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FlyinColo
28th Mar 2017, 00:56
Most all the recruitment sites are saying you need 500+ hours in the left seat of a 737/A320. I'm in my 30s have about 3000 TT and 500PIC on a CRJ900. Any ideas?

Abagnale
28th Mar 2017, 15:56
You are overexperinced for the role. Try NTR DEC A380 with your extensive experience and do not accept any offer paying less than 30k$ net.

FlyinColo
28th Mar 2017, 19:54
You are overexperinced for the role. Try NTR DEC A380 with your extensive experience and do not accept any offer paying less than 30k$ net.

Thanks Frank... you sound about as useful as my soon to be Chinese FO.

gtseraf
28th Mar 2017, 21:53
probably the best is to speak to the agencies themselves. They can give you the most current answers. The way I see it, if they want time on type and you don't have it, then you'll have to get it to be eligible. However, it's a strange world out there, I wish you all the best with it.

Luke SkyToddler
29th Mar 2017, 02:20
Come on guys don't be too hard on him, he needs at least $20K a month to support his drug habit

Cause he's clearly been smoking some gooooood sheeeit 🙄

Abagnale
29th Mar 2017, 02:34
Thanks Frank... you sound about as useful as my soon to be Chinese FO.
Son, with that attitude I can guarantee you that you are not going to pass your assessment in China. Stop looking at the world through pink glasses. They are hiring on CRJ at Chonqking, try that first ,the money is decent. Good luck!

blink
29th Mar 2017, 17:00
You are overexperinced for the role. Try NTR DEC A380 with your extensive experience and do not accept any offer paying less than 30k$ net.

I almost regretted clicking on this ridiculous thread, but this comment made it worthwhile and entertaining. BRAVO and thank you for the good laugh!

pfvspnf
30th Mar 2017, 01:03
This sort of attitude is what will get you terminated real quick in Asia, money is the first thing they cut . It will make you mad , you will start an argument with HR and you will be on the first plane home.

Grow up mate, bumming around in an RJ is not a big jet. You want to become rich , find a real investment opportunity !

SE210
30th Mar 2017, 06:03
Come on guys. The guy asks a simple question, and get rude answers back.

If you do not have anything positive to say, shut the f... up.

pfvspnf
30th Mar 2017, 06:28
There are things such as stupid questions , this is one of them .

SE210
30th Mar 2017, 12:51
It is not a stupid question.

If you have time as captain on a Q400, some companies in Europe will take you in a left seat on a 737 or A320 (i.e. Sun Express, Vueling).

And why bother answering, if you think it is stupid. Just leave it instead of blighting the forum with contemptuous and condescending comments.

ELAC
30th Mar 2017, 22:17
Thanks Frank... you sound about as useful as my soon to be Chinese FO.

You underestimate the usefulness of your "soon to be Chinese FO" by almost as much as you overestimate your current value on the expat market. With all of 500 hours jet transport PIC under your belt and an attitude like that, if you ever did get to China that F/O would be busy saving your bacon on a near daily basis.

There's exactly zero interest in NTR captains with 500 PIC and 3000 TT, let alone for ones with egos big enough to denigrate the skill of colleagues that they've yet to meet.

The Dominican
31st Mar 2017, 06:22
To the OP....., your experience is too low to be competitive for those 20K+ contracts you are referring to....., those are mainly in China and precisely because of the pay, they have quite a bit of applicants.

I would suggest that you try for the less desirable non-rated DEC contracts out there and get some experience on the A/C, then try your luck in China again.

Best of luck.

Thanks Frank... you sound about as useful as my soon to be Chinese FO.

One thing that I would recommend about Asia in general and not just China..., don't make assumptions! Asia isn't any different than any other country in terms of proficiency in the cockpit, many of the local pilots out here are actually quite good.

SE210
31st Mar 2017, 12:24
But then tell him instead of being an asshole.

His rude comment came as a response to a rude reply in the first place

I have had rude answers here for absolute no reason - and I have 8000 hours +, have been an examiner and instructor for more than 10 years.

Abagnale
31st Mar 2017, 14:12
His rude comment came as a response to a rude reply in the first place
Strange that my reply came across as rude :yuk:
and I have 8000 hours +, have been an examiner and instructor for more than 10 years.
You are my hero :cool:

FlyinColo
31st Mar 2017, 14:46
To the OP....., your experience is too low to be competitive for those 20K+ contracts you are referring to....., those are mainly in China and precisely because of the pay, they have quite a bit of applicants.

I would suggest that you try for the less desirable non-rated DEC contracts out there and get some experience on the A/C, then try your luck in China again.

Best of luck.



One thing that I would recommend about Asia in general and not just China..., don't make assumptions! Asia isn't any different than any other country in terms of proficiency in the cockpit, many of the local pilots out here are actually quite good.

Thanks for the advice Dominican, I'll do that. You're right, it's incorrect to make assumptions about an entire country, that seemed to be a general consensus of posts from the guys on here and a friend of mine in Asia. But now seeing some of the replies to my question I'm realizing maybe a lot of the people here are very jaded so I'll take it with a grain of salt. I appreciate the useful advice though!

sewerpiper
1st Apr 2017, 03:00
Coming here from a US regional as PIC in a new aircraft type? Wouldn't wish that jump into the deep end on anyone. And no, i'm not talking out my ass. I came here from a US regional with considerably more flight time, and started as an FO in the A320, learning from EXPATS who have been here quite sometime.

It will be a very unsafe cockpit IMO. You will need 100% of your focus on the outside environment trying to deal you a bad hand at every turn. The bigger airports in China are getting OK, but the smaller ones are still a circus. Dealing with all of this along with an unfamiliar airplane....no way.

Trash8mofo
1st Apr 2017, 11:45
A typical (good day) flying into PEK/CAN/PVG would be like this: Getting your Arrival about 10NM before the first fix, then the next ATC will switch to a whole different procedure on you. You might get any of the 3 runways (and they wont tell you ahead of time). All the while, you are telling your FO to input that into your FMC, trying to level-down automation, coverting meters to feet, listening to heavy accented instructions, and depending on how comfortable is your FO's CRM, he might or might not point out deviations until its too late. Oh, and then there are the 550RVR approaches on manual land.

Thats all just a really really normal day. And you must understand that there is no "No Harm No Foul" policy. Everything, your fault or not, is your fault.

and those are just their A-team airports.

Abagnale
1st Apr 2017, 12:57
Trash8mofo, he doesn't care, he wants an Airbus rating and 20k. He knows how to fly a CRJ and he's got 500 hours in command, he'll be fine :E

pfvspnf
1st Apr 2017, 14:49
Don't forget RVR 1200 and the airport closes down even they have 4 runways all autoland able , 6 hour delay for slot time, breathing in toxic fumes during the walking around, getting the passengers to calm the hell down , being given a SID in the complete opposite direction due to war games

You still wanna come ?

galdian
2nd Apr 2017, 10:56
To misquote ex President Bill Clinton:

"It's all about the money, stupid......!!"

'nough said! :ok:

cheers.

bafanguy
3rd Apr 2017, 08:36
Solely for purposes of gentlemanly, professional discussion, here's an ad that sorta/kinda fits the OP's question. It appears at least some airline is having similar thoughts. Understanding that the operation itself can be a handful, would there really be all that much difference between a guy transitioning from the E190 to an A320 and one coming from the CRJ900 ?

“For E190 and MD 80 Captains, please contact us for more details on this role.“

E190/ MD 80 to A320 PIC- New Position-Latest Pilot Jobs-Latest Pilot Jobs (http://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/9282.html)

And to the OP, somewhere on here is a link to a FREE e-book titled, "Flying Upside Down". It was written by an expat at a Chinese airline and details his experiences. If nothing else, it's a fun read...and the price is right !! ;-)))

It won't do the OP any good but for purposes of discussion, here's a similar proposition from Europe :

http://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/9174.html