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skadi
7th Aug 2017, 07:33
Does anybody has information of this Agusta? mockup? Early 139?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6158600944_81f5281945_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6158600944_81f5281945_b.jpg

Thanks

skadi

500 Fan
7th Aug 2017, 13:30
Could it be the Agusta A129 Utility helicopter? Images in this link of that proposed helicopter. I think it never made it past the mock-up stage.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=869.0

500 Fan.

helipixman
7th Aug 2017, 20:43
If we are talking about the blue helicopter in the middle its an early mock up of an Agusta 139

https://s26.postimg.org/jsz1mo3m1/139_early_mockup.jpg

Bravo73
7th Aug 2017, 22:22
Wow. That 139 bears little similarity to the 139 which ended up being produced.

500 Fan
8th Aug 2017, 11:56
I think the A139 mock-up in the photo was a planned utility version of the A129 attack helicopter, using its engines, rotor system, transmission, landing gear and tailboom and was given the "next number up" in the designation sequence at Agusta. I guess that design was abandoned early on and the "A139" designation was left without an airframe until the current A139/AW139 came along.


All these proposed designs that never quite make it off the drawing board or beyond the mock-up stage are often quite interesting.


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lowfat
8th Aug 2017, 12:21
god but thats Ugly

tottigol
9th Aug 2017, 00:09
I get chills just reading that it was to be powered by yet another Briish ****ty turbine.

Bravo73
9th Aug 2017, 15:48
Calm down. Let's not forget where the gas turbine engine was 'born'.

OldblokeTH53
9th Aug 2017, 16:49
Interesting. I have seen this recently as one of a set of Warplanes cards (1989) as a camouflaged A139 LBH. It said there that it used the A129's dynamic system and landing gear with a new fuselage to carry 8 troops. They thought that it would also have an undernose gun turret and laterally mounted rocket launchers. The proposed engines were two 825 shp Rolls-Royce Gem 2 Mk 1004D Turboshafts. Maximum speed 260 kph, endurance 3 hours.

heli1
10th Aug 2017, 06:13
This mockup was well publicised in the mid 1980s ,using the dynamic system of the A129 to produce a military/commercial transport variant.
What is more interesting is the silver grey fuselage to the right in the wrecks picture.Would anyone care to identify it? I will give you a clue...it was another transport design from an earlier era!

skadi
10th Aug 2017, 09:28
What is more interesting is the silver grey fuselage to the right in the wrecks picture.Would anyone care to identify it? I will give you a clue...it was another transport design from an earlier era!

Agusta AB102?

skadi

Jim Barry
10th Aug 2017, 11:33
Different angle?

http://www.aviationmuseum.eu/World/Europe/Italy/Milan-Malpensa/Volandia/A129-LAH_Tonal.JPG

tottigol
10th Aug 2017, 12:01
Agusta 102, not AB.
8 passenger piston engine with dynamic components derived from Bell design.

skadi
10th Aug 2017, 12:31
Agusta 102, not AB.
8 passenger piston engine with dynamic components derived from Bell design.

Mmh...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agusta-Bell_AB.102

skadi

aerolearner
10th Aug 2017, 13:45
god but thats Ugly

Apparently, the general layout wasn't that bad, as recently it got copy/pasted!:E
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=974&tbm=isch&q=kamov+ka-62&oq=kamov+ka-62

Ian Corrigible
11th Aug 2017, 12:40
Different angle?

That mod was developed as part of the four-nation A129 Tonal light attack helicopter (LAH) study, conducted by Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and the UK:

http://i.imgur.com/333fnxd.jpg

The fairing was presumably an attempt to replicate the AH-64D's extended cheek fairings, for ammo, fuel and/or avionics (i.e. EFABs). The Netherlands and the UK ultimately selected the Apache, with Spain buying the Tiger; Italy continued to develop the AW129 on its own.

For comparison, here's the AW129's standard ammo feed, sans fairing:

http://i.imgur.com/Fl4IynU.jpg

I/C