Austrian Multi Role Helicopter requirement, Airbus left out

[chopper2004]

Last nights legislative election here in Austria sees Sebastian Kurz of the OVP tipped to be the new chancellor thus becoming the youngest ..leader around.


Anyhow there is a requirement here for 12 x multi role helos however Airbus feels a tad left out of the bidding process because of the ongoing dispute about Eurofighter procurement.

Austria?s rift with Airbus hampers helicopter acquisition | Jane's 360 (http://www.janes.com/article/73357/austria-s-rift-with-airbus-hampers-helicopter-acquisition)

Leonardo have offered the AW109M Trekker
Bell is offering the 429 MRH
Airbus supposedly offering the H135M and H145M

Any thoguhts?

cheers

[T28B]

Might the ongoing frustration with the Tiger be a factor? They appear to be choosing to upgrade/repair the Tiger, at great expense, and so perhaps are leery of another big buy?

[chopper2004]

Might the ongoing frustration with the Tiger be a factor? They appear to be choosing to upgrade/repair the Tiger, at great expense, and so perhaps are leery of another big buy?

Huh I’m talking about Austria not Australia lol!

[T28B]

I'll be having a word with whomever put decaf in the coffee maker. :uhoh: :O

[TBM-Legend]

Shades of USA. In Mississippi once. Waitress asks where I come because I talk funny! Australia is my prompt reply...I said "ever been there?"

Replied "isn't that where they made the movie "The Sound of Music?" .... I said no that's Austria...

Poor girl now confused [but cute]

[recceguy]

Sorry guys but I had to find back this one for some :

https://www.rt.com/news/402026-putin-us-relations-brics/

I thought that mistake was only when speaking - but I see that even in writing .... well, I'm speechless

[chopper2004]

The ball is started to roll with final negotiations and budget allocated

https://diepresse.com/home/innenpolitik/5554426/Heer-ruestet-Hubschrauber-auf

‘21 Alouette and ten Kiowa will be replaced by twelve light multipurpose helicopters, according to the ministry's plans. In addition, the Black Hawk fleet to be increased and bought to the existing nine Black Hawks three more, so as to achieve the international standard scale size of twelve helicopters.’

[Martin the Martian]

Just remember- there are no kangaroos in Austria.

[FlightlessParrot]

Just remember- there are no kangaroos in Austria.
You will make the Schoenbrunn Tiergarten sad: https://www.zoovienna.at/tiere/saeugetiere/bennettkanguru/

[chopper2004]

Well in my other neck of the woods yesterday, pair of EMS Bell 429 from Swiss Air Zermatt, (First EMS 429 European Customer back in 2013) Slovak Air Transport Europe turned up at LOAV, with Heli-Austria Flight Academy hosting. Also present was the United States Ambassador to Vienna.

https://web.helirescue.at/bundesheer/bell-praesentiert-moegliches-nachfolgermodell-der-alouette-iii-des-bundesheeres/?fbclid=IwAR2IOs8eKEuuz44dQIAEkNWnciaRGoVsGpftD3GL_zVKH-Owy3JAQE0x7zQ

Purpose of the fly in was Marketing Sales pitch to Bundesheer for the Bell 429 as Alouette III and OH-58C Kiowa. With the other ongoing debate of the Bundesheer selling giving their Typhoons to Indonesia Due to gripes and issues with Airbus...and operational capability et al...Airbus offering of the H145M could have some affect on decision.

Cheers

[NutLoose]

Shades of USA. In Mississippi once. Waitress asks where I come because I talk funny! Australia is my prompt reply...I said "ever been there?"

Replied "isn't that where they made the movie "The Sound of Music?" .... I said no that's Austria...

Poor girl now confused [but cute]


You would have thought the corks dangling around your hat brim would have given it away.. :E

[chopper2004]

Bundesheer have selected AW169M as I suspected while back....

https://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=10583

cheers

[minigundiplomat]

You would have thought the corks dangling around your hat brim would have given it away..

That or the enchanting aroma of Vegemite and VB (both of the main food groups).

[TBM-Legend]

That or the enchanting aroma of Vegemite and VB (both of the main food groups).
Yea mate, I ordered Vegemite sanga and a stubbie of VB and a Four and Twenty pie...

[Baldeep Inminj]

H135 cabin too small- if they need to move people etc it’s not brilliant. H145 - different matter entirely - carries up to 11, great visibility, and cheap as chips. I have operated both. Love flying either one, but the 145 is miles more useful.
However, the B429 is a class apart. Solid, dependable and it’s a Bell - it will last forever - like a flying Land Rover. The plastic Airbus’ just feel like they will break, although generally they don’t.

[chopper2004]

Also w.r.t Bundesheer new platform, today they received the first of three UH-60M from Alabama based Ace Aeronautics LLC .

(photos courtesy of Bundesheer)


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With Ace Aeros unique cockpit it is expected that the remaining 2 will be delivered by 2022.

Anyhow this airframe is at Fliegerhorst Brumowski North West of Vienna undergoing tests .

cheers

[chopper2004]

Today the first AW169M LUH was handed over to Bundesheer , (whole deal in co-operation with the Italian MoD, as they provide some of the initial training and support) .


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/f11c6785_c373_4bb5_9f0f_32293fc04e6d_ead9f5ba7ec47c5630e3805 fe4903fc84eb0cf87.jpeg