View Full Version : is EASA the same as the FAA, regarding helicopters?
Chris Pochari
30th Jun 2017, 22:59
How different is EASA compared to the FAA,
I'm planning to go to European flight school
Ascend Charlie
1st Jul 2017, 00:12
And why does a 17-year-old concern himself with parts of the rules that will not concern him until well after he finishes school? Google is your friend, don't make the old heads here do your research for you.
Easa is far more restrictive, be glad you live in FAA-land.
Maybe because, in FAA land, the minimum age for Commercial Pilots is 18.
Chris Pochari
1st Jul 2017, 00:27
I've done a lot of searching but could not find exactly what I wanted so I figured I'd ask the Forum
It seems to me this is an interesting and useful discussion, my age has nothing to do with it. Why not focus on the discussion instead?
boratron
1st Jul 2017, 02:18
your question(s) is(are) too broad and vague. If you could narrow it down it might help. What is your current situation,where are you studying/training??
Chris Pochari
1st Jul 2017, 03:24
your question(s) is(are) too broad and vague. If you could narrow it down it might help. What is your current situation,where are you studying/training??
My question is how different are the EASA standards compared to the FAA
A lot of EASA standards, such as maintenance, have been directly drawn from the FAA.
Although sneered upon by many in Europe, with regards to training, the FAA system is much more straightforward and practical and, when it works as intended, works very well, but it is open to abuse. They know that you will get training throughout your career and, in practice, the insurance companies won't let you fly until you get it.
EASA, on the other hand, does not assume that and requires you to know everything before you start, which is why there are a lot of questions in the exams that may not seem relevant. There is also hardly any standardisation between examiners, whereas, in a place like Canada, you will get the same ride everywhere you go - I presume it is the same for the US as the systems are similar.
The legal system is different, as well - in Europe, you need to be granted permission specifically to do things. This causes a conflict in somewhere like UK where you can do what you want unless there is a law against it.
That's a start, anyway.
Phil
212man
1st Jul 2017, 08:51
Maybe because, in FAA land, the minimum age for Commercial Pilots is 18.
As it is for EASA...
chopjock
1st Jul 2017, 09:37
Apparently EASA sees itself as more "safety orientated" than FAA land!
Chris Pochari
1st Jul 2017, 09:57
A lot of EASA standards, such as maintenance, have been directly drawn from the FAA.
Although sneered upon by many in Europe, with regards to training, the FAA system is much more straightforward and practical and, when it works as intended, works very well, but it is open to abuse. They know that you will get training throughout your career and, in practice, the insurance companies won't let you fly until you get it.
EASA, on the other hand, does not assume that and requires you to know everything before you start, which is why there are a lot of questions in the exams that may not seem relevant. There is also hardly any standardisation between examiners, whereas, in a place like Canada, you will get the same ride everywhere you go - I presume it is the same for the US as the systems are similar.
The legal system is different, as well - in Europe, you need to be granted permission specifically to do things. This causes a conflict in somewhere like UK where you can do what you want unless there is a law against it.
That's a start, anyway.
Phil
Thank you for your reply, this is the kind of info I'm looking for
gmrwiz
1st Jul 2017, 16:35
In the USA world what is not prohibited is permitted. In Europe what is not permitted is prohibited.
Take care
nigelh
2nd Jul 2017, 12:27
I have never been asked for proof of training on any of the helicopters I fly from insurance.
All they ask is have you a valid licence to fly this helicopter and do you have 1000 hrs pic ?
C.C.Baxter
2nd Jul 2017, 16:05
Insurance doubled the deductible because I didn't have 100 hours on type.But the owner trusted me with it anyway.
Insurance denied me providing CFII work on the customer's own 109 as I had no time on type.
HeliTester
2nd Jul 2017, 16:34
In the USA world what is not prohibited is permitted. In Europe what is not permitted is prohibited.Enlightening explanation. :)
tottigol
3rd Jul 2017, 05:03
Insurance denied me providing CFII work on the customer's own 109 as I had no time on type.
And how's that a bad thing?
Even the "lax" FAA requires at least 5 hours on type for instructing in helicopters.
Miles Gustaph
3rd Jul 2017, 09:25
Apart from the simpler regulatory framework, it's cheaper to get a Pilot's license in the US. If you want an EASA license there are plenty of schools in the US that can facilitate.
SASless
3rd Jul 2017, 12:42
Another huge difference between the USA and the UK/EASA is in general we see air transportation infrastructure to bean aid to everyone and fund it through Tax monies whereas in the UK you charge the individual user.
Our costs are lower because we fund it from taxes paid by Hundreds of millions of people rather than a very much smaller number of users.