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weatherdude
30th Sep 2017, 09:55
German tabloid including a TV cook's tweet calling it an "emergency landing" at GWT

Unfall auf Sylt - Air-Berlin-Flieger schießt über Landebahn hinaus - Düsseldorf - Bild.de (http://www.bild.de/regional/duesseldorf/flugzeugunglueck/air-berlin-flugzeug-schiesst-ueber-landebahn-53383426.bild.html)

Metars:

https://de.flightaware.com/resources/airport/EDXW/weather

douglasheld
30th Sep 2017, 09:59
That's the current metar I believe... not the accident time.
(Although current has 200 ft OVC, did catch my eye!)

weatherdude
30th Sep 2017, 10:04
Just scroll down a little bit.

lederhosen
30th Sep 2017, 10:24
Its possible that a landing would have been on 32 (with significant tailwind), as the non precision approach on 14 has a minimum well above the reported cloud base. The runway is 2100 metres, so not excessively long particularly if you are tankering fuel, which we used to do, although my memory may be failing as it is a long time ago since I was last there. Combine a tricky approach with the distractions of the Air Berlin insolvency and maybe this is not such a big surprise.

wiedehopf
30th Sep 2017, 10:25
accident some time around or before 8:20 local time according to the newspaper that is 0620Z
relevant metars:

EDXW 300620Z 14011KT 1200 R14/P2000N RA BR OVC002 15/14 Q1015
EDXW 300550Z 14011KT 1800 BR OVC003 15/14 Q1015

Bigpants
30th Sep 2017, 10:26
Many years back Lufthansa did something similar at Warsaw, sadly a few casualties.

weatherdude
30th Sep 2017, 10:39
Yes, it overran 32 with 11KT tailwind.

RVF750
30th Sep 2017, 11:13
Bit tight landing in those conditions, you really do have to plant the old girl and give it a pile of reverse to ensure you slow down...no time for gentle caress... Do you get that level of choice in an A32x?

Glad it ended up ok, with all safe and a bit of mud to clean off the gear legs....

Centaurus
30th Sep 2017, 11:58
Is the company policy here to only use idle reverse due to noise abatement restrictions? By the time the crew realise that the aircraft is still at relatively high speed approaching the end of the runway, reverse is too late to be effective. Not saying this could have happened in this incident but handy for crews to remember this problem when forced to use idle reverse due noise restrictions.

handsome goafer
30th Sep 2017, 16:00
If I need full reverse i'll use it, what has happened to airmanship?

Doug E Style
30th Sep 2017, 16:17
A few back of a fag packet calculations shows that at MLW, even with a 11 kts up the chuff, they should have been able to stop in 2100m, in almost all runway conditions.

underfire
1st Oct 2017, 16:02
COR EDXW 300620Z 14011KT 1200 R14/P2000N RA BR OVC002 15/14 Q1015=

Only runway 32 features an ILS Cat I approach (OCH 199 feet AGL - with overcast cloud at 200 feet the only possible approach)

An Air Berlin Airbus A320-200, registration D-ABHO performing flight AB-6880 from Dusseldorf to Sylt (Germany) with 82 passengers and 5 crew, landed on Sylt Westerland's runway 32 at 08:19L (06:19Z) but overran the end of the runway and came to a stop about 100 meters/330 feet past the runway end with all gear on soft ground.

C2814/17 - ILS RWY 32 OUT OF SERVICE. 30 SEP 08:48 2017 UNTIL 30 SEP 23:59 2017. CREATED: 30 SEP 08:48 2017

C2812/17 - RWY 14/32 CLOSED FOR LANDING. TAKE OFF RWY 14 POSSIBLE. 30 SEP 09:00 2017 UNTIL 30 SEP 23:59 2017. CREATED: 30 SEP 08:42 2017