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cooperplace
15th Aug 2017, 00:41
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/95784273/flights-in-and-out-of-queenstown-halted-after-crash

Band a Lot
15th Aug 2017, 02:18
Looks like the coil in the R/H mag had an intermittent fault from 2007 to MAX RPM, at temperatures above 7 degrees c to me.

First_Principal
15th Aug 2017, 02:48
What a shame, suspect it's a 177 (Cardinal)...

FP.

B2N2
15th Aug 2017, 04:01
Looks like the coil in the R/H mag had an intermittent fault from 2007 to MAX RPM, at temperatures above 7 degrees c to me.

Really? :hmm:

Another Queenstown-based pilot suggested the frosty conditions might have contributed.

flyingkiwi
15th Aug 2017, 04:51
anyone know the registration? another C-177 crashed there 20 years ago almost to the day. 21/8/97, just wondering if it was same one?

cooperplace
15th Aug 2017, 06:49
no-one hurt, that's great

Ixixly
15th Aug 2017, 07:14
Band A Lot, I was suspecting a faulty Thronomister, possibly a blocked nozzle on the Thronogun Mixulator? Not many Cardinals around, it's a pretty unknown issue, people should be educated on it and have their Thronomisters regularly serviced by a knowledgeable and patient Elf.

Band a Lot
15th Aug 2017, 07:28
Ixixly, That was my first thought too, but look at the elevator position for that - it should be in the up position at 21-23 degrees from neutral. As it is an almost neutral position the Mixulator was not in effect at the time, that is why the temperature was key to isolate the problem to the RPM and magneto.

And as you know, the L/H wing low proves it was the R/H mag.

Surprised you missed that Ixixly, I warned you to watch that fatigue.

Band a Lot
15th Aug 2017, 07:39
On an even lighter note, I think we need to issue warnings against hitting the ground with strong sounds or at least put some regulation in against it.

megan
15th Aug 2017, 23:55
Frost? Be careful out there.

First_Principal
16th Aug 2017, 05:02
anyone know the registration? another C-177 crashed there 20 years ago almost to the day. 21/8/97, just wondering if it was same one?

DFV this time, don't recall the earlier incident...?

FP.

Band a Lot
16th Aug 2017, 06:42
Frost? Be careful out there.



It was reported to be a sunny day, and all passengers and the pilot were wearing jumpers.

Oakape
16th Aug 2017, 06:48
Ah, Aussies then.

Band a Lot
16th Aug 2017, 07:28
Capt Barnaby was scheduled to do this flight but was on stress leave, am not sure who attempted this actual flight.

cooperplace
16th Aug 2017, 11:47
I don't understand any of these posts; maybe it's just me.

gerry111
16th Aug 2017, 12:10
anyone know the registration? another C-177 crashed there 20 years ago almost to the day. 21/8/97, just wondering if it was same one?

ZK-BAA? :O

First_Principal
16th Aug 2017, 20:54
I don't understand any of these posts; maybe it's just me.

That's alright, I too was struggling with some of them, no doubt everyone [who did get it straight away] will be amused to know that, apropos of gerry111's post, for a couple of minutes I was puzzling over wtf a DH-82 had to do with this....

... perhaps I should just respond that, no, it was most likely VH-ROO :p :rolleyes:

In the meantime some poor bloke no longer has his pride and joy, and some other poor bugger no doubt feels pretty bad about that :ouch:

FP.

Konev
16th Aug 2017, 22:29
DFV this time, don't recall the earlier incident...?

FP.

Probably the one that ended up on the grass area between sh6 and the hospital. Efato or fuel exhausted coming in. Forgotten exact reason but do remember the crash.

megan
16th Aug 2017, 23:57
From the link.Another Queenstown-based pilot suggested the frosty conditions might have contributed...... crashed at the end of the runway about 8.50am Clearing frost from a high wing is a bit of a problem, also out of sight, and perhaps out of mind.