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Langata
5th Oct 2017, 03:58
I know there was another thread elsewhere on this, however it's several years old now and both companies have since gone through changes. Can anyone shed some light on the pros/cons of choosing either at the moment?

Many thanks.

monviso
8th Oct 2017, 16:54
Parc is not owned by CAE right now?

SANDPITHOLDING
10th Oct 2017, 05:25
As far as I know CAE and Rishworth are two different companies, perhaps you are referring to the new Resource Group that includes Contractair.

I heard that Sigma is not as good as before, I am using brookfield and so far they are OK.
Certainly it would be nice if some other pilots can share and update their experiences with the most known agencies, quite often the same airline has up to 3 agencies and joining one or another it makes a big difference about the terms and the follow up during the duration of the contract.

Hibernia
12th Oct 2017, 14:13
These so-called recruiting agencies effectively operate as a cartel, which collude and conspire to keep our terms and conditions permanently suppressed. They profit handsomely through the exploitation of our professional licences and experience, gained over decades in many cases and always at great expense and personal sacrifice.

They act as unqualified middle men between us and our employers. Not only this, but they seek to indemnify themselves against what is, in fact, their responsibility for taxation, social and pension obligations by insisting that you, the pilot asset, establish bogus corporate structures, many of which are in flagrant disregard of the fiduciary responsibilities of company directors, or push you into so-called "umbrella companies" who charge you an exhorbidant fee in the ludicrous attempt to legitimise your relationship with the tax office. Why on earth do we all put up with it?

Ask what you think you're worth, after the family and personal sacrifice that goes into getting qualified. The vast sums on training costs. The years of lost income whilst you seek initial employment. Putting your licence and livelihood on the line three times annually till you retire with no pension provided. What's all that worth to you and your families? When's the last time you even met an agency representative face to face? Or saw one in the simulator or the AME doctors office. Ever wondered why the same minimal amounts are on offer, year after year regardless of aircraft type or experience, despite this being the time of greatest experienced pilot shortage of anytime in the history of aviation?

I advise all pilots to seek your own relationship with any prospective employers. If you're handcuffed into using an agency with absolutely no alternative, at least use one of the precious few respectable ones, and in EVERY case, ask them for a statement in writing of what monthly fee they receive for delivering you, a qualified licensed professional, to the door of an airline who should be doing it themselves. You will be staggered to learn how much they suck out of you for doing, in essence, nothing. This is YOUR money. If you willingly give it away to these aviation leaches, more fool you.

These agencies take a huge percentage for the length of your contract in return for doing nothing.

Nice work if you can get it.

This money by rights is yours. If these recruitment agency parasites were compelled to reveal how much they're making out of us, several things would happen. Our salaries would rise, our terms and conditions would improve, and we deluded trusting idiots that have been thinking these recruiting agencies have been acting in our best interests all these years, would observe with pleasure these wicked industrial tapeworms, a cancer on our profession, slowly vanish from the earth.

peterporker
12th Oct 2017, 22:00
I was working for TransAsia Airways on contract with Rishworth when TransAsia went out of business last November. I have still not been paid any salary and I was forced to buy my own airline travel to my home country even though repatriation airline fees are specified in my contract.
Rishworth continues to hold one month salary that they kept in form of a bond from TransAsia for each of us expat pilots and they refuse to release this money to us even after repeated requests from us. Do not trust this agency.

gearlever
13th Oct 2017, 15:33
....a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.

peterporker
13th Oct 2017, 23:05
After working as an expatriate pilot for 10 years I chose to go home and work in my own country instead of continuing to work for these parasites. My bad experience was with rishworth but I doubt the other agencies are any different. I did see a steady decline In the terms and conditions in my 10 years of agency work. Definitely things such as notice period and penalties for ending the contracts have become very one sided and not in favor of the pilot. I chose to remove myself from the cycle.