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ShotOne
20th Nov 2017, 18:31
What became of the Jaguar simulator when the fleet was sold off? Is there one running in private hands now?
sharpend
21st Nov 2017, 10:55
Good question.
ian16th
21st Nov 2017, 12:37
Didn't Equador buy Jaguars?
They might have a sim.
NutLoose
21st Nov 2017, 13:17
Or India or Oman, I seem to remember one for sale in bits.... What happened to the plastic jags?
Megaton
22nd Nov 2017, 08:04
What happened to the plastic jags?
And the dinosaurs?
NutLoose
22nd Nov 2017, 08:53
The RAF had plastic Jags they used to wheel around airshows and a Tornado, similar to the Chinook they have now and the Boeing that used to be a food Mexican? outlet the RAF bought secondhand.
We redid the Tornado in my Civi past so it could carry stores, it required the wings splitting, the internal scaffolding planks removing and a steel frame replacing them.
sunnybunny
22nd Nov 2017, 08:57
Don't know if it's still there but an industrial unit in Dudley used to hold the promotional (plastic?) aircraft they used for displays and recruiting. Used to see them being trundled off to an event on the back of a low loader.
NutLoose
22nd Nov 2017, 09:06
Found them
This was the Jag
RAF Fuselages and Jaguar Replica - Neat Vehicles (http://www.neatvehicles.com/raf-fuselages-and-jaguar-replica/)
this is the RAF's repurposed Uncle Ben's Mexican Indian and Chinese food outlet
Uncle Bens and RAF Altitude Unit - Neat Vehicles (http://www.neatvehicles.com/uncle-bens-and-raf-altitude-unit/)
Wander00
22nd Nov 2017, 09:25
Sort of an AEOp heaven.........but no pies
What became of the Nigerian AF Jag sim?
son of brommers
22nd Nov 2017, 11:45
What became of the Nigerian AF Jag sim?
It was offered to me FOC upon the provision of my bank details.........:suspect::suspect:
Alber Ratman
22nd Nov 2017, 12:02
https://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=256555&d=1508891345
https://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=257116&d=1511124694
I don't need a Sim, I get to play with a real one..
ShotOne
23rd Nov 2017, 19:22
Ah, very nice, ratman. Is that at Bentwaters? You might get a telling off if you fly it though!
Alber Ratman
24th Nov 2017, 00:15
Ah, very nice, ratman. Is that at Bentwaters? You might get a telling off if you fly it though!
Well it will simulate the beginning and end of a Sortie quite legally.. :ok:
Need a big shed for the map table....
FantomZorbin
24th Nov 2017, 07:52
There's a plastic Jag outside the front door of the Norfolk County Council offices ... though I doubt that many know what it is or why it's there!
goofer3
24th Nov 2017, 08:15
'Tis the ex Coltishall gate guardian;
https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive.cfm?storyid=63319DD6-1143-EC82-2E106AF2C0778128
NutLoose
24th Nov 2017, 09:01
And prior to that Bruggens I believe, that if I remember correctly was a composite of crashed bits nailed onto the Jag fuselage that was used by the Plumbers as a weapons loading training aid. NOT Plastic.
Edit:
Just read the link that confirms it.
On 20 in 1977 the Plumbers had a prototype Jaguar as a weapons loading training aid, it had a short nose gear door, different airbrakes, and cockpit instruments that would make a Hunter look sophisticated.
Davef68
24th Nov 2017, 10:08
What became of the Nigerian AF Jag sim?
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MATELO
24th Nov 2017, 10:13
I vaguely remember ..but didn't some comedian place an aircraft carrier from the game battleship on top of hill on the sim at Coltishall?
dragartist
24th Nov 2017, 10:27
Hi Nutty, how you doing?
Just noted the thread on plastic jags.
They were made by Specialised Mouldings in Huntingdon. My old boss (who was with me last night at RAeS lecture) helped them out. He certainly did the tonka undercarriage. It collapsed when towed for the first time at Farnborough ( may have been 1978) had a plastic barrel in the nose full of water.
They made several replicas. I worked there for a few months modifying the harrier ground running sim to add weapons pylons and test kit for training armourers. Put a vibrating motor in the seat pan to simulate an engine surge. That was fun with he girls in the office.
Alber Ratman
24th Nov 2017, 11:29
The plastic Jaguar outside the Norfolk Country Council offices is the second British prototype, S07. It certainly is not plastic.
Alber Ratman
24th Nov 2017, 11:31
Need a big shed for the map table....
Got a big empty airfield to play with it. No map room required. No solar panels in the way either. :E
NutLoose
24th Nov 2017, 13:42
I am fine Drag, :)
The "It's not a Jag, and we will not refer to it as a Jag, it's a simulated engine ground running rig at Halton" that looked like a Jag, felt like a Jag, was powered by a replica Adour and had a cockpit layout of a Jag..
That had a motor under the seat for vibration, on one of the courses when I was there, the motor burnt out and the guy doing the simulated run was so concentrating on what he was doing, he was trying to waft the smoke out of the way to read the gauges lol, before it was pointed out to the instructor it was possibly on fire.
Bruggen the map was on the wall? as they used to stick those big monsters (you could get for kids to put on the end of their pencils) down an unsuspecting valley for the unwary pilot.
sharpend
24th Nov 2017, 16:48
I vaguely remember ..but didn't some comedian place an aircraft carrier from the game battleship on top of hill on the sim at Coltishall?
I actually placed a rubber monster on the large scale model (in the Wye valley). The fans that kept the camera lights cool made the monster wave its arms. Frightened the life out of some young students :O
Herod
24th Nov 2017, 20:29
I never saw it personally, but I believe there was a very large rubber spider that straddled the runway on the Herc sim at Thorney. Break cloud at 200' and.....
paulyates52
11th Jun 2018, 17:25
I left Makurdi, Nigeria in 1990 and, as far as I know, the simulator is still in the building - never to be used again. The main frame computer (SEL 32/77) had stopped working (environment too dusty and hot) and the Intel computer driving the Image II had over heated. 2 years site work to no avail !!!
I seem to remember a Loch Ness monster on the moving-map conveyor belt in the Lightning sim at Gutersloh C.1974
thesimtech
12th Jun 2018, 15:59
If we found any large spiders in the sim building, we would capture them and let them loose on the weapons delivery model. It looked like a bad Hollywood movie at 420Kts & 500ft! I spent quite a few hours repainting the fields and replacing burnt out lamps on the sim at Coltishall
I never saw it personally, but I believe there was a very large rubber spider that straddled the runway on the Herc sim at Thorney. Break cloud at 200' and.....
I worked on a sim for a small fast jet trainer, and one of the test pilots told a story about finding real creepy crawlies on the map first thing on a Monday morning when the sim had been quiet all weekend. The software guys responsible for the "map" and terrain snuck a 100 foot replica down a valley somewhere which the test pilot then found on a low level exercise. He was impressed......
paulyates52
13th Jun 2018, 08:39
Didn't Equador buy Jaguars?
They might have a sim.
I did hear that Ecuador wanted to buy the Nigerian sim, but Link-Miles / could not give a quote for the move until they had seen the machine (which had a problem with the main-frame computer).
jagnut
17th Jun 2018, 10:58
One of the original model boards is on display as part of the Coltishall Heritage Exhibition housed within the Battle of Britain Hall at Badersfield, the old Colt married quarters, the building is the original 1940 church.
glad rag
17th Jun 2018, 11:42
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PS if you ever get the chance go listen to the recordings of his radio comments to the team when his POS car fails AGAIN...