Warrior down near Bankstown

[outlandishoutlanding]

Pilot, passenger walk away after light plane makes emergency landing in Sydney field - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-19/plane-makes-emergency-landing-in-sydney-field/8961368)

VH-BDB

[Capn Bloggs]

I doubt whether that'll buff out...

[Ixixly]

No buffing out for that, it's spare parts and the scrap heap for that old girl I'd dare say!

Good to see all escape relatively unscathed!

[VH-RME]

Basair....

[Alchemy101]

ATC recording at about 3 min 30, another aircraft spots and describes 11 min 57
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ysbk/YSBK-Twr-Sep-19-2017-0500Z.mp3

Some further images
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2VQU4Zt45Y

[gerry111]

BDB is/was an Archer.

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Flapless Approach?

Perhaps the damage might have been a little less had the flaps been deployed....or, did they get 'knocked' back up on impact..??

Cheers

[sms777]

The flap handle is a long stick located in the centre of the floor between the seats. I would say it was lowered back down to assist quick evacuation after impact. Not trying to protect the PF but that's what I would do if I wanted to get out quick.

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Thankyou '777', that's how it was many years ago when I last flew a PA.28, But I thought they may have gone 'electric' by now.

My comment was an 'observation' from the photo.

Cheers

[Ixixly]

He also may have retracted the flaps on touch down for better braking?

[StickWithTheTruth]

He also may have retracted the flaps on touch down for better braking?

Better braking? Do you mean with a tailwind?

[jonkster]

Better braking? Do you mean with a tailwind?

I would assume Ixixly meant retracting flap to increase load on landing gear and so assist braking action of the wheel brakes

[Ixixly]

Yup, that's exactly what I meant jonkster

[StickWithTheTruth]

I would assume Ixixly meant retracting flap to increase load on landing gear and so assist braking action of the wheel brakes

I've never actually heard of that.

I assume you mean to increase load on the wheels/tires to increase traction in order to avoid skidding, particularly on grass or similar non bitumen surfaces.

[andrewr]

Perhaps the damage might have been a little less had the flaps been deployed....or, did they get 'knocked' back up on impact..??

I suspect there are a few parts of that aircraft that weren't in that position before impact

[jonkster]

I've never actually heard of that.

I assume you mean to increase load on the wheels/tires to increase traction in order to avoid skidding, particularly on grass or similar non bitumen surfaces.

Probably better on hard surfaces actually but yes. A number of light aircraft have this technique mentioned in their POH

[Flying Binghi]

Flaps look negative to me. Do they have a Maule type setting...





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[YPJT]

Flaps look negative to me. Do they have a Maule type setting..
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No just three pre set stages of positive

[MagnumPI]

As no-one has said it yet...

well done to crew for putting it down and walking away! :D

[Capt Fathom]

And a reminder if involved in an incident or accident, not to say anything to anyone, regardless of how innocent it may seem. You need time to recover and gather your thoughts.

[Flying Binghi]

No just three pre set stages of positive

Then I'd guess looking at the angle of the flap to the wing i suspect the flap has been bent up by the black wall the aircraft has slid over. And the off side wing being torn off, and flaps being interconnected, likely had an effect.

A walk away landing..:ok:





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[Clare Prop]

Not the old PA28 "Jettison wings" button again ?

[KRUSTY 34]

Well done boys :ok:

[Pinky the pilot]

Not the old PA28 "Jettison wings" button again ?

Wasn't that a standard feature of the Piper Centurion? Or the Cessna Archer?:confused::E

[Flying Binghi]

Wasn't that a standard feature of the Piper Centurion? Or the Cessna Archer?:confused::E

Nah, yer thinking of the JATO equiped Mooney 172.. ;)





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