.

[nowhereasfiled]

I can't see 5 flights daily being replaced, but you would think somebody would be interested in one or perhaps two flights a day.

In a dream scenario BA would tag LBA-BHD on to a LHR-LBA service, although that will never happen as BA have zero interest in non London routes.

If there is a downturn in international travel then it might be attractive to Jet2 to use spare capacity to restore their former BFS-LBA routes as there is now no competiton from Flybe.

BHD were very reliant on Flybe so you could imagine they will be offering very good deals for airlines to start routes from there so you might even see Jet2 tempted fly from there. Ryanair don't have that many flights from BFS anymore, so although the pulled out of BHD previously they could be tempted back, and I'm sure a LBA route with no competition would be attractive.

On the off chance Jet2 started the route, I’d imagine it would be to BFS not BHD, since it’s one of their own bases.

[GAXLN]

Trying to see what Ryanair have on sale for Summer 21 from LBA. There seems to be nothing? Not even Dublin where flights appear but are shown as sold out. Anybody know anything?

[LBIA]

No idea if this is true or not, But according to a post on twitter Ryanair have withdrawn their Leeds Bradford base with immediate effect.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1260199056653135872

[Flightrider]

Saddened to hear the news today that a cornerstone of the LBA establishment for many years - Pat Wainman - passed away last night. Auntie Pat would be known to everyone who had worked or lived around LBA through her times running the Dan-Air, Servisair and then Swissport handling operations through its various guises over the years - I reckon well over 40 years in the airport in all. One of aviation's finest who made time for everyone but fools, and encouraged and helped many on their way in life. A very sad loss to her family but also to the airport community, and a passing that will be difficult to properly recognise given current day constraints.

It's probably outside the normal thread rules, but as an integral part of the airport for so many years, I think it's right to mark this end of a fine era.

[snowman1]

flightrider
thanks for the sad info about aunty pat,the wife and i have a lot to thank her for over the years a lovely person and a great asset to L.B.A.
RIP
anne&tony
sm

[10 DME ARC]

From Ryanair's latest route news;
"As the airline plans to operate reduced frequencies upon resumption, certain routes will not be resumed in summer season, including all flights to/from Leeds/Bradford"

[NoelEvans]

Sad to hear about 'Aunty Pat'. I've known her since AirUK days. She was a part of LBA's history.

[platespinner]

From the latest LBA notams:

May 2020: Open 07:00 - 15:00 hrs on 20, 22, 26 and 27th May.

June 2020: Open 07:00 - 15:00 for 11 days on June 2, 3, 5, 9, 10, 16, 17, 19, 23, 24, and 30th June.

Outside the above times LBA is closed.

Jet2 say they are are recommencing flights on June17th?

[irishlad06]

Looks like flights might be moved back a few weeks - 1st July would make sense

[LBIA]

From the latest LBA notams:

May 2020: Open 07:00 - 15:00 hrs on 20, 22, 26 and 27th May.

June 2020: Open 07:00 - 15:00 for 11 days on June 2, 3, 5, 9, 10, 16, 17, 19, 23, 24, and 30th June.

Outside the above times LBA is closed.

Jet2 say they are are recommencing flights on June17th?

Eastern due to restart on 8th, Tui restart on 12th with there 1x weekly CFU & PMI whilst Air Europa are back on 16th with Weekly PMI.

[L1649]

Eastern due to restart on 8th, Tui restart on 12th with there 1x weekly CFU & PMI whilst Air Europa are back on 16th with Weekly PMI.

The airport doesn't appear to be open on the 8th and 12th of June.

[N707ZS]

Did work start on the brand new terminal.

[adfly]

Eastern due to restart on 8th, Tui restart on 12th with there 1x weekly CFU & PMI whilst Air Europa are back on 16th with Weekly PMI.
Latest on the Eastern website is they are starting a normal schedule from the 15th now. It got pushed back a couple of days ago.

[LBIA]

Did work start on the brand new terminal.

Full planning application was submitted to Leeds City Council last week. For details see https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=Q9SM3LJBKXX00

LBA just sent out the following email to all its customers http://email.lba.co.uk/okNFXNG424epn9tP1xDKmEPjEQiFlvQMxerPRyRjFbg/WebView.aspx

[Trossie]

The Birds – Aristophanes (https://www.ancient-literature.com/greece_aristophanes_birds.html)

[AP1995]

As LBIA posted above, LBA has submitted plans to Leeds City Council for its new terminal - if any aviation/LBA supporters have a spare 5 minutes - a comment of support would be great during these challenging times.

https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=Q9SM3LJBKXX00

20/02559/FU is the search code..

appreciated if anybody does write a support comment!

[Navpi]

I suspect no terminal expansion will be required for 20 years now.

[FFHKG]

Don't be so pessimistic.... air travel within and to/from Asia recovered much quicker than anticipated after SARS. Whilst Covid 19 has had much wider impact across Europe and the Americas, airlines are already beginning to re-schedule flights from July onwards. The biggest impact on LBA could very well be Ryanair's decision to close down operations there.

[LBIA]

Ryanair Summer 2020 and Winter 2020/21 schedule from LBA from is now back on sale.

[paully]

Ryanair Summer 2020 and Winter 2020/21 schedule from LBA from is now back on sale.

Excellent news, even more choice now from the new terminal.

[MDS]

Did RYR and LBA management get into a spat about something to warrant the disappearance and subsequent reappearance?

Very strange indeed.

[N707ZS]

I suspect no terminal expansion will be required for 20 years now.
No expansion just the current one needs demolishing and replacing with one fit for purpose.

[anothertyke]

No expansion just the current one needs demolishing and replacing with one fit for purpose.

Really? I'm sure I saw the airport director on the TV say that they were providing for a capacity of 7m against the current 4m or so. I doubt if you could make much of a business case without some growth in the spreadsheet.

[LBIA]

Not really surprised by this but it looks like British Airways are finally pulling the plug on the slot sitting Heathrow - Leeds route, All future flights have been cancelled and the route is no longer bookable.

[LBIA]

Now Confirmed by British Airways that they are permanently suspending the Leeds/Bradford - London Heathrow route.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/business/british-airways-confirms-it-has-suspended-flights-leeds-bradford-airport-2866474

[platespinner]

Latest NOTAM for LBA, opening hours have been revised.

From 1st June, LBA open TUE - FRI, 07:00 - 15:00 UTC

Outside the above times LBA is closed.

[rog747]

I need to go to Yorkshire asap for a day trip - it is for business
(ATM we cannot stay overnight under the current lock-down rules) and it is a bloody long drive from sleepy Dorset to go for the day, not even gonna go there.

Great, let's fly I thought -

I live fairly local to SOU and wish to use, and support my local airport -
Eastern re-start LBA 29 June.

Very p'''d off to see that although they are now flying again to/from LBA their flight times are totally useless for a day trip - 17.05 departure from SOU.
This will never work for us, so why did they even bother?

OK let's go to LHR -
BA have just announced last week they are dropping their LBA from LHR - An almost continuous link since before my days working at BMA at LHR when we took over the LBA service from BA in 1980. BMA did 4 daily Viscount flights.

Ugh.......

[SWBKCB]

In case you hadn't noticed, the aviation world has had a bit of a shock recently? It's been all over the news...

[rog747]

In case you hadn't noticed, the aviation world has had a bit of a shock recently? It's been all over the news...

Er yes....of course - But we all have to try and get going again and function, as we are being told to.

and SOU is one place that needs to find a new normal as well you know -

But sadly ALL of Eastern's new flights from SOU are simply not going to work with current times - MAN NCL and LBA - none of them are possible for a business day trip - going either to, or from -
Not gonna work sorry. Not sure what Eastern are thinking....
PS
I cannot stay overnight
I do not want to put a car on the road for a 500 mile round trip
I cannot do the trip in a day by train

We do have to all try and get back to working again....You live in the North East you must realise the problems old chap

[inOban]

Drive as far as Birmingham International and get the train the rest of the way?

[rog747]

Drive as far as Birmingham International and get the train the rest of the way?

Thanks for suggestion but that is well over a 3 hour drive up there (If I am lucky) and XC trains from Brum are about as reliable as mine are from dohn 'ere in Dawset....(SWR trains)

[inOban]

I thought that the main problem with XC was, in normal times, the overcrowding, not the reliability. And the awful Voyager trains. I didn't realise that it would take so long to drive to Brum Intl. Bristol Parkway any easier?

[anothertyke]

Drive to Stevenage might be a better bet. M25 might not be too bad atm.

[rog747]

I'm in West Dorset chaps - twixt Weymouth, Dorchester, and Bridport. (rural but not isolated - lol well it once was !)

Have to get to Knottingley Yorks.

[The Nutts Mutts]

How soon do you need to get there? The plan is for SOU's opening hours to increase at some point, hopefully in early July, which will facilitate more daily flights once demand is felt to be there.
Eastern are only operating afternoon flights on restart as that's when SOU is open.

[LBIA]

Looks like Eastern Airways are now taking on the ex flybe route from Leeds/Bradford to Newquay. Flights have just gone on sale commencing from July 9th 2020 operating 5x weekly MON-FRI using BAe Jetstream 41.

[rog747]

The Nutts Mutts

Ideally within next 4 weeks - but am fine now waiting to see the extent of the lock down release re more free up of our public movement, opening of hotels B&B's etc on 4th July....

Yes the timing's of all of Easterns' flights into and out of SOU suit very few...(LBA NCL MAN & MME)

BA LBA flights all have been canned from LHR

Eastern have a NQY-LBA or is it MME? from July which I can have a look at at - to drive to NQY from me is not too bad.

[commit aviation]

Both I believe:
LBA - 5 days a week (Mon - Fri)
MME - 2 days a week (Mon & Fri) initially.

[Leeds No.1]

Hi all, just registered here to remind everybody to register their support for the new terminal as a matter of urgency. There are currently many more objections than letters of support.

As I am new I can't repost the link unfortunately yet. Hopefully somebody else can?

[rog747]

The Nutts Mutts


Need now to go to Yorkshire sooner than later so have booked the train to Doncaster on TUES which I can do from Dorchester West 05.41 to Paddington at 08.30
Taxi over to Kings cross for the 09.30 with an arrival of 11.09.
My client is picking me up there at the station.
Fare was not bad - Open return for £99 by any route (My ticket is also OK for Wakefield)
I can get back down here in the early evening, hopefully without problems.

Will use the plane SOU-LBA next time