PDA

View Full Version : Blade prototype A340 first flight today


recceguy
26th Sep 2017, 15:04
With laminar profiles on both sides, a little bit more than the wing tips...

Good to see new projects taking off from time to time, with real research, something else than new software :

Le démonstrateur Blade a fait son premier vol - Air&Cosmos (http://www.air-cosmos.com/le-demonstrateur-blade-a-fait-son-premier-vol-100737)

OldLurker
26th Sep 2017, 15:08
Airbus press release (in English):
Airbus’ “BLADE” laminar flow wing demonstrator makes first flight (http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2017/09/airbus_-_blade_-laminar-flow-wing-demonstrator-makes-first-fligh.html)

recceguy
26th Sep 2017, 15:16
Thanks Old chap, I agree it reads better this way on pprune

Mad (Flt) Scientist
26th Sep 2017, 15:20
Not entirely clear if its the same outer wing on both sides, or two different ones?

FE Hoppy
26th Sep 2017, 16:24
EU funded?
Surely this is the sort of thing every airfare manufacturer is doing anyway? Looks like another ECO scam to me.

safetypee
26th Sep 2017, 16:47
MFS, “same on each side”; not necessarily so.

http://cleansky.eu/sites/default/files/inline-files/2.%20SFWA%20-%20BLADE%20project.pdf

Airbus to test New Laminar Wing on the A340 (http://compositesmanufacturingmagazine.com/2017/09/airbus-test-new-laminar-wing-a340/)

underfire
26th Sep 2017, 18:33
according to their slide, it appears there is a bit of a mod to one side vs the other...2 upper cover options, one has a continuous surface, the other has a joint...

SAAB manufactured one, GKN manufactured the other.

Looks like there is a mod to the tail section as well..

https://i.imgur.com/UKk3lxm.jpg

I am scratching my head a bit on the Port/Starboard labels on the diagram....

great location for a folding wing if one so desires!

CCA
27th Sep 2017, 16:30
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbus/Airbus-A340-311/4605253/L

Link to first flight pic

ImbracableCrunk
27th Sep 2017, 19:16
It's part of the Banal Acronym Démonstrateur project.

compressor stall
27th Sep 2017, 19:21
Looks like someone's bolted a c310 wing on the end.

pattern_is_full
28th Sep 2017, 04:05
My understanding (open to comment): both experimental wings have the same airfoil, but built different ways (with/without joint behind leading edge).

Test flights will determine if the jointed version is smooth enough to produce the same laminar flow.

I'm assuming the different construction methods have implications for manufacturing cost, maintenance cost, and of course performance.

The pods at the root and tip of the test wings carry observational/test equipment - they would not exist on production wings.

Piltdown Man
28th Sep 2017, 09:44
I do hope they test the effect of ice, bugs, salt and the like on these wings. Years ago I flew some marvellous gliders with really fantastic laminar flow wings. You could actually see and feel the performance gain. But the moment a few bugs stuck to the leading edge you fell out if the sky.

TURIN
30th Sep 2017, 09:52
Boeing use a suck/blow technique in their laminar flow control system on the 787-9.
It's only on the tail surfaces but there doesn't seem to be any problems so far.
Works well, lasts a long time.

underfire
30th Sep 2017, 12:55
both experimental wings have the same airfoil, but built different ways (with/without joint behind leading edge).

Yes, per the diagram in Post #7, there are 2 cover options. Probably a bit easier to manufacture in sections rather than a continuous piece.