Jet2 Flight Deck Crew Home Bases

[Flaps05]

Hi fellow airmen.

I'd like to know if anyone can share information regarding which home bases are available for pilots at Jet2. I'm currently looking at the DEC options.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Leeds Bradford, Manchester, Belfast, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Birmingham, East Midlands, London Stansted and Alicante.

[ScouseGeordie]

Can we assume there's a hot rumour then about the future of Newcastle as a base?

[4Screwaircrew]

Or if you want to be positive assume NCL is full crewed? The original post was about availability of bases for a DEC, and NCL might not have a need for any.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Nope, no conspiracy or any other such thing, just me being a dullard and forgetting about Newcastle.

[Trossie]

Whe gan yee forget Newcassel? The best base fo' any airline graftin yeut iv thor.

[SCINHead]

Quite a few Capts waiting for an internal transfer to BFS (some for a reasonable period of time), Slack handful for MAN too. I do hope they are re-located before DEC's pitch up!

[MaverickPrime]

As in months or years?

[Flying Wild]

Dead (wo)man's shoes...

[MaverickPrime]

Like everything else in NI. Realistically it's a career as a FO at BFS, no matter which airline you are at!

[zeddb]

Theres a number of experienced and qualified SFOs waiting for commands as well, not so wonderful to see lots of DEC recruitment whilst kicking ones' heels wondering if it is ever going to happen after waiting and waiting.....

And before you start on in, ask yourself how you would feel in a similar position or what your reaction would have been as people are slotted in above you.

Rant over.:ugh:

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Zed-

I believe that Jet2 have offered promotion to all internal candidates that have made the grade and have sufficient experience. This is an ongoing project and Jet2 have always preferred to upgrade their own ahead of "slotting people in above you" as you put it.

If you believe that you have been overlooked then perhaps you should be talking to your Base Manager to find out why rather than airing your dirty laundry here.

[Jet2_320]

Zed-
rather than airing your dirty laundry here.

I disagree it is dirty laundry, rather the opposite; It is only fair to inform fellow pilots who are interested in joining the airline before they sign on the dotted line.

Surely Johnny you must be well aware that of the few internal candidates who managed to pass the command selection and command training most have been send away from their home base only to find out that Direct Entry Captains are filling the command positions in their home base.

It doesn't matter how loud the management team is screaming they rather upgrade their own fo's then take DEC's, the line pilots know better.

[1 to go]

As someone who has had responsibility for upgrade training, I believe that there should only be a very small percentage of F/Os (2% to 3%) who cannot upgrade to Captain. If the percentage is significantly higher then either the airline should be looking at its training department and its management attitudes towards its employees or the HR department is hiring wrong people!
Proper training is to avoid failure.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

I understand that the number that have completed the command development course to actually getting through to a command course is more like 85%.

Jet2 have ALWAYS tried to place people where they want to be, if you get an upgrade and have to move away, well that's where there is availability for you, I can only assume that a new recruit would be given a place based on where they have been told prior to an FO being offered their upgrade. Just the way the cookie crumbles.

[I'm Off!]

Sorry Johnny, not strictly true as you know. Quite a few people were moved away from Base to a different base when finishing Command Trg, without having been notified prior to Command Trg as required by Company procedures. They then found that NTR DECs had been recruited to their home base. Understandably, those affected were NOT happy about this.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

If I had known that I wouldn't have written what I did. All I can think of is instances in the past where different 737 variants has come into play.

[DrinkGirls]

Have Jet2 completed their big recruitment drive for this year? If not, is it type rated only?

[flyer4life]

Have any DECs come from EZY and, if so, how have you found the culture change, rosters, length of duty day, availability of leave and special days off etc...

[felixflyer]

Do Jet2 ever recruit new fATPL's without putting them through the apprentice scheme? Would they consider a 40 year old?

I am from the LBA area and would like to move back for a job at Jet2 but too old to go down the apprentice route I think.

[JM926]

Back in 2013 there was an intake of direct entry second officers. Only A handful of people. Hasn't been another round of direct entry second officers since, to my knowledge there are no plans for there to be any. All low hour recruitment now goes through the apprentice route. Hope that helps.

[Odins Raven]

Do Jet2 ever recruit new fATPL's without putting them through the apprentice scheme? Would they consider a 40 year old?

I am from the LBA area and would like to move back for a job at Jet2 but too old to go down the apprentice route I think.

Build some hours on type at a P2F scheme, such as Lion Air and the like. Just don't pick up any bad habits. Lots of guys I fly with here have come rated on the 73 from the likes of Lion, Air Baltic, Air Maroc etc. It's one way to get the 737 hours you need for a FO position, providing the finances will allow of course.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Build some hours on type at a P2F scheme, such as Lion Air and the like

Am I reading this correctly, you are advocating somebody use P2F!!! NO NO NO NO!!!

Do Jet2 ever recruit new fATPL's without putting them through the apprentice scheme? Would they consider a 40 year old?

Q1 - not sure, give them a call, they will talk to you and tell you.
Q2 - Yes.

My suggestion if the answer to Q1 is no, get yourself a job with a regional, get a couple of years experience, then you'll be more marketable. DO NOT P2F!!!

[rudolf]

What he says, avoid P2F.

[Odins Raven]

Am I reading this correctly, you are advocating somebody use P2F!!! NO NO NO NO!!!

Not advocating it, I'm actually against it.

However at 40 years old with just an ATPL and no hours it's likely one of the few ways to get some experience.

Surprisingly, the guys I've flown with who have done this route are actually quite good.

Unfortunately I don't see many regional airlines that will take a chance on a middle-age newbie, but I hope I'm wrong.

[Superpilot]

Odins Raven is spot on and illustrates the reality gap between the haves and the have nots.

[felixflyer]

Haha, I don't consider myself 'middle aged' but I know what you mean.

I have a few options hopefully, mainly down to connections made whilst training. (One of the forgotten benefits of going modular) I just wondered whether it would be worth applying to Jet2 which would enable me to move back home. I will give them a ring.

For the record I have absolutely no intention of paying to work, ever.

[RAFAT]

.....and good on you for stating that fact Felix. :D

[olicana]

Do Jet2 ever recruit new fATPL's without putting them through the apprentice scheme? Would they consider a 40 year old?

I am from the LBA area and would like to move back for a job at Jet2 but too old to go down the apprentice route I think.

Why do you consider yourself too old for the apprentice route Felix?

[Sir Harry Lauder]

Flyer4life

Regards your question; you could enquire with Jet2's Aircrew Manager as he is an ex EZY pilot who happens to be responsible for recruitment and he is also quite a decent chap.

At least he was when he was here!

[jayteeto]

I received my reject letter today, but I can't fault HR at all. Fast and honest answers, all you would wish for (except the job!)

[felixflyer]

Why do you consider yourself too old for the apprentice route Felix?

At my age, whilst I appreciate any job for a low houred pilot will come with a low income I would like to at least be in a cockpit building up my hours and working towards the higher pay. I have a family to support.

I can see why it would be a great route for a 20 something with no real world work experience but I did my time as an office junior long ago.

[Station_Calling]

...the pay isn't brilliant, but you don't have to pay for a type rating after the 12 months. So work out how much you'd have to earn to pay for your TR at places like FR, and add that on to the low salary for the first 12 - 18 months. It doesn't look quite so bad then.