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zerograv
11th Jul 2002, 22:16
Hi there!

I have the opportunity to fly a "N" registered aircraft here on this
side of the Atlantic.
Just wondering if I need to have a FAA "ticket"?
(I have a UK CAA PPL)
Also, which are the aircraft documents that I should ask to have
a look?
The FAA issued documents are the same as ICAO?
Certificate of Registration, Certificate of Airworthiness,
Aircraft Journey Log Book, Radio License,
or the arrangement is different.

Thanks,
Zerograv

Check 6
12th Jul 2002, 10:26
Zerograv, you do not state what kind of aircraft, so I will assume a single engine land airplane less than 12,500 pounds gross takeoff weight not flying for hire, i.e. private flights.

On your person you will need:

1. FAA Private, commercial, or ATP certificate for airplane single engine land. If you plan to file IFR, you will need an instrument rating also.

2. FAA 3rd class medical certificate.

3. FCC restricted radio telephone operator's license.

The aircraft will need:

1. Certificate of airworthiness (displayed so pax can see).
2. Aircraft registration
3. Aircraft radio station license

You do not need to carry the engine and airframe logbooks in the aircraft. In the U.S. we do not have airplane trip logs, but we do of course have personal logbooks. You do not need to carry these.

I hope this helps, and good luck,

:) :) :)

zerograv
12th Jul 2002, 11:04
Damn!!!

Yes, it would be private flying (time building)
the aircraft is a C150.
The problem then are the documents (my documents).
I have a PPL, Class 1 medical, RT License
but are all UK (not FAA)

Is there a way to obtain these documents without
having to go to US?

Thanks,
Zerograv

zerograv
12th Jul 2002, 11:07
Check 6

Sorry for my lack of education.

Thanks for your reply,
Zerograv

Check 6
12th Jul 2002, 11:34
No need to apologize. You might try calling the FAA office in Frankfurt, Germany to see if they could do the conversion for you. It is quite simple at an FAA Flight Standards District Office in the U.S., but obviously that would be an expensive trip.

You might also search the FAA web site at www.faa.gov. You could also locate the phone number for the FAA in Germany there.

Good luck,

rick1128
10th Aug 2002, 21:39
Zerograv, you might want to check with your regulatory folks first. My understanding is that you are in the UK. The UK is an ICAO country. It is my understanding that there is a cross agreement within ICAO. Here in the states we can flying foreign registered aircraft on our US certificates as long as we fly domesticly. Once we state to cross international borders we need to have the same nationality of certificates as registration. Does that help?

Panama Jack
17th Aug 2002, 14:44
Depends if you plan to fly by yourself (not with a US instructor). If you plan to do your own thing-- see below:

When you get to the United States, go to the nearest Flight Standards District Office (FSDO)-- look in the blue pages for U.S. Government-- Federal Aviation Administration.

Bring your valid license, medical and logbook from your home country. They will have you fill out an application form (Form 8710) and issue you a certificate based on your foreign license for private privledges for VFR flying. You have to apply for this in person-- it cannot be done by mail. With this you just get a checkout and possibly a flight review at any school or renting place and off you go. The certificate is good for life. Make sure that you always keep your foreign license and medical valid-- as the US certificate only "validates" your foreign qualifications.

The US is one of the easiest countries to get set up to fly recreationally.

Have fun.
PJ

zerograv
18th Aug 2002, 20:38
Rick1128 and Panama Jack

Thanks for the help in explaining the applicable rules.

Has sugested by Check6 a couple weeks ago I called
the FSDO of New York, spoke to an Inspector and
was told that I can fly the a/c with my UK PPL
as long as it is within the UK airspace. To go outside
UK I would need an American Certificate.

Rick1128, you are correct in your description of the
applicable regulation. However the a/c is not in the UK.

Panama Jack, thanks for the "tips". The problem is
that it is not easy to go to the US under the current
climate. I have been studing in the UK but I'm not
a UK citizen (which would make things easier if you
need to go to US). Just to emphasize my point,
in Jan 2000, way before Sep 11, I did try to go to US
to do the PPL and I was told to "get lost" by the
American embassy in my country because I had not
strong enough ties to my country.

Any how, thanks guys for trying to help.

Regards,
Zerograv