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effortless
30th Mar 2017, 17:52
Anyone know which aircraft? Looks like a pa28
On the Reds
30th Mar 2017, 17:58
The aircraft being a PA28 would be my guess as well from the photo
Two survive after plane crashes in sea at Shoreham - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39448815)
no butz
30th Mar 2017, 17:59
Cherokee G-ATVO
effortless
30th Mar 2017, 18:52
Oh thanks, I've seen it around.
If It Is G-AVTO then It is a PA28-140
Aircraft Data G-ATVO, 1966 Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee C/N 28-22020 (http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/G-ATVO.html)
memories of px
30th Mar 2017, 21:00
registered to Perryair
Redlands
30th Mar 2017, 21:34
Happened too be watching Shoreham webcam during TVO departure, engine did not sound too healthy. Can a record be pulled from a stream?
First_Principal
31st Mar 2017, 00:12
@Redlands:
engine did not sound too healthy. Can a record be pulled from a stream?
Yes, that's fairly straightforward usually. Perhaps from that the media will be able to determine it's not a Cessna :ugh:
FP.
effortless
31st Mar 2017, 08:58
Local rag has vid of them swimming ashore. The discussion between two witnesses is quite amusing. Apparently the pilot was quite upset poor dear. One said he heard engine cut out.
Yellow Son
31st Mar 2017, 09:29
@Redlands:
Perhaps from that the media will be able to determine it's not a Cessna :ugh:
FP.
Well, ITV said it was a Piper but BBC said Cessna, and if BBC said that then it must be true, right?
DaveW
31st Mar 2017, 10:01
The "Cessna" thing came from the original Sussex Police online report, which TBF did say "believed to be a Cessna".
It was later corrected, but by that time most of the media had run with the original material.
Hadley Rille
31st Mar 2017, 10:38
To most people 'Cessna' is the equivalent of 'Hoover' and means a small white aeroplane i.e. not a 737.
tobster911
31st Mar 2017, 11:16
To most people 'Cessna' is the equivalent of 'Hoover' and means a small white aeroplane i.e. not a 737.
Sadly very true, reminds me of this
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByoCABmIgAAmhRC.jpg
memories of px
31st Mar 2017, 11:56
And the ones in the left column are all flown by a single pilot, " the Captain".
tobster911
31st Mar 2017, 12:09
And the ones in the left column are all flown by a single pilot, " the Captain".
Well, obviously.... Why would they need any more than 1 crew member in a multi-crew aircraft. I'm a particular fan of the FO not getting ANY credit when the Captain handles a situation
nevillestyke
31st Mar 2017, 14:17
Looked to me like they got their luggage out of the baggage compartment before striking for shore. After all, you have to get your priorities right!
I would guess that they touched down on the foreshore and overran into the water at a low speed, as they stayed tail fin up?
effortless
31st Mar 2017, 16:02
No one is going to touch down on that shingle beach.
HolyMoley
31st Mar 2017, 16:41
Looked to me like they got their luggage out of the baggage compartment before striking for shore. After all, you have to get your priorities right!
What if it was the docs and the PLB? Would they then have their priorities right? Besides, it doesn't have a baggage compartment anyway.
nevillestyke
31st Mar 2017, 18:36
Behind rear seats, stbd side.
HolyMoley
31st Mar 2017, 20:54
No, it doesn't. Check out any picture on the web. Old Cherokees didn't have it.
Mike Flynn
31st Mar 2017, 22:44
No, it doesn't. Check out any picture on the web. Old Cherokees didn't have it.
Sorry to correct you but they did.
I am a past owner of PA28.G-LIZI...the very first UK Cherokee imported in 1961,
Luggage locker aft of the door.
crablab
1st Apr 2017, 00:04
Sorry to correct you but they did.
I am a past owner of PA52.G-LIZI...the very first UK Cherokee imported in 1961,
Luggage locker aft of the door.
Ditto that. Have flown that aircraft and it most defiantly has the locker! May even have a picture...
EDIT:
I did have a picture :)
http://i.imgur.com/74Njv6M.jpg
HolyMoley
1st Apr 2017, 06:37
Apologies. Not all Cherokees have a locker. Plenty do not. Including this one!
skridlov
1st Apr 2017, 07:07
Sorry about the crappy mobile phone snap. Owner looked pretty glum.
crablab
1st Apr 2017, 08:46
I'm fairness it doesn't look too badly damaged. The cost will be getting it off the beach methinks.
memories of px
1st Apr 2017, 08:49
flew that at Air South, when the owner LIZI Newman was doing her PPL
Meldrew
1st Apr 2017, 11:27
flew Victor Osca when it was based at Stapleford. Blue and White then if I remember correctly.
skridlov
1st Apr 2017, 17:07
I'm fairness it doesn't look too badly damaged. The cost will be getting it off the beach methinks.
The NLG had partially folded back and there was clearly major structural damage in that area but the prop was undamaged (at least I don't recall seeing any). The aircraft had been dragged out of the water the previous night and was either pretty tired before the ditching or else the seawater was already doing its corrosive thing. To get it away - in the couple of meter gap between two beach huts - will require wings off in situ first. There's a path easily wide enough for a truck immediately behind the huts.
I was astonished that they got it down with so little damage. The beach there is quite steep with flat sand only exposed at the bottom of big tides. I'd be pretty surprised if it flew again.
I forgot to compliment the owner on what, in the final analysis, would have to be described as a good landing.