SunExpress Mollymawk test.

[Mlambin]

I got invited for this test in 2 weeks in Antalya.

I succeed the DLR in July but unfortunately they don't accept it.

I am hesitant about it as they ask you to pay a training package (?€, on mollymawk website) which is mandatory plus 40€/ night hotel room ( 2 nights ) plus my train to Duesseldorf (around 120€) to take a SunExpress free flight.

It might sounds cheap but I am very short in money (one kid and wife) and all combined I am not sure it worth it.

I have 30hours left to give my answer if I am going or not.

Any comment on te airline, the selection process, how many people are invited, etcetera that could help me taking my decision.

Big thanks !

[appfo09]

Hi Mlambin,

I would say give it a shot why not? You do not have anything to lose especially if this will or might be your first lucky chance of actually landing that first flying job.

By the way what sort of qualifications do you have and how did you applied for SunExpress? Was that through Interpersonal? Do you have a type rating on the Boeing 737?

Thank you!

[Mlambin]

I don't remember how I applied because I did it long time ago and I don't hold any ratings.

If I'm not mistaken they recently opened the FO to foreigners and so on they contacted me.

I'm scared of seeing 200 pilots there and spending more money in this.

[Newpilot2017]

Hi there,

Im working at sunexpress since last year, I would definitely give it a try. They dont invite like 200 people at once.

[P40Warhawk]

Hi Mlambin,

I guess you got invited then for the SXS? Not SXD?
If that is the case, then yes it should be Mollymawk.

I was at SXD Assessment. There were like 12 people. So I think for the Turkish Sunexpress will be the same, but you should take this chance. It is a good Airline to start your career. There will be always someone who could lend you this money somehow. Work hard to pass the assessment. If you pass, then you have a good job on an good Aircraft. Dont throw away this chance. No matter what, you should go for it.

You never know when you get another chance with just your F ATPL and 200 hrs.

[Mlambin]

Newpilot2017 Hi there,

Alright good news. After a little talk with my wife I decide to go and you make me feel more confident about it.

[Mlambin]

Little update !

It's 300€ the package necessary to practice the test before going to the real one. They clearly making money on us. I am upset about the prices.

Nevertheless I will take my chance and work as much as possible to succeed this test battery !

[PilotY1]

Hi all, I also have a molly mawk test at the end of the month. Could anyone who has taken them before give an idea if it's the same style as most other testings; basic maths, unit conversions, percentages, fractions. English? Science is basic Physics?

[Mlambin]

You will see what it is when practicing on the website. From what I understood it is very similar to that.

[PilotY1]

Do we need a minimum grade?

[pelikancanadair]

Do you confirm SunExpress is nw open to foreign FO

[sfarxo]

I applied for SXS back in September and got a PFO mail, the reason was they werent recruiting foreigners at the moment. Perhaps its time to send another application?

[appfo09]

The same here. I hope they will inform us once they will welcome foreigners again!

[Wezzel]

Hi! Does Sunexpress require you to do the mollymawk test with 500+ hours on type?

[Mlambin]

Hi! Does Sunexpress require you to do the mollymawk test with 500+ hours on type?

I would say most probably yes.

I succeed all the steps between January and February (mollymawk,SIM and interview) and I'm Belgian.

Now I am waiting for further news for almost 2 months. Not so easy to wait.

[PilotJamie]

I would say most probably yes.

I succeed all the steps between January and February (mollymawk,SIM and interview) and I'm Belgian.

Now I am waiting for further news for almost 2 months. Not so easy to wait.


i hope you’re still not waiting! Are you however? I find that a real struggle to understand, you are now waiting to start the TR?

furhtermore, how have you enjoyed the process?

[Mlambin]

i hope you’re still not waiting! Are you however? I find that a real struggle to understand, you are now waiting to start the TR?

furhtermore, how have you enjoyed the process?

I'm still waiting ! Being honest I don't expect to be called before the end of summer and I'm ready to wait longer ;-)

The process was fine. Not stressful because the dates have around 2weeks between each others.

I'm working ahead of the TR.

[paulo204]

I'm still waiting ! Being honest I don't expect to be called before the end of summer and I'm ready to wait longer ;-)

The process was fine. Not stressful because the dates have around 2weeks between each others.

I'm working ahead of the TR.


Hi Mlambin,

I am in the same situation as you, I am invite to the assesments with sun express.
I would like to talk with you about your experience if could be possible.
My email is [email protected]
If you could write me down I will really appreciate

Have a nice day!

[Mlambin]

Hi Mlambin,

I am in the same situation as you, I am invite to the assesments with sun express.
I would like to talk with you about your experience if could be possible.
My email is [email protected]
If you could write me down I will really appreciate

Have a nice day!

With pleasure. Check you private messages.

[Mlambin]

With pleasure. Check you private messages.

​​​​​​I can't PM you so I will send you a mail.

[Fly_for_food]

[email protected]

[Fulvio91]

Dear ALL ,

i have been invited for the mollymawk test the 10th of december in Antalya. Someone is coming too ? Any suggestion of what I I'm going to do on the phase 1 ( mollymawk test ).

[Mlambin]

Not much to say. As soon as you get the training package make sure you are practicing well and honestly because it's the same in live.

Everything is well explained in the package !

[qetech]

Math and Science are really easy. Prepare well to the examples.

Time Sharing is a bit more difficult than trials. Expect to hear bigger numbers such as 4-5 digits. But most of numbers are like in trials.

Working memory is same as trials. There is no difference at all.

Spatial is also same. But expect to see mazes that you don't see in trials.

[J74]

hey guys,
any tips and hint for the Mollymawk test?
Besides the package they will send to you, is there anything I can do before on the net?
I saw some Mollymawk example on youtube, but some are with no volume, so i cant understand the logic or the instruction.
thanks to everyone that could address me !

ps
How many modules? and names of these? thanks

[mohamedehab]

Hello guys ,

Actually I just got invitation for SXS Mollymawk Assessment in Turkey this month and I would like to know from the people who went there did you make it or not because they told me after the Mollymawk I have to go back to my home country and expect reply in 10 to 15 days if I passed to attend the SIM check so I want to know does it worth it or not because I am working on private jet and I will need to take days off and I am not sure If I can take another days off to attend the SIM?

So I just would like to hear your feedback from the people who went there.

[pilot1997]

Hey Mohamed,

I just can tell its pretty hard think twice before going if you have enough time to prepare well. You need to spend at least 2 weeks for preparation for the test. on 4 march we were 5 guys and no one passed the test. and some guys were very very good prepared. Real tests is harder then practise.

Regards

[Vaero]

Hey Mohamed,

I just can tell its pretty hard think twice before going if you have enough time to prepare well. You need to spend at least 2 weeks for preparation for the test. on 4 march we were 5 guys and no one passed the test. and some guys were very very good prepared. Real tests is harder then practise.

Regards

I tried to send an PM but your inbox seems to be full.

Can you help clarify what is harder than the practice? Is it the English/Math/Physics or the other exercises and what can be done to prepare well?

Would really appreciate any help!

[miguelcosta1]

Hi guys,´

I just got an email for the Mollymawk tests on the 11 of April. Is anyone going on that date?
Also, the package you're talking is it the purchase of the tests on the website?

Thanks,
Miguel Costa

[krumplizserbo]

Hi miguelcosta1,

I am going on the 11 of April as well. I registered on molly but haven't purchased the packages yet.
Any tips for practice other than molly?

Cheers

[Dutch_PILOT_MST]

Hello miguelcosta1 and krumplizserbo,

I am also going to Antalya the 11th of April. I just registered on molly and buy the first preparation package (Basic Skills). I use also the sky test for the preparation, but I like also more practice tips, especially from people who did the test over there.

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,

Dutch_PILOT_MST

[appfo09]

Guys, just a quick question! Did you also have to do the English test (IETP) before proceeding with the actual Mollymawk test?

Thank you!

[Dutch_PILOT_MST]

Yes, I did the iTEP English test before.

[lhc7664]

I will strongly suggest anyone doing the Mollymawk test to invest in the math and science prep. from atpl.tv

You'll also get some tips and tricks for the aptitude tests. It was worth every penny for me, and the reason I passed the Mollymawk!

[appfo09]

Thank you for sharing! Great website. A bit expensive but it might be worth more than other online test prep.

[Dutch_PILOT_MST]

Many thanks for sharing lhc7664!

[mavi8or]

It would be great if the ones who passed Mollymawk recently can tell us how their results were in practices as well as the main test in terms of accuracy and speed and preferably percentile in each individual section.

[appfo09]

I agree with MohammadGh, please be so kind and share your experiences with us. How much does the Mollymawk test costs? Does the company offer any compensation?

[krumplizserbo]

Hi as I mentioned above I am going the 11th April, Molly was 300 euros. In english, math, science you only have 2 practice sessions each, and for spatial orientation, time sharing, working memory 10 each online. I don't know of any compensation but they provide flight tickets if you fly with them for assessment.

[appfo09]

Is it a requirement to buy the Mollymawk tests?

Thank you!

[miguelcosta1]

Hi miguelcosta1,

I am going on the 11 of April as well. I registered on molly but haven't purchased the packages yet.
Any tips for practice other than molly?

Cheers

Hi mate sorry for late reply. Unfortunately i don't know any other places to practice no which sucks because i don't think 10 is enough though

[miguelcosta1]

Unfortunately yes mate.

[krumplizserbo]

Is it a requirement to buy the Mollymawk tests?
Thank you! Yes unfortunately. I think it is the price of the examination, the provided practise test are "just free bonus" as they say on their site.

[pilot freak]

Any idea how many pilots they are looking for?

[777_kh]

Hello guys do anyone of you have an idea about the passing marks for the basic aptitudes tests?
thanks!

[pilot freak]

For the guys attending the Mollymawk test on the 11th, how did it go?

[lhc7664]

I heard 9 attended but only 3 passed. Wasn´t there myself though..

[seven37]

There were 9 of us and 3 of us passed (as lhc7664 wrote). Physics, Math, English were easy for everyone. Most people failed 2 of the aptitude tests.

[Alii Ad]

heyy guys i am invited to do the mollymawk test on 6th or may if anyone has passed or been through the exam can you please give a full review on it
such as what they start with what type of question difficulty and any other suggestions or advices

[Chilavert]

Hi seven37,
I have appointment for Mollymawk test next month. Do you know about passing score? Just wonder especially about aptitude assessment if my training results are good or not. Thanks for reply.

[reiting]

How long after sending your initial documents you got invited to the test ?

[darkLand]

Hi guys,
I got invitation for end of May as well,
Already started preperations. Seems like the test exams are quite straightforward.
My friends says some games are quite tricky, one failed from the maze one even he was pretty good in the exercises.
I try 2 things for study lumosity penguen pursuit and avimaze game in iphone.
They say avimaze is almost identical the one in the exam, even the mazes are same.
But couldnt find a way to study other games.
Any suggestions

[lacensilk]

Hi guys,
I got invitation for end of May as well,
Already started preperations. Seems like the test exams are quite straightforward.
My friends says some games are quite tricky, one failed from the maze one even he was pretty good in the exercises.
I try 2 things for study lumosity penguen pursuit and avimaze game in iphone.
They say avimaze is almost identical the one in the exam, even the mazes are same.
But couldnt find a way to study other games.
Any suggestions


Hiya I entered mollymawk to google play and some useful things came up, try it, one of them being molly maze.
can I ask you how long did you wait after submiting itep test?

[flzer]

Hi mate sorry for late reply. Unfortunately i don't know any other places to practice no which sucks because i don't think 10 is enough though

Hi, I was able to find a mobile game for mobile in games4pilots.com for the maze exam.. Anyone could find any resources for the other games?

[paulom]

Hello,

I am new here but I'm taking the Mollymawk in june in Hamburg. I was wondering if the online training tools they provide online is sufficient ? Or should I buy an software to train more ? It seems realistic but I would like to train enough to be above average...

[pilot freak]

Anyone passed the Sunexpress assessment and starting with the type rating yet?

[appfo09]

Hello Fellows,

For those of you who are interested in practicing for the Mollymawk test, (Skytest & atpl.tv). Worth the money spent there.

Hope it helps!

[PilotLew]

Anyone passed the Sunexpress assessment and starting with the type rating yet?

I passed last week and I am due to start in autumn subject to my work permit.

If anyone would like any advice feel free to PM me and I’ll help you guys as best as I can.

Just as a side note for those who are yet to visit them in Antalya...they’re a fantastic company and all of the people you will meet there are great!!

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[daniel88]

Dear PilotLew,

I would be very much interested about the company interview with SunExpress which is the last stage for me coming soon in Antalya. As you can imagine I am very motivated and I want to get the job. I would be thankful if you can share your experience and give me your feedback about the interview if you don't mind.

Thank you in advance for your help!

Cheers

[OkayOkay]

I passed last week and I am due to start in autumn subject to my work permit.

If anyone would like any advice feel free to PM me and I’ll help you guys as best as I can.

Just as a side note for those who are yet to visit them in Antalya...they’re a fantastic company and all of the people you will meet there are great!!

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Good Afternoon PilotLew,I hope your well and do not mind me PM'ing​​​​​I am due to take the mollymawk test in a week or so for sun express Antalya. I am using the atpl.tv revision tools as my main source of revision as well as the free trials on the mollymawk website. Could you suggest any other prep I could do before I take part in the real test.Thank youMuch appreciated.

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[OB.1976]

Hi Mlambin,

I am in the same situation as you, I am invite to the assesments with sun express.
I would like to talk with you about your experience if could be possible.
My email is [email protected]
If you could write me down I will really appreciate

Have a nice day!
Hi Mlambin,
Could you give us please more information ragarding maths, science and english of the actual test ?
Thank you in advance!

[miguelcosta1]

I passed last week and I am due to start in autumn subject to my work permit.

If anyone would like any advice feel free to PM me and I’ll help you guys as best as I can.

Just as a side note for those who are yet to visit them in Antalya...they’re a fantastic company and all of the people you will meet there are great!!

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Hi mate, Ive got my final interview next week in Antalya and Im freaking out a bit not only with the technical questions but also because of the quick fire mental questions and questions about turkey (apparently they ask you the names of all cities, etc).
Should you give me any advice regarding the interview would be awesome. Thanks mate.

P.s: Have you heard anything back for a starting date.

Thanks in advance.
Miguel Costa

[B77WPilot]

Anyone going for the mollymawk on 29th of August?

[PilotSingh84]

Hey mate good luck, I am going to take this test next week on 6th September, let us know about mollymawk test, thanks mate and good luck

[B77WPilot]

Hey mate good luck, I am going to take this test next week on 6th September, let us know about mollymawk test, thanks mate and good luck
It's almost the same as the ones you practice from home. The only difference is in the time sharing part. In the last 5 mins you will start getting 5 digit numbers. You won't have to do the English test since you already did the ITEP.
The scores they want are: maths and science above 60% and for the psychometrics your efficiency must be above 25 in all areas.

[PilotSingh84]

60 percent is a good atleast we have margin of errors, still struggling with working memory concept around 15errors always.. Lets hope for the best, 2 friend of mine have passed past week the test, they said same thing that you mentioned.. They said it is not that tough.. Lets see, good luck again cheers

[Hogos]

Hi guys !
Does anyone know if a recently passed DLR could be recognised in place of the Mallymawk test ?
Because in the initial stage of my application I ticked "No DLR taken".
Now I have recently passed it for another airline.
It would be great !

Thanks

[PilotSingh84]

Negative mate as far as I know, sunexpress doesn't recognize DLR, yu got to do mollymawk test with them. 😊

[me179]

Mollymawk Training Points,

Guys, what points are you getting during the Mollymawk preparation. Any one less than 200 points in the Maze, more than 3300 in the TimeSharing and better than 870 in the memory? Does anyone knows the average they are asking for ?

[Hogos]

Negative mate as far as I know, sunexpress doesn't recognize DLR, yu got to do mollymawk test with them. 😊

Ok, I can't remember where I read that, maybe I'm wrong.
Thanks

[frkippy]

Mollymawk Training Points,

Guys, what points are you getting during the Mollymawk preparation. Any one less than 200 points in the Maze, more than 3300 in the TimeSharing and better than 870 in the memory? Does anyone knows the average they are asking for ?


Turning around 520 for the maze doing around 170 sec and less than 20 errors.
For the time sharing , best score after 3 attempts 3900 , however a friend of mine was doing 4500 but failed the test (I am assuming he did the same performance during the test).
For the working memory score : 812 with 2 errors and 812 secs. My friends also failed the working memory while he was doing 820 during his prep.

Can you give more details about your working memory results please?
thanks

[mavi8or]

Ok, I can't remember where I read that, maybe I'm wrong.
Thanks

Ironically there is ''DLR Experience'' on the ''Short Information" section on their pilot application, that's probably where you have seen it. But I doubt it too if they accept DLR!

[mavi8or]

Mollymawk Training Points,

Guys, what points are you getting during the Mollymawk preparation. Any one less than 200 points in the Maze, more than 3300 in the TimeSharing and better than 870 in the memory? Does anyone knows the average they are asking for ?

Hey mate,

The grades they are looking for in the aptitude modules, as previously said, is 25%, which means 25 percent better than other candidates who took the test and it depends on the age range one is competing with. (Your age ± 5 years, a 10 year age range)
Based on the excel sheet, for some age range, the scores on following translated into 25% at the time of composing it: ( grades change over time as new candidates take tests)
Time-Sharing: 3900
Working Memory: Time 800 sec, 5 Errors
Spatial Orientation: Time 180sec, 10 Errors

So do your best to at least get these scores before attending the certificate test, as the main test is slightly harder than the trials. ( different mazes and some 4,5 digit numbers in Time-Sharing)
You can find the link to the source where I got the info from below. ( As I couldn't paste the link here directly, so I had to paste it in a file and upload it instead). It contains a lot more stuff like the unlimited mode etc. and I found it quite useful. You can take your time, translate and benefit from it.

Best of luck and keep the blue side up ;)

[frkippy]

If everything goes well, how long can we expect the process to last?
I mean from the mollymawk test day to the interview day , how many weeks can we wait in average ? (taking into account the sim without any failure)

thanks

[Hawker400]

If everything goes well, how long can we expect the process to last?
I mean from the mollymawk test day to the interview day , how many weeks can we wait in average ? (taking into account the sim without any failure)

thanks

A friend has his mollymawk in 10 days. Current scheduling has him going for sim 2 weeks later and interview in mid-november.

[mavi8or]

If everything goes well, how long can we expect the process to last?
I mean from the mollymawk test day to the interview day , how many weeks can we wait in average ? (taking into account the sim without any failure)

thanks
It takes around 2 to 3 months from start till the end. ( depending on if one already has an English test and Mollymawk certificates or not. And yes w/o failing sim, as it's not possible to retake it unlike the Mollymawk!) Though it apparently used to be scheduled for a few days all in one trip back in the days.

[me179]

Frkippy,

I cant reply to your PM, your Inbox seems to be full.

[frkippy]

Frkippy,

I cant reply to your PM, your Inbox seems to be full.


me179

I am sorry for that, I just made some space in my inbox.

[PilotLew]

Anyone else on here starting their type rating on 21st October?

[Arty Nal Toffanin]

Is there anyone going for the 1st stage on the 25th of SEP?

[MarTaq]

Anyone else on here starting their type rating on 21st October?

Hey man, I passed the Mollymawk and have the simulator soon, can I ask you a few questions in private? please DM your email.
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[MarTaq]

Anyone else on here starting their type rating on 21st October?
Hey man, sorry my inbox was full. Please send me again your email in the DM

[FilipeReis]

Hello beautiful people.

Anyone applying at the moment? Any news about how many people they are thinking in taking and when?

Regards

[PilotSingh84]

Hello beautiful people.

Anyone applying at the moment? Any news about how many people they are thinking in taking and when?

Regards
Hey man, yeah they're still hiring, because many people don't get through MOLLYMAWK TEST, I myself have to repeat the Aptitude Test, go on mate and apply.

[FilipeReis]

Awesome!

I did apply and I'm going through the English thing. Hopefully will have good news before the end of the year!

[PilotSingh84]

Good English test is easy peasy not that tough, but mollymawk ain't easy, when you get through English test, and receive the invitation for mollymawk test, go to ATPL.TV get one month subscription for mollymawk test, and get used to it, trust me it's worth it.. Have good mate and good luck..

[FilipeReis]

Good English test is easy peasy not that tough, but mollymawk ain't easy, when you get through English test, and receive the invitation for mollymawk test, go to ATPL.TV get one month subscription for mollymawk test, and get used to it, trust me it's worth it.. Have good mate and good luck..

I'm no worried about the test. I'm living in the UK for over 10years and have a level 6 on my british licence. After, I will obviously work a lot around the test. I really hope to get this done asap and hopefully enjoy xmas in Turkey!

[FilipeReis]

Good news. Got my assessment day for the Mollymawk test on the 5th of November. Anyone else going?

[Mlambin]

When did you receive this invitation ?

When did you do the English test ?

Thanks

[miguelcosta1]

Anyone here starting type rating in 2 weeks?

Get in touch. Thanks, Miguel Costa

[NicolaiN]

Anyone here starting type rating in 2 weeks?

Get in touch. Thanks, Miguel Costa
I sent you a pm

[NicolaiN]

Hello guys.

I recently got invited to to the Mollymawk tests as well, after passing a phone interview and then an ITEP test at home.

Any ideas of how to prepare? I found this online, is it reputable? avtest.cryo.dev

Thanks in advance!
ATPL.tv
Helped a lot of us

[lhc7664]

Thanks, I got that but it only has questions, not the games. I think 10 runs of the games are not enough for me.
Then you have clearly not understood what you've just purchased! I suggest you read the email you get from atpl.tv regarding the aptitude tests.

[Eligio]

Then you have clearly not understood what you've just purchased! I suggest you read the email you get from atpl.tv regarding the aptitude tests.

Hello guys. I performed the mollymawk test two days ago for SunExpress. We were 7 candidates, and guess what: EVERYBODY FAILED.

We all passed the mathematics and science test, thanks to ATPL.TV of course, but everybody failed the aptitudes tests.

they give you the opportunity to try it again but after one week, but you need to cover all the expenses. You can even perform the test in Hamburg and send the results to SunExpress.

We were all well prepared for the mollymawk, but we failed. It is not so easy. So think about it twice or prepare yourself perfectly otherwise there is no choice.

[lhc7664]

lhc7664 As Eligio said, ATPL.tv only has MATHS and SCIENCE! There are NO games to train for there, and I didn't get any email about that.

I have the Mollymawk in November and found the games on the site I mentioned earlier (avtest.cryo.dev), I purchased for a month and it actually looks 99% like the test runs on Mollymawk. I will train a now as much as I can and hopefully pass, I have heard from other pilots you need to train a lot to pass the games.
Okay, very good! Just had a look at the link you mentions - it does look a lot like the aptitude tests for the Mollymawk.

I know you can only buy preparation packages for math and science via atpl.tv, but if the guidance for the aptitude tests is not in it anymore, then it has been changed recently.

[Ces96]

Hello guys. I received a call from Sun Express one month ago and they told me that I passed however I still haven't received the invitation to the online test. How long did you have to wait between the call and the english test ?

Thank you

[Hawker400]

Hello guys. I received a call from Sun Express one month ago and they told me that I passed however I still haven't received the invitation to the online test. How long did you have to wait between the call and the english test ?

Thank you

Roughly 3.5 weeks for me. Check your spam because its not from Sunexpress. It's directly from the English testing company.

[Amidoo]

Anybody here who was recently successful could tell us when or if they got a start date and received the contract ? Would me much appreciated.

[pilotbekesi]

going for the molly on the 20th

[Hawker400]

Anybody here who was recently successful could tell us when or if they got a start date and received the contract ? Would me much appreciated.

Depends if you have a Turkish passport or not. If Turkish less than a week you have a start date, last months TK candidates started monday last week. If foreigner it can take more than a month but they will tell you personally if you are successful at the last stage, including feedback which is a rare sight nowadays.

The way they are (at least a month ago) they will do what they can to get you moving ASAP.

[pilot0808]

Hello

After having donne the english online test that took place some weeks ago (3 or 4 weeks) I am waiting for the next step.
This would be (Mollymawk in Antalya).
Is anyone else in the same situation waiting for a response from Sunexpress?
Does anyone know when the next Mollymawk-test is planned?

Regards,

[r0zvram]

Any words yet?

[jacke_95]

Hi!
I did my iTEP English test in the beginning of November and it took about 2 weeks for them to reply, but i didn't receive any results of the test only the invitation for the next step (Mollymawk), i am scheduled on the 19th of December. Any one else having the test on the same day?

Regards,

[Mlambin]

Hello

After having donne the english online test that took place some weeks ago (3 or 4 weeks) I am waiting for the next step.
This would be (Mollymawk in Antalya).
Is anyone else in the same situation waiting for a response from Sunexpress?
Does anyone know when the next Mollymawk-test is planned?

Regards,

I have a friend in the same situation as yours but his English test was about 3 months ago with a positive result.

​​​​​​

[inabw]

I've completed the english test at the beginning of November but after this I had not answers or feedback yet.
I don't understand if they provide it only in positive case or also in negative case.

[ljop]

Hi Eveyone,

Anyone got invited for DEC 24 ?

[inabw]

Hi Eveyone,

Anyone got invited for DEC 24 ?
Hi mate, did you receive the invite via mail?

[ljop]

Hi mate, did you receive the invite via mail?

Yes, mate. I Received the invitation via email

[r0zvram]

DEC20 in my case

[r0zvram]

Did you received travel information yet?

[inabw]

Yes, mate. I Received the invitation via email
Thanks mate

[pilotbekesi]

Did you received travel information yet?

Yes, I did

[r0zvram]

Hello

After having donne the english online test that took place some weeks ago (3 or 4 weeks) I am waiting for the next step.
This would be (Mollymawk in Antalya).
Is anyone else in the same situation waiting for a response from Sunexpress?
Does anyone know when the next Mollymawk-test is planned?

Regards,

Any words yet?

[r0zvram]

Hi Eveyone,

Anyone got invited for DEC 24 ?
Good luck today.. let us know the outcome

[ljop]

Good luck today.. let us know the outcome
Hey man! I passed the exam!

[FromSummerToWinter]

Hey guys, I have a question.
For European people, in case we are successfull in all steps and accepted in the cadet program at SunExpress, where does the training take place ?
If it's in Turkey, do you think we need to have a degree translation in Turkish ? i.e. if we have a European Bachelor Degree, do we have to translate it in Turkish so that we follow the training in Turkey ?
Thanks a lot for your answers!

[pilot_a]

Has anyone got dates for the sim screening? I passed the Mollymawk in December but haven’t heard anything.

[ljop]

Has anyone got dates for the sim screening? I passed the Mollymawk in December but haven’t heard anything.
Hey there. I haven't heard anything from there, yet. Still waiting

[OldDreamer]

Are you allowed to use a calculator?

[r0zvram]

Are you allowed to use a calculator?
No you are not.

[r0zvram]

Has anyone got dates for the sim screening? I passed the Mollymawk in December but haven’t heard anything.
I'am expecting a simdate anytime soon.

[pilotbekesi]

Good luck on the sim guys. Im doing mollymawk resit on the 14th

[OldDreamer]

How long do we have for each test subject? For those who already sat the exams, do you feel the time given is enough?



And are you allowed to take notes during the aptitude tests? Specially the time sharing one?

[ljop]

Good luck on the sim guys. Im doing mollymawk resit on the 14th

Good luck to you too ! Let us know the outcome

[ljop]

How long do we have for each test subject? For those who already sat the exams, do you feel the time given is enough?



And are you allowed to take notes during the aptitude tests? Specially the time sharing one?

You need to check the times of each test in Mollymawk instructions. But sure, if you practice enough, time is more than ok.
Yes, you are allowed to take notes during any test. You will have paper and pen. Calculator are not allowed.

[OldDreamer]

Guys,

I am really desperate here. Are there any tricks for the time sharing test? Specially for the number sequence, it's bloody difficult. I have seen some videos online and the person hears the firs number and already knows what to insert? In the real test are the sequences always the same? I really didn't want to memorise them but it sounds impossible to achieve the 3800 points alleged as the cutting line without memorising it. Every time I take a few seconds to take a note of the sequence numbers I let the instruments go red then I give a glance to the paper to solve the sequence and there goes another few seconds on the instrument. I am really sad as I have done about 10 tests and I can't go over 2700. In the Mollymawk website they say that after 5 attempts you really are not getting any better from that point...

[ljop]

Guys,

I am really desperate here. Are there any tricks for the time sharing test? Specially for the number sequence, it's bloody difficult. I have seen some videos online and the person hears the firs number and already knows what to insert? In the real test are the sequences always the same? I really didn't want to memorise them but it sounds impossible to achieve the 3800 points alleged as the cutting line without memorising it. Every time I take a few seconds to take a note of the sequence numbers I let the instruments go red then I give a glance to the paper to solve the sequence and there goes another few seconds on the instrument. I am really sad as I have done about 10 tests and I can't go over 2700. In the Mollymawk website they say that after 5 attempts you really are not getting any better from that point...

Hey man,

So, I didn't want to say anything when you talk about taking notes, because each person has it ways to do it, but the thing is you can't take notes because you will loose time. You are supouse to relied in your acoustical memory (read Mollymawk instructions). Is not about memorize...sure if you practice so many times, eventually you will know the answers, but is not about that...is about to trust your acoustical memory. You need to pay atention to the acoustical instruction, reason why navigation and the instrument shouldn't consume (or consume very few) resources of your brain.
Think about this as in your IFR training..... if you are using your brain for flying the basic stuff (fly the airplane straight) you can't calculate any radial interception instructions.... flying the aircraft straight is something you are able to do without thinking...then you can work the IFR instructions and readback.
Navigate and click on instruments shouldn't take to much of your resources, because you will need them to answer the acoustical instrucctions. You need to complete at leaste 100 acoustical task with very few mistakes to be on the numbers requires. If you are doing less than 100, then you are loosing time (as for instance taking notes).

Hope it helps.
Best regards

[Mlambin]

Hey man,

So, I didn't want to say anything when you talk about taking notes, because each person has it ways to do it, but the thing is you can't take notes because you will loose time. You are supouse to relied in your acoustical memory (read Mollymawk instructions). Is not about memorize...sure if you practice so many times, eventually you will know the answers, but is not about that...is about to trust your acoustical memory. You need to pay atention to the acoustical instruction, reason why navigation and the instrument shouldn't consume (or consume very few) resources of your brain.
Think about this as in your IFR training..... if you are using your brain for flying the basic stuff (fly the airplane straight) you can't calculate any radial interception instructions.... flying the aircraft straight is something you are able to do without thinking...then you can work the IFR instructions and readback.
Navigate and click on instruments shouldn't take to much of your resources, because you will need them to answer the acoustical instrucctions. You need to complete at leaste 100 acoustical task with very few mistakes to be on the numbers requires. If you are doing less than 100, then you are loosing time (as for instance taking notes).

Hope it helps.
Best regards

Well said !

I truly believe that if you need to take note you will never succeed the Mollymawk. I might be wrong and would be pleased to be proved wrong. I was scoring up to 5000 points during training and from the very first test I never thought about using anything else than my memory.

[ljop]

Well said !

I truly believe that if you need to take note you will never succeed the Mollymawk. I might be wrong and would be pleased to be proved wrong. I was scoring up to 5000 points during training and from the very first test I never thought about using anything else than my memory.

Hey man, are you still waiting for your TR to begin? I hope you're not!

[OldDreamer]

Well said !

I truly believe that if you need to take note you will never succeed the Mollymawk. I might be wrong and would be pleased to be proved wrong. I was scoring up to 5000 points during training and from the very first test I never thought about using anything else than my memory.

Wow 5000 points, that’s amazing. Sometimes I honestly think I’m not smart enough for this thing :(. Anyways I followed your advise and pushed myself to do it withouT notes and indeed my score is improving and I have just reached 3600 although I can’t avoid to think that part of this success is because I’m memorising the sequences involuntarily and I’m afraid that in the real exam it won’t be the same numbers. I’m doin feirou well on the Maze game and struggling a bit with the working memory, but my performance in all is improving, and I can definitely say that the statement in the web site, that says after 5 attempts you are unlikely to improve, to be quite incorrect.

[jacke_95]

Hello Guy!

I am also waiting for the sim, passed the molly December 19th. Anyone received any invitations yet that had it around the same period?

Best regards,

[jacke_95]

Today I received email regarding the simulator, invitation for the screening on the 23rd of January. I Passed the Mollymawk on the 19th Of December. So check your inbox!

Best wishes!
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[ljop]

Today I received email regarding the simulator, invitation for the screening on the 23rd of January. I Passed the Mollymawk on the 19th Of December. So check your inbox!

Best wishes!
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Hey Man! Thanks for sharing. I'm still waiting, altought I'm from the group of DEC 24. All the best for the SIM.

Regards

[r0zvram]

Wow 5000 points, that’s amazing. Sometimes I honestly think I’m not smart enough for this thing :(. Anyways I followed your advise and pushed myself to do it withouT notes and indeed my score is improving and I have just reached 3600 although I can’t avoid to think that part of this success is because I’m memorising the sequences involuntarily and I’m afraid that in the real exam it won’t be the same numbers. I’m doin feirou well on the Maze game and struggling a bit with the working memory, but my performance in all is improving, and I can definitely say that the statement in the web site, that says after 5 attempts you are unlikely to improve, to be quite incorrect.

The real exam is different from the one you train at home. Expect different numbers, other accents and numbers with 5 digits.

[vatir]

Does anyone have any tips for "Working Memory" section?

[Mlambin]

Hey man, are you still waiting for your TR to begin? I hope you're not!

Hopefully not, almost a year employed now.
Thanks for asking !

[ljop]

Hopefully not, almost a year employed now.
Thanks for asking !
Awesome man, congrats! all the best

[jacke_95]

Hello Guys!

Is there anyone who knows a good place for some B737NG Sim Prep?
Any help is appreciated!

Best Regards!

[Amidoo]

Hello Guys!

Is there anyone who knows a good place for some B737NG Sim Prep?
Any help is appreciated!

Best Regards!

I would start with your MCC provider if it was on the 737. I personnally booked a session with the cheapest and closest 737 sim I could find. You can even practice on your computer if you're well equiped. The actual sim is a full motion and easier to fly than most sim I've been in.

I wouldn't sweat it though, assesement is quite easy and straight forward, exactly as in the brief minus scenario 3, Captain and FO were really nice.

Good luck !

[NewUsername]

I did the english test at the beginning of November but then no answers or feedback yet.
I don't understand if they provide it only in positive case or also in negative case.

Same here. Passed the English test at the end of November and still no reply. Not sure if my test even passed through as there were no Exit button at the end of the test, had to use a key combination on a keyboard to close it.

[r0zvram]

Same here. Passed the English test at the end of November and still no reply. Not sure if my test even passed through as there were no Exit button at the end of the test, had to use a key combination on a keyboard to close it.

That's long. It takes iTep up to 5 working days to provide a score. You can't check your score online since this testcenter won't provide it online. If you want to know your score you need to get in contact with the testcenter. In this case it's SXS. You can write them an e-mail or give them a phone call.

Goodluck

[NewUsername]

That's long. It takes iTep up to 5 working days to provide a score. You can't check your score online since this testcenter won't provide it online. If you want to know your score you need to get in contact with the testcenter. In this case it's SXS. You can write them an e-mail or give them a phone call.

Goodluck


Thanks for the info. I already wrote them an email more than a month ago but no reply. Will see, I blame new year holidays for this.

[pilot_a]

Today I received email regarding the simulator, invitation for the screening on the 23rd of January. I Passed the Mollymawk on the 19th Of December. So check your inbox!

Best wishes!
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Weird, I passed the Mollymawk before that date and still no invitation. The person I spoke to earlier seems to be out of office..

[Pilotman14]

I have my mollymawk test coming up next week but I have not heard anything about accommodation, i have tried emailing hr about this but no replies from them, is anybody in the same situation?

[youngretired]

I have my mollymawk test coming up next week but I have not heard anything about accommodation, i have tried emailing hr about this but no replies from them, is anybody in the same situation?

is that mep program or direct entry f/o?

idk about mep candidates but there’s no accommodation for f/o afaik.

[Pilotman14]

is that mep program or direct entry f/o?

idk about mep candidates but there’s no accommodation for f/o afaik.

It's for the direct entry f/o, as in the email they originally sent it said, If you do not use sun Express flights please inform me about your travel details so I can send detailed transportation and hotel information.

[Amidoo]

It's for the direct entry f/o, as in the email they originally sent it said, If you do not use sun Express flights please inform me about your travel details so I can send detailed transportation and hotel information.

I would give them a call tomorrow, my friend has his Mollymawk on the 13th and received his travel details a while ago.

[WhereisMolly]

Got the Mollymok test later, so for Spatial Awareness I have to complete the 12 rounds in how long with how many errors?

Thanks.

[Pilotman14]

Got the Mollymok test later, so for Spatial Awareness I have to complete the 12 rounds in how long with how many errors?

Thanks.
I think 180 seconds and less than 10 errors, but I may be wrong

[WhereisMolly]

urgh, i am at like 250 seconds and 50 errors, am way off! any hints?

[OldDreamer]

Not so good news, I suppose. I have just received an email from a recruiting agency saying this

"This is an email to inform you that we just received an update from SunExpress that their vacancies are not open anymore. This means that they will not be able to give a start date at the moment. If you are still interested to proceed you can continue with the application if there will be new recruitment within 6 months"

[Amidoo]

Not so good news, I suppose. I have just received an email from a recruiting agency saying this

"This is an email to inform you that we just received an update from SunExpress that their vacancies are not open anymore. This means that they will not be able to give a start date at the moment. If you are still interested to proceed you can continue with the application if there will be new recruitment within 6 months"

Can I ask you which agency ?

[BeyonceWheels]

Hi there,

I am a new pilot from flight school and I am doing some study for this assessment later this month and my goodness, its not easy, I am well off on the scored on the Mollymawk test and it seems failure rate is high :(.

Has anyone got any hints on how to nail it over next few weeks.

Many thanks,

Beyonce

[vatir]

How do you know what the score needs to be? I don't even know that :ugh:

[Pilotman14]

How do you know what the score needs to be? I don't even know that :ugh:

There is a document further up this thread. I don't know how accurate it is but I am using it as a guideline

[BeyonceWheels]

This is what I am told:

Time sharing:
4000 is the limit score to pass corresponding to 25% (total efficiency). Aim: 4500-5000

Workin Memory:
800seconds and 5 errors is the limit correspoding to 25% (speed & accuracy) Aim: 770 sec and 1-2 errors at home.

Spatial Orientation:
170sec and 10 errors is the limit correspoding to 25% (speed & accuracy) Aim: 150 sec and 3-4 errors at home.

[ljop]

This is what I am told:

Time sharing:
4000 is the limit score to pass corresponding to 25% (total efficiency). Aim: 4500-5000

Workin Memory:
800seconds and 5 errors is the limit correspoding to 25% (speed & accuracy) Aim: 770 sec and 1-2 errors at home.

Spatial Orientation:
170sec and 10 errors is the limit correspoding to 25% (speed & accuracy) Aim: 150 sec and 3-4 errors at home.


This numbers are just reference, since the real results will be compared with the results of other candidates with your same age +/- 5 years, and you need to be over the 25% of best scores. Since that number is variable depending on your age, this is just a reference, however:

Time sharing: 3900
Workin Memory: 800 with 5 mistakes
Spatial Orientation: 180 sec with 10 mistakes

If you are below this numbers, you are in trouble.... my recomendation, try to be as high as possible of this passmark to be safe.

[BeyonceWheels]

Thanks, I am around 190 seconds and 40 mistakes, how can I get this down? I only get the red screen say 10 times so the errors must also be for not going the quicker way?

[pilotbekesi]

I think I did slightly below 180 on my first sit and I had 11 points on speed, which is well below the required 25. ( Im 29 y/o)

I've been to the 130s in my practices this time. (averaging below 5 errors)

Working memory - doing ~760-770sec 1-2 errors in practices.. ( Just did a 753-1 today). With good consistency which was a major problem before.
I am just sharing because I never thought it was possible to reach something like this after trying it the first time.

I find it very misleading that on the official website it says you don't get much better with more practice. I've been doing it every day for the past 2-3 weeks, and the numbers don't lie..

I'm doing retest next week,, will let you know the outcome

[r0zvram]

Does anyone have a sim session also on the 2nd of February?

[BeyonceWheels]

Good luck, got to get the Molly test first,how long does the molly take etc, what is the format etc? What do you need to bring, thanks, B.

[pilotbekesi]

Didn't pass...I messed up the working memory.
I still don't know what went wrong. I was doing so well after so much preparation, I was fairly confident, then just couldn't do it there. I was surprised since I haven't had a problem preforming during exams or tests.
I still believe with enough preparation this whole molly is not that difficult.
I wish you guys best of luck!
I am looking forward for my futures endeavors with other airlines!

[vatir]

Sorry to hear that.
what result did you get for working memory?

[JuliusCaesar]

Not so good news, I suppose. I have just received an email from a recruiting agency saying this

"This is an email to inform you that we just received an update from SunExpress that their vacancies are not open anymore. This means that they will not be able to give a start date at the moment. If you are still interested to proceed you can continue with the application if there will be new recruitment within 6 months"
Has anybody else recieved anything like this lately?

Would just like to know if it's daft waiting for a reply from Sun Express, or if there still is a chance.

cheers Mates

[Pilotman14]

Has anybody else recieved anything like this lately?

Would just like to know if it's daft waiting for a reply from Sun Express, or if there still is a chance.

cheers Mates

I just passed the mollymawk a few days ago and have already been booked in for the sim assessment. So I have a feeling they are creating a sort of holding pool until the Max returns.

[BeyonceWheels]

The working memory game, okay on the other two games but just starting this one, first attempt 1550 time and 50 errors, urgh. Not sure I have the rules correct is the below correct, thanks?There are four images displayed in the middle of the screen. You are supposed to select one of the four images based on a set of rules.

Do not click on the image you just heard.

Do not click on the image you just saw in the green box before it changed (ie PC go).

Do not click on the image depicted in the red box.

If none of the rules above are violated, click on the image depicted in the green box. Otherwise click on any other image that does not violates the rules.

[FlyHighh]

Affirm. Really struggling to hit the targets with the working memory. The other two I'm having no issues with. Anyone have any tips? I've tried saying out loud the shape i've heard, seen previously and in the red box but it takes too long. If I go purely on memory I make too many mistakes although it is faster. I suppose it's just a matter of practise, or I have a terrible memory and need a new brain. Anyone know where to get one of those? :ugh:

[Vaero]

I'm going to resit the Mollymawk soon again. Had to delay it because of some personal reasons. Just wanted to know if we had to repeat ALL the subjects, or just the one's failed? I failed one of them last time (bummer, I know) so if I could save on the 150 euro, it would be nice.

[youngretired]

I'm going to resit the Mollymawk soon again. Had to delay it because of some personal reasons. Just wanted to know if we had to repeat ALL the subjects, or just the one's failed? I failed one of them last time (bummer, I know) so if I could save on the 150 euro, it would be nice.
just failed ones.

[BeyonceWheels]

Hi, got the Mollymawk this week, all okay on them apart from the memory game with the 4 rules cant seem to get below 800 and 20 errors and it should be 790 and 5 errors, any hints, I must be making some basic mistakes, is there a pattern how do you get faster etc, thanks!

[youngretired]

Hi, got the Mollymawk this week, all okay on them apart from the memory game with the 4 rules cant seem to get below 800 and 20 errors and it should be 790 and 5 errors, any hints, I must be making some basic mistakes, is there a pattern how do you get faster etc, thanks!
Keep the mouse cursor on the last item you click. If you clicked the correct one, it usually tends to be the same one to click for the next couple rounds. Your forbidden picture will change every 4/5 rounds and if you are not anticipating it’s change, you might think you are clicking the correct one but it will change just before you click and it will be the wrong one. You need to keep a rhythm to finish earlier than 800 secs.

[OldDreamer]

Has anyone got a Sim assessment booked on the past few days? I passed Mollymawk but I am unsure about the rest of the process as I was informed they had no vacancies anymore.

[P1lotx]

Is there anyone here that has been on the interview and what to expect?

[Vaero]

Is there anyone here that has been on the interview and what to expect?

Is the recruitment still going on?

[youngretired]

Is the recruitment still going on?
nope, it's not.

[youngretired]

Is there anyone here that has been on the interview and what to expect?
I was. Expect "line oriented questions" if your profile is attractive to them. If you have no idea what they talking about during your interview, you may start to think where you should try next. And it's a big mystery what's attractive to them. Your cv, training background, logbook, self presentation etc. all represents it and they require a nice one. Not too generic, not extreme I suppose.