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JasonAirBourne
15th Aug 2017, 03:03
Hi guys,

I'm a recent CPL graduate based in Melbourne and I just wanted to know if anyone knew about any jobs for low hour CPLs like myself in Victoria.

I'm planning on doing a road trip up the east coast of Australia but wasn't sure if this was the best thing to do right now...

Or should I just continue to send out resumes by email for now??

If anyone has any suggestions please let me know!!

Cheers

Ia8825
15th Aug 2017, 11:26
First up I hope you have a flak jacket big enough to take a flight over Berlin in 1944 because I guarantee some fire is about to come your way.

As for an answer to your question, the only immediately obvious job would be instructing if you are really set in not moving, other jobs are very hard to find unless you want to head up to the NT, where they are only slightly easier to find.

Ixixly
15th Aug 2017, 12:25
Tell you the same thing I told the last bloke: "Woolworths"

Pilotette
15th Aug 2017, 12:42
Wrong time for up North but in the following months it may be worthwhile hitting up the operators down around Apollo Bay, Torquay way for the summer flying season. There are plenty of threads on here with advice to sift through when it comes to hunting for that first job. Good luck.

aussie1234
15th Aug 2017, 12:48
QANTAS has a Melbourne base. Try them.

pylet
15th Aug 2017, 12:48
Save some cash and make the pilgrimage north-west. Dealers choice how you get there - plenty of small airfields and operators either way you go. Unless you want to instruct or do useless skydiving flying don't waste your time in Victoria or up the East Coast. Maybe for your second job.

There are plenty of threads on this (because everyone has done it, or is about to) but I'll get you started because standby has me stuck at home.

Best bet is to arrive 'up north' in January. Any later might be too late. Find a town you like, settle in, find a job pulling beers, making lattes, stacking shelves, whatever. Drop by the operators from time to time to let them know you're still around.

Think Mt Isa, Tennant Creek, Katherine, Kakadu, Kununurra, Broome.

mattyj
16th Aug 2017, 03:35
Because it teaches you how to take off heavy and land light..many more times per flight hour than most pilots which is obviously a skill not required for an airline pilot

Ia8825
16th Aug 2017, 06:41
Why is skydiving useless?

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Not having done it I don't actually know what is involved, but I can't imagine it being useless

mikewil
16th Aug 2017, 07:28
Why is skydiving useless?



It's not useless, you just don't want thousands of hours doing it.


If you can use it to get over the 500 hour mark then it is a good way to get a start.

Shoulda_beena_tradie
16th Aug 2017, 08:32
It's not useless, you just don't want thousands of hours doing it.


If you can use it to get over the 500 hour mark then it is a good way to get a start.

Absolutely agree, I used it as my first job in between working a full-time job. Pay was $20 a load and worked with some undesirables. However, operating in class C dropping in between RPT meant being given a drop time by ATC and working backwards from departure to be on point, at height, on the minute, taught me the valuable lessons of time management and engine management.

Agreed though, not something you want to do forever!

Capt Fathom
16th Aug 2017, 10:31
However, operating in class C dropping in between RPT meant being given a drop time by ATC and working backwards from departure to be on point, at height, on the minute, taught me the valuable lessons of time management and engine management.

Being able to read a clock is important! :E

Tankengine
16th Aug 2017, 10:39
Because it teaches you how to take off heavy and land light..many more times per flight hour than most pilots which is obviously a skill not required for an airline pilot

Long haul airline pilots take off heavy and land light all the time! ;)

Ia8825
16th Aug 2017, 11:05
Yeah but generally you hope POB at start = POB on landing for airliners, for some reason throwing them out the side door is frowned upon no matter how deserved it may be

Ixixly
16th Aug 2017, 11:22
Folks, I'd suggest that ANY flying is useless if approached in the wrong way. Equally so any flying can be useful to a degree with the right mentality. If you get out there and set yourself new challenges each and every flight you'll be all the better for it, no matter what you're doing.

Ia8825
16th Aug 2017, 11:26
My philosophy for a 150 hour CPL holder is any flying would be useful. Mates want a cost sharing scenic flight? Do it. Someone needs an aircraft ferried somewhere? Do it. Same for things like sky diving and nearly any other flying you can get. If it builds those hours in your book then it's a good thing.

huffercart
17th Aug 2017, 10:44
I think it's important to visit the operators you wish to work for. Just firing emails out and sending resumes probably won't work. Be prepared to move to other side of the country if it means getting employed as a pilot.

huffercart
17th Aug 2017, 10:45
What ever you do, don't do P2F i.e. 'pay to fly'.

Duck Pilot
18th Aug 2017, 08:03
Only way to do it is get your CV up to scatch clearly outlining the high impact points on the front page - name, contact details, licence and ratings together with a simple break down of your hours. Second page, education, other qualifications outside of aviation and referees. Make sure your referees know that you are using them!

Then get in your trusty wagon, dress up and go and hand deliver your CV. Be prepared to get the kick in the pants, ala I've got 50 pilots hanging off the tree out the front qued up sunshine! Or yer, lets have a chat, look at your logbook, licence and lets go for a check ride.

Go north in the wet season, I live in Darwin and operators are certainly hiring now!

Good luck, I know what it's like as I was in exactly in the same position in 93.

Instructor Rating can also be an excellent asset, particularly a Grade 1 with all the bells and whistles - looking long term.

Centaurus
18th Aug 2017, 15:14
Because it teaches you how to take off heavy and land light..many more times per flight hour than most pilots which is obviously a skill not required for an airline pilot

Airline pilots in general mainly require computer keyboard skills to use the autopilot and navigation displays rather than manual flying skills which you need for dropping sky divers. :E

romeocharlie
19th Aug 2017, 00:27
Yeah but generally you hope POB at start = POB on landing for airliners, for some reason throwing them out the side door is frowned upon no matter how deserved it may be

Totally disagree. I never had any operator say my time skydive flying (a good 1000 hrs worth) was a bad thing. In fact, being that most skydiving operations these days are owned by the same company who operate PT6 machines - I'd suggest the opposite. ie "Oh I see you've got caravan time, that's handy, as we operate caravans in RPT. Would you like an interview?" I've experienced this first hand, as well as watching other people do exactly the same.

Any paid flying opportunity is a good one.

Capt Fathom
19th Aug 2017, 00:32
CPL jobs for low hour pilots

I doubt you'd get a Caravan gig as a recent CPL graduate.

romeocharlie
19th Aug 2017, 00:40
CPL jobs for low hour pilots

I doubt you'd get a Caravan gig as a recent CPL graduate.

No, but the main owner of many dropzones in Australia also has 182's. Progression from the 182 to the Caravan isn't long for most people. Pretty sure a 182 is a low hour pilot gig hey Capt?

Sidenote - wish I was still in FNQ - it's bloody cold down south...

Cessna 180
19th Aug 2017, 01:04
Any flying is good flying.
If you arrive "up north" 300 hours is better than 200 and so on.

Even though it is already hot, do not turn up looking for a job in thongs.

I witnessed that this week.

esreverlluf
19th Aug 2017, 05:12
Small point, but one graduates when one completes the requirements of an academic degree.

I would not use the term "graduate" in relation to a CPL.

Good luck in your job search.:)

Ixixly
19th Aug 2017, 06:15
esreverlluf, Graduate:
1. a person who has successfully completed a course of study or training, especially a person who has been awarded an undergraduate or first academic degree.

Plus they could be doing it as a University degree... perhaps you couldn't quite read the definition from up there on your high horse?

esreverlluf
19th Aug 2017, 08:56
Suggest you try the Macquarie Dictionary definition - in that case it would be an aviation degree, not a CPL. As I said, a small point and I like being in the ivory tower . . . ;)

Anyway, I don't wish to hijack the thread any further - I also suggest heading north and knocking on doors. It worked for me many moons ago. . . .

midgi
23rd Aug 2017, 05:12
Any flying is good flying.
If you arrive "up north" 300 hours is better than 200 and so on.
.

Hey everyone, I'm planning on moving up north next dry season in search of my first job and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on how a fresh CPL like myself should build their command hours in the mean time.

I plan to get 10 hours on a C206 before I head off but I'm wondering if it would be better to get even more hours in the 206 or go for a cheaper type like a 172 or an Archer and log a greater number of command hours overall? (...or does it even matter?)

At the moment I've got 250TT - multi, NVFR and tailwheel

Cheers.

DynamicStall
23rd Aug 2017, 10:29
Definitely go for some time in a C206/210 and start knocking over the ATPL's.

Be prepared and get your DG Awareness completed and First Aid Certificate.

These simple things can make you stand out.

Ixixly
23rd Aug 2017, 10:50
"Woolworths"....

Ozgrade3
23rd Aug 2017, 10:59
get yourself a Light Rigid licence. Will make your CV go to the top in some companies. if you want to go instructing, have all the training activities sighed off including spinning.