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falconeasydriver
8th Dec 2017, 15:07
*Rumour*

Heard from an EK mate yesterday that the freighter experiment is being ended, by this I’m assuming the contract in its present form.
No idea how true or otherwise, but he’s certain it’s on the cards.
Just a heads up to all still trapped in sand town.

nakbin330
9th Dec 2017, 08:24
I heard this too. Time will tell ...

Jumeirah James
9th Dec 2017, 08:53
And EK have offered Fedex their 777 freighters.

SOPS
9th Dec 2017, 09:15
If true, will be interesting to see the reaction from those that went on the contract to enable them to "commute".

The Outlaw
9th Dec 2017, 11:01
Rule 1: Never believe a word EK says, it all eventually turns to BS sooner or later.

Rule 2: See Rule 1.

There is about 18 years of proof to support that statement here in PPRUNE.

It helps to keep a resignation letter ready in your flight bag so that all you have to do is fill in the date, trust me it puts everything into perspective!

I hope the 777 Freighter's are going to Fed-Ex...they'll need pilots and it's a good company to work for based in a nice country!

You rock
9th Dec 2017, 14:27
Was on the freighter not that long ago in ams. Dispatcher said we won't be seeing much more of you shortly.

I said how do you mean. Response airport authority won't provide any more slots and something along the lines we will only have 2 flights into ams for the freighter and things moving too Germany. Who knows

And from a mate on the freighter a few weeks ago - "they are looking to expand freighter contract next year.............."
:ugh:

ironbutt57
10th Dec 2017, 05:59
go home and ask your gardener, or in your case, maybe the transport drivers..they seem to know everything that goes on around here, most likely there as well...

what_goes_up
11th Dec 2017, 09:50
I hope the 777 Freighter's are going to Fed-Ex...they'll need pilots and it's a good company to work for based in a nice country!
Do they really have bases outside the US?:hmm:

Airbubba
11th Dec 2017, 18:45
Do they really have bases outside the US?:hmm:

Yep, CGN and HKG.

Pay scales and more here on sister forum APC:

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/cargo/fedex_express

Since they have ALPA CBA work rules with trip rigs, duty rigs and the like, they get paid for more hours than they fly on long haul trips.

Like me, those FedEx pilots wished they worked at EK but they could never pass the checkrides or afford the cut in pay. ;)

nolimitholdem
12th Dec 2017, 15:57
You're a bit deluded to think there's a single non-American pilot working at EK longing to work in your banjo-pickin' paradise. Not everyone is as thrilled to get an IRS reach-around as you apparently are.

Don't you have some sexual predator or other to vote for? President, senator, take your pick, either party...lol

Airbubba
12th Dec 2017, 18:16
Don't you have some sexual predator or other to vote for? President, senator, take your pick, either party...lol

And let me guess, you've got nothing bad to say about that despot that rules Dubai, right? :D

I didn't think so. ;)

Sorry Dog
12th Dec 2017, 21:02
Don't you have some sexual predator or other to vote for? President, senator, take your pick, either party...lol

speaking of delusion...you don't really think the U.S. has a monopoly on those kinds do you??

thatwasclose
13th Dec 2017, 01:57
Nolimitholdem ,
Pretty sure you are a bit deluded on that statement !

nolimitholdem
13th Dec 2017, 02:45
And let me guess, you've got nothing bad to say about that despot that rules Dubai, right? :D

I didn't think so. ;)

Actually, I extracted what I wanted from Dubai - a ****-ton of money - and left. Nothing great to say about the leadership there. But the people there don't get to elect their leader.

What's your excuse for YOUR despot, Bubba? lol

And yeah, I guess if you're from a country with no prospects the US could look ok. Which failing EASA member state are you from, Desert snake?

ruserious
13th Dec 2017, 06:25
Guys, can we stop this bitch and quote fest, its got a bit beyond the pale

nolimitholdem
13th Dec 2017, 07:20
Ahhh you're no fun! :p

So any word on whether the freighter contract has been killed or not? That would be one short lifespan if it has....

RK Blue sky
13th Dec 2017, 13:26
No limit you seem to forget or you never knew that Americans have to pay taxes to the IRS no matter where they live and work. I know the US is one of the few countries in the world to do that but if your going to pay taxes anyway you might as well live and of course work in the US for a Major.
You will work less and make more money than banging away for EK. It goes without saying you will be treated better too.
I’m starting to believe that the Banjo picking pilots that don’t want to go back have some other underlying issues. Some of those issues might be perfectly legitimate like age or they don’t want to fly a narrowbody but if I get hired soon I’ll be a captain there in under 4 years. Quicker than at Emirates.
Right now there is no airline in the EU that can compete with a US Major pilot contract so I can imagine nearly every pilot in the world wanting to fly for the Majors or at least have a contract like them.

Airbubba
13th Dec 2017, 15:48
Right now there is no airline in the EU that can compete with a US Major pilot contract so I can imagine nearly every pilot in the world wanting to fly for the Majors or at least have a contract like them.

Yep, our friends from the Great White North are always complaining about how terrible America is and how hard it is to get a green card. ;)

Kinda reminds me of the King Air pilot who says he wouldn't work for the airlines because he doesn't want to be anybody's copilot. :)

my salami
13th Dec 2017, 16:34
Right now there is no airline in the EU that can compete with a US Major pilot contract so I can imagine nearly every pilot in the world wanting to fly for the Majors or at least have a contract like them.

I suggest you look at AF KLM LH before making such a statement...

MS

RK Blue sky
13th Dec 2017, 16:47
Yes there are some very respectable EU Airlines. Salami mention some and you would have to include BA and SAS in there as well but they are very few and far between. I believe when you compare those respectable EU Airlines with the US Majors the EU comes up just a little bit short. Still not a bad gig to work for but I would put my lot in with the Big 4 across the pond.
Besides the 5-6 respectable EU Airlines the rest aren’t worth two hoots. Ryan Air and Norwegian Air? Come on! They are Emirates of the North.

nolimitholdem
13th Dec 2017, 16:51
hi RK,

Yes, I'm quite aware that the IRS taxes worldwide income, and it isn't one of "a few" countries that do, it's one of only two - the other being Eritrea. That's some good company to be in there, mate. But it doesn't support an argument that lots of non-Americans at EK are dying to work in the US. If the US is home, sure, it's a no-brainer. For a non-native, the downside of the high wages would be...having to live in the US. Even my close American family and friends freely admit that it hasn't quite been Made Great Again yet. :E

I do clearly recall a massive influx of Americans into the ME not that many years ago, due to the almost comically poor conditions at the regionals in the US. I was just poking fun at poor little Bubba's short memory. Trying to put down EK wages when a few years ago his countrymen were begging to join en masse is kinda funny. It's good for everyone that the pendulum is swinging the other way now.

I'm not entirely sure why Bubba trolls the ME forums. Perhaps his own failure/rejection still stings? Are there non-Americans who hang out in the US forums doing the same? I dunno.

Apologies for the thread drift. I did attempt to steer it back to to the EK freighter question but no bites...?

GMC1500
26th Dec 2017, 12:04
man that airbubba is one bitter individual.

fatbus
26th Dec 2017, 21:39
Freighter is alive and well! Maybe adding some dedicated crew next year Apr 2018.