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T250
2nd May 2017, 13:17
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3427174/easyjet-passenger-films-open-cockpit-door-flight-gatwick/

'Shocking' footage shows flight deck door open for 'over 30 seconds' :rolleyes:

Heaven forbid!

Pax can all return to their in-flight movies, rather than running to the papers over a total non-event :hmm:

Hotel Tango
2nd May 2017, 14:03
Actually, footage clearly shows that besides the male cabin crew member on the FD there was another in the galley watching over. So where the "unguarded" comes from I have no idea. A would be attacker would have to get past 2 cabin staff and hope that a plane load of pax wouldn't get involved either. The person who filmed this and the editor of the Sun are both complete morons. But we knew that already of course!

Davef68
17th May 2017, 12:12
I've seen a few times on EJ, second crew member (usually male) takes guard at entrance to galley whilst first opens cockpit. EJ's own aircraft usually have a longer corridor to the cockpit too.

wiggy
17th May 2017, 13:05
EJ's own aircraft usually have a longer corridor to the cockpit too.

Genuine question - Do they?

One for the EJ (and other Airbus) crews but I've never noticed that when I've flown with them and TBH I'm not sure there are that many different configs "up front"...most of that breed of Airbus have the loo between door 1L and the Flight Deck door, BA used to be slightly different and had a wardrobe aft of 1L (where the screen/divider is in the video) which gave a bit more of a corridor...

ExXB
17th May 2017, 18:43
EJ? That is either New England Airways or European Cargo something or other (controlled duplicate).

You don't mean U2 or DZ by any chance?

wiggy
18th May 2017, 06:53
Suppose it's a fair cop though I had a look and it seems EZY is used as the abbreviation on some online sources these days and is also used on some airport departure boards /websites....perhaps to avoid confusion.

DaveReidUK
18th May 2017, 07:30
EJ? That is either New England Airways or European Cargo something or other (controlled duplicate).

You don't mean U2 or DZ by any chance?

Or DS, even.

Suppose it's a fair cop though I had a look and it seems EZY is used as the abbreviation on some online sources these days and is also used on some airport departure boards /websites....perhaps to avoid confusion.

An old chestnut, here's a previous PPRuNe discussion about it:

Why EZY and not U2? (http://www.pprune.org/passengers-slf-self-loading-freight/200362-why-ezy-not-u2.html)

I'd always tended to assume that the reason was some or all of the following:

Recognisability (same reason some airports use RYR and not FR)
Inability of some airport systems to cope with an IATA prefix that ends in a number
Confusion about which part of, say, U2862, is the flight number

ExXB
18th May 2017, 19:52
Neither of the easyJet companies actually need an IATA two letter code as they don't interline, or even provide on-line connections. They should hand them back as they are in short supply. Stick to the ICAO EZY and EZS.

And yes, I did mean DS, slip of the finger is my excuse.

Piltdown Man
19th May 2017, 08:15
Our world appears to be full of panickers, worriers, what-iffers and pathetic mourners. Social media has made us worse. Every incident is met with "we all panicked" and "I was about to die" quotes reported by an ignorant and lazy media. This is another one of those non-event stories. Unfortunately this probably means that really important topics are treated in the same way by the same lazy journalists.

Rwy in Sight
19th May 2017, 10:30
IATA two letter code
Just a question: I thought the two letter codes are they are use as a "suffix" for the flights. So the question what is the use of the IATA two letter codes?

DaveReidUK
19th May 2017, 10:47
A flight number suffix is a single letter optionally used to indicate, for example, a (T)raining or (E)ngineering flight.

It's up to each airline to define their use and meaning, apart from the universally used (Z)ulu suffix that you will typically see of the first day of a new season's schedules where there would otherwise be confusion over two instances of the same flight number on the same day, due to the clock change.

So the question what is the use of the IATA two letter codes?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_codes#IATA_airline_designator

T250
19th May 2017, 13:32
Can we stay on topic?

Hotel Tango
19th May 2017, 15:41
Maybe the original topic has been exhausted as it was a non event in the first place! ;)