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Going Nowhere
15th May 2017, 08:55
Does anyone know why QPA took the long way around between BNE-NRT over the last 2 days.

VH-QPA ? 14-May-2017 ? BNE / YBBN - NRT / RJAA ? FlightAware (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHQPA/history/20170514/0125Z/YBBN/RJAA)
VH-QPA ? 15-May-2017 ? NRT / RJAA - BNE / YBBN ? FlightAware (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHQPA/history/20170515/0030Z/RJAA/YBBN)

Brakerider
15th May 2017, 09:02
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/naips/ChartDirectory/GetImage/B000000F?hires=False

Few Active Volcanoes around

Going Nowhere
15th May 2017, 09:47
Non-ETOPS it turns out

QANTAS A330-300 VH-QPA Returns from Tokyo Narita. | The QANTAS Source (http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a330-300-vh-qpa-returns-from-tokyo-narita-2/)

Ken Borough
15th May 2017, 09:59
Would be interesting to know how the Cook'sTour was explained to the punters!

Duck Pilot
15th May 2017, 10:15
Operational or ATC requirements

zanzibar
15th May 2017, 10:58
Non-ETOPS it turns out

Be that the case, it would seem the route went a a good deal further West than was necessary. What was wrong with running down the east side of the Philippines?

Capt Fathom
15th May 2017, 11:25
What was wrong with running down the east side of the Philippines?
Maybe no airways. I'm sure they wouldn't go further than necessary.

angryrat
15th May 2017, 13:06
Be that the case, it would seem the route went a a good deal further West than was necessary. What was wrong with running down the east side of the Philippines?

Running past Biak and Davao would be the normal 60 minutes non ETOPS route but Davao has been downgraded to use in an emergency only because of security concerns.

Flava Saver
15th May 2017, 13:20
Yawn...... :rolleyes: who cares.

Punters in J class would of loved the extra movie and vino!

Slow news day..

chuboy
15th May 2017, 21:41
Davao has been downgraded to use in an emergency only because of security concerns.
An emergency such as... losing one of your two engines? :confused:

angryrat
16th May 2017, 01:15
An emergency such as... losing one of your two engines? :confused:
I wasn't there, so take this with a grain of salt, by downgrading it to an emergency only, it was decided Davao couldn't be used as an available airport. So there is a gap in the 60 minute non ETOPS rings, between Biak and Mactan, requiring them to go the way they did.

So it's a planning thing, not so much an emergency thing.

ACMS
16th May 2017, 01:41
What's up with Davao?

Tankengine
16th May 2017, 05:43
What's up with Davao?

Some of the locals like to kidnap Westerners and keep them in the jungle for a few years for ransom or death?

ACMS
16th May 2017, 05:46
Haven't heard that about Davao, Zamboanga yes but not Davao......

Mmmmm

Tankengine
16th May 2017, 07:35
From smartraveller website:

Following a terrorist attack in Davao City on 2 September which killed 14 people and injured more than 70 people, the Philippines Government has declared a state of lawlessness. Travellers should expect an increased police presence across the Philippines, including police checkpoints. Continue to exercise heightened vigilance and follow the advice of local authorities. See Safety and security.
There is a very high threat of kidnapping in the southern Philippines, especially at coastal resorts and isolated coastal locations. The threat is highest along the Zamboanga peninsula and in the Sulu Archipelago. Groups based in the Sulu Archipelago have demonstrated the capability to carry out attacks at locations around Mindanao and in eastern Malaysia. See Safety and security.


Finding hotel rooms for 300 after a diversion?