C90 Flight Review SE QLD

[JLucas89]

Hi All,

Is there anyone in the Archerfield/Brisbane/Sunshine Coast area that could conduct a Kingair C90 flight review? Aircraft will be provided.

Thanks in advance.

[Brakerider]

I think either Reg Grundy or Ian Morris at YBAF could probably do that.

[blackburn]

Try Graham Murphy - ATO in Melbourne.

[ANCIENT]

If already endorsed on the C90 a multi engine flight review can be conducted on any twin.
So unless you really must do it on the C90 as that is all you fly you can save heaps going for something less expensive.

[Grogmonster]

Ancient,

With the greatest respect mate it is about safety not money. The Flight Review should be done in the aircraft that you are about to fly for a myriad of reasons. The person above needs to be checked out on the C90 for recency at the very least if "endorsed" or examined for systems knowledge and proficiency if not.

Groggy

[JLucas89]

Hi All,

Thanks for the responses. Very helpful :ok:

Unfortunately the flight review has to be on the C90. I am current on the 200 series at the moment however two sources from the regulator independent of each other have conflicting recommendations. One is adamant that the 200 series covers the 90 as annotated in schedule 13 of the Part 61 prescribed aircraft instrument (as always the information is easy to find... :ugh: ) and Flight crew licencing is adamant that the 90 requires its own separate review to exercise the privileges of the MEA class rating.

So to cover backsides and erring on the side of caution the review will be completed in the 90.

[Car RAMROD]

More Part 61 BS showing that you can't get a straight answer from those who are meant to know :ugh:


Do I have to do training AND a flight review to fly certain types of aircraft?

Yes. Before flying these types of aircraft, you must complete initial training and a flight review on that type. Once you have completed the training and flight review, the aircraft type is covered by the flight review requirements for the class rating.

For example, the BE90/200 (Beechcraft King Air) is included in the multi-engine aeroplane class, but before flying it you need to complete BE90/200-specific training and a BE90/200 flight review. You can continue to fly the BE90/200 like all other types of aircraft in the multi-engine aeroplane class by completing a multi-engine aeroplane flight review.

Other types of aircraft covered by these requirements include: Cessna Caravan (C-208); PA31T; SA226-T Merlin IIIB; R22; R44; R66; Bell 206; Eurocopter EC120 and Hughes 500.

Remember - you still need to consider the general competency rule: do not fly an aircraft unless you are sure you are competent to do so.

https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-page/flight-reviews

Don't suppose you've already done "training and a flight review" on the 90 already? If so, the 200 and 90 being class rated aircraft means current in one, current in the other.
However, my reading of the document where it states "90/200 (King Air)" seems to imply that they are considered the same.

Go back to them and ask for further clarification. Or just go to the bloke that said your good to go and get that in writing from him!

[JLucas89]

More Part 61 BS showing that you can't get a straight answer from those who are meant to know :ugh:




https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-page/flight-reviews

Don't suppose you've already done "training and a flight review" on the 90 already? If so, the 200 and 90 being class rated aircraft means current in one, current in the other.
However, my reading of the document where it states "90/200 (King Air)" seems to imply that they are considered the same.

Go back to them and ask for further clarification. Or just go to the bloke that said your good to go and get that in writing from him!

It's ridiculous isn't it. There it is plain as day on the website yet you call FCL and get a chorus of umms and ahhs. At the end of the day albeit current on the 200 I haven't flown the 90 at all. so I'm sure they would pick through the grey areas and ask what "training" have you done if anything were to happen even though they group them together. If only there was a simple system whereby a sticker or stamp was entered in a pilots logbook as satisfactory evidence of training on type......oh that's right

[knight kevlar]

The C90 covered you for the B200 and vice versa in by aviation authorities in PNG.

[manymak]

If you have a flight review completed on a B200 it will cover you for C90 as this CASR type rating/class legislative instrument shows.

But if anything, transferring from a B200 to C90 (or vice versa) the pilot has a responsibility to comply with the general competency requirement (61.385).

There are quite a few noteworthy system and handling differences between the two types.

[C206driver]

Bob Molony - refer CASA ATO's

[JLucas89]

Bob Molony - refer CASA ATO's

The man I have recruited :)

[Ixixly]

Could not have found a much better gentleman Jlucas! good luck!