EU plans to limit Air Traffic Controllers right to go on strike

[Satellite Man]

European commission will set out plan to tackle air traffic control strikes

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jun/06/european-commission-plan-tackle-air-traffic-control-strikes


Airlines for Europe welcomes EU proposals on air traffic control strikes

Airlines for Europe welcomes EU proposals on air traffic control strikes | News | Breaking Travel News (http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/news/article/airlines-for-europe-welcomes-eu-proposals-on-air-traffic-control-strikes/)

[whitelighter]

Best we leave then

Oh good - we already are....

[LookingForAJob]

Notwistanding that the controllers with the greatest propensity to go on strike have, by some measures, better employment conditions than many others, I wonder if anyone will spot that the ever-increasing burden of EU/EASA regulations, many of which have little demonstrable benefit, may be a contributing factor.

Interesting to note also the reporting in the Guardian which does not present a very realistic picture.

[good egg]

Good to note that A4E are not saying that ATC strikes are not to be abolished, more that they should be mitigated to reduce their overall impact (from what I've read).

Of course, some time ago (within the last year, certainly), I saw a rebuttal by at least one ATC union which put ATC industrial action delays into context about flight delays from other sources. From memory it was a tiny, tiny percentage compared with airline operator delays due to staffing/"tech" issues.
Maybe, once their own house is in order, this might go down better.
(I've no doubt ATC industrial action affects passengers - but, again from info I've seen, it's to a much lesser extent than other sources.)
Industrial action should always be a last resort, nobody wants that in any industry. Sometimes it is necessary though, e.g. when Ts and Cs are so severely cut that safety is affected.
ATC is a leaner and leaner industry as time goes by - in essence the same as many other industries. But there is an increasingly fine line between what is acceptable and what is unsafe. In ATC the consequences of "unsafe" are unpalatable. As unpalatable as the thought that ATC staff could not go on strike over safety issues (IMHO).

[1985]

We don't have enough staff to cover the french (or bits of). The bit about other ansps covering for striking ones seems, to me, to be a bit of a non starter

Plus airlines like BA should sort themselves out first

[parishiltons]

Speaking of ATC strikes, some might remember this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbUNzi58wM. The bit about French ATC strikes starts just after the 15 minute mark.

[Satellite Man]

Strikes are the only way to maintain working conditions and also safety standards. There are places where the shift patterns, airspace design, the procedures and the equipment do not really meet the standards.

[Hotel Tango]

Plenty of ways to create chaos without striking, and all quite legal too!

[parishiltons]

Strikes are the only way to maintain working conditions and also safety standards. There are places where the shift patterns, airspace design, the procedures and the equipment do not really meet the standards.
And there's plenty of ways to fix problems without striking. If you're not there, how can you be part of the solution?