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RedhillPhil
5th Jan 2018, 11:42
Multiple rapist being let out stupidly early.
After the next rape how long before some Guardianista ninny says, "lessons will have to be learned"?

jolihokistix
5th Jan 2018, 12:29
Might be able to find a job working for Uber...

Jet II
5th Jan 2018, 12:42
Well you can only incarcerate him for what he has been convicted of doing - and the fact is that he was only ever charged and convicted of a single rape.

NutLoose
5th Jan 2018, 13:05
Simply rearrest him and charge him with others.

Jet II
5th Jan 2018, 13:31
You cant - given all the publicity he would never get a fair trial. You cant blame the Parole Board for following their remit simply because the Police and DPP at the time screwed up.

G-CPTN
5th Jan 2018, 14:56
You cant - given all the publicity he would never get a fair trial.

Didn't stop them charging Rolf Harris with further counts.

Standby Scum
5th Jan 2018, 15:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGj1gcnh6Pc

Jet II
5th Jan 2018, 15:16
Didn't stop them charging Rolf Harris with further counts.

And Harris was acquitted on all charges - in large part because the defence argued he couldnt get a fair trial.

John Marsh
5th Jan 2018, 15:49
Jet II:

Well you can only incarcerate him for what he has been convicted of doing - and the fact is that he was only ever charged and convicted of a single rape.More than rape:

Ultimately, Worboys was convicted of nineteen offences. According to the BBC, these comprised one count of rape, five counts of sexual assault, one count of attempted sexual assault and twelve counts relating to “drugging”.

/.../

On 21 April 2009, Worboys was sentenced to terms of imprisonment for public protection (IPP) on all counts. For all but two, the tariff was 5 years, with the tariff for two offences (one presumes the rape and one of the sexual assaults) being set at 8 years, to run concurrently.Source (http://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/man-raped-hundreds-women-released-prison-9-years/)

The phrase 'to run concurrently' draws my attention. How does prison time served 'concurrently' differ materially from time served for an individual sentence? Is this anything other than a judicial fudge created to ease prison overcrowding?

WRT his supposed 'reformed' character justifying his release: according to Norman Parker, it is relatively easy to generate a glowing prison record for the Parole Board to review. Simply avoid violent or disruptive behaviour and obey prison rules. (Not to say that Parker himself always did thus.)

Furthermore, what opportunity or temptation was there for Worboys to indulge his perversion whilst inside? Little if any, I suspect. The acid test on his 'reformed' character is reserved for after his release.

teeteringhead
5th Jan 2018, 15:52
The acid test on his 'reformed' character is reserved for after his release. But that introduces an unsolvable conundrum, does it not?

On those grounds he can only prove he is fit for release after being released.......

Kiltrash
5th Jan 2018, 16:20
What I don't understand is the concept of early release
Sentence to x years means x years then release if deamed to be safe or kept longer if not seamed safe

Whole life means die in prison.... no option for release anytime

G-CPTN
5th Jan 2018, 16:30
The video describes Warboys as being very personable and akin to a confidence trickster.

The thing about good confidence tricksters is that they are very clever at being persuasive and convincing their victims.

pax britanica
5th Jan 2018, 16:33
The term life sentence sums things up when they have to define what a life sentence is.

To the rest of us there is no middle ground-if you are not live you are dead so a life sentence should mean just that - you only get out in a coffin. For anything else it should just a be a suitable number of years -in fact getting 25 years is probably longer than most life sentences anyway which is even more silly.

WilliumMate
5th Jan 2018, 16:50
He was sentenced to an indeterminate/indefinite term of imprisonment with a minimum of 8 years. The DPP could have appealed the minimum tariff as too little but assumed that no parole board would sanction release after 8 years given the seriousness of the offences. Bit lazy really.

John Marsh
5th Jan 2018, 17:25
But that introduces an unsolvable conundrum, does it not?

On those grounds he can only prove he is fit for release after being released.......

To a degree. In this case, there could theoretically have been a test prior to release. Involve the prisoner in rehabilitation programmes staffed by females. Arrange for any female prison staff to put tempation his way.

I'm aware of the risk involved in doing any of this...but that just highlights the risk to be posed to the public, doesn't it?

At least, in cases involving homosexual deviants, the prison environment serves as some form of test chamber WRT continued risk.

Effluent Man
5th Jan 2018, 18:16
Don't grant him a new identity. Problem quickly solved.