The FRIDAY LIAR

[A3301FD]

Having just read the utter tripe in this weeks Friday Liar from the DFO, those individuals that are electing to leave, do not forget to state in your letter to the DFO upon resignation, "If you're just here, purely for the benefits , then there are probably better offers."

[BusyB]

I have personal knowledge of pay increments being stopped for a Captain that apparently extended the rest on a split duty incorrectly.

I also have knowledge of a GMA who tried to insist that a Captain not use a credit card to ensure a flight was not delayed 12hours. The Captain ignored the GMA and the flight departed on schedule preventing untold costs for pax hotels and re-booked flights. Nothing happened to the GMA and the Captains VR was hushed up.

I suspect AT is telling "Porkies" unless she means only management are not punished!!!

[broadband circuit]

What about the captains who lost pay increments for calling unfit (fatigue) because of a ridiculous and last minute roster change in their WOCL.

[betpump5]

Yet there are moronic psychopaths (Sam Ting Wong aka PM) who thinks we should have accepted their abysmal offer last year - along with clause 7.

[Kontract Killer]

PM is a legend in his own lunch box, if you don't believe me, just ask him.

[Average Fool]

Beyond words.

Lies. Plain and simple.

Zero leadership
Zero integrity
Zero respect

It's pure embarrassment these people are running OUR airline.

[goathead]

Over the past 3 CEO's shares are down 40%
Time to Win!
Magic broom required
Senior Management guilty again
$63 million dollar fine finally announced in EU antitrust judgement
The Corruption is top down and filters all the way through the ranks of management.
Pathetic.

[mr did]

This Swire posting cycle will tell us all we need to know. If this Fuel Hedging debacle is really a screw up, heads to roll. If we see the same faces, it was part of the plan all along. I wonder if the ICAC and HKIRD will be taking note...

[Bob Hawke]

Mr Did. You're on the money me thinks. I hope you're wrong, but nothing surprises me with this latest EU decision.

[Starbear]

It is truly astonishing that she is even attempting to equate an individual POSSIBLE pilot misjudgment or correct judgement in a dynamic perhaps stressful situation that must be made within a few seconds, with a humongous cockup such the fuel hedging with days, weeks, hours and endless data available to decide.
She/they simply and obviously just don't get it. It's not the bad (horrendous) judgement call itself that matters but the ownership of the same which counts. And that they have singularly failed to do.

[Trafalgar]

Starbear. Honestly, what were you really expecting from AT? What has she done since she arrived? RP's and Sickness management. Just another broken part of a broken machine. None of them have a shred of credibility. The train wreck will continue.

[Starbear]

Starbear. Honestly, what were you really expecting from AT? What has she done since she arrived? RP's and Sickness management. Just another broken part of a broken machine. None of them have a shred of credibility. The train wreck will continue.

I know , I know. Doesn't reduce my incredulity though.

[Trafalgar]

I hear you. It's like a daily horror show at the moment, and they are the only one's who can't see it for what it is.

[Starbear]

I momentarily wondered how many sets of new landing gear one could buy for squandered fuel hedge loss money but decided that was pointless, easier probably to calculate how many brand spanking new A350s instead. But no matter let's draw a line under it and move on.

[anotherbusdriver]

Well said Curtain.

And it seems so counter intuitive for this management team to be continuing down a path that has brought them to this very point. LEANIng, slashing, removing quality, and not owning their mess ups. Instead, hunting for ways to cover their blunders, and pay for them via paths that have been functioning very well up until they started their slashing and burning.

They want the CMP to provide them with more productivity - because that will help, surely? But without the benefit of more rest and better schedules, and less fatigue.

They want us flying everywhere on absolute Min Fuel - because that will surely help? ... Until the first big unforecast Springtime storm (coming soon!!) causes chaos as per every year with shock and surprise. This time though, with the new HK ATC system, and absolute fumes in the tanks - the "chaos" will be raised up a level to "carnage" I expect.

The solution lies not in the blame game, or the silly new management acronyms that they keep coming up with. The solution to the problem is identifying the problem. That their ridiculous path to the cheapest solution is the wrong path, that their leadership is not working.

I offer a solution in the "Peter Principle", and dare management to look internally and stop with the self denial, and self protection. Own up to the problem, and LEAD BY EXAMPLE....

Make every single employee from Board Members down, go through a series of EQ, IQ and Skills tests (and possible personality disorder tests as well!!.. get rid of the psychopaths while we are at it!!). Let each employee reapply for their position - - most importantly review honestly who is running the show, and why are they in their positions if the skills and personality and IQ/ EQ are not up to the job.

Let's get really honest with ourselves. I dare you!!!!

[Avinthenews]

Inviting that level of "loss of face" unfortunately will never happen.

CX is culturally broken, the East working with West that worked in the beginning and up to the early 90s is long gone, we're on a slow road to China.

[anotherbusdriver]

Av, whilst I appreciate it is difficult to critically look inwards and accept the problem lies within, the "loss of face" of owning up to being part of the problem is is not about "China". This whole fiasco has the stench of "old boys club" stagnation all over it.

There has been a downward spiral of "laurel-resting", and "blame-gaming" since the early 90's, this whole inbred management programme of keeping managers in-house does not lead to inspiration and creativity, it just creates mini clones of whatever idea is being taught at Oxbridge/ ENSEAD.

How about the company looks to becoming a "meritocracy" - quality, diversity, creativity, and innovative thinking become the required skill set. Promotions should be skills based, not opinion based. Instead of amazing new ideas and leaders we keep getting the same old, same old....
Like attracts like and stagnates in mediocrity.

[Zapp_Brannigan]

"we cannot find enough experienced pilots willing to join on the crappy conditions we offer, so we are considering lowering the requirements"

Geniuses...

[Max Reheat]

Consider this...

What if the hedging team, back in 2015, had recommended that we don't hedge right now!
What if someone at the very top of the food chain had overridden their recommendation?
Then in the reshuffle we won't be seeing any heads rolling, well not those responsible for this mess anyway.

[spleener]

Anna: The fuel hedging fiasco would be, in a more robust locale, a culpable act of company negligence on behalf of its shareholders. Pilots guilty of culpable mistakes have been terminated.
And, let us not forget that the reward for getting it totally wrong in aviation can be rather lethal. I'm not expecting the death penalty for cavalier company financial management, just a little quid pro quo?

[E39]

"we cannot find enough experienced pilots willing to join on the crappy conditions we offer, so we are considering lowering the requirements"

Geniuses...

So True LMAO!😂

[Gordomac]

Zapp. I was born in India, still have black hair, brown eyes, tar-brush skin. I have no i dea why the centre of pressure moves forward as angle of attack increases, and feel strongly that reducing EPR will increase RTOW is utter BS. Can I now re-apply ??

[zoombaggin]

Ok, what she actually was referring for new joiners experience levels was DEFO. In the case of S/O new joiners we have so many with ATPLs applying that the minimums are now 1500 hrs and an ATPL. Those with bare CPLs don't have enough experience, in the past this was easily enough. Plus they have waved the cash incentive and hotel accommodation, hasn't stopped people joining.

It's different if you were offered the above and turned up and "poofff.. it's gone" 😏

[flyhardmo]

It's different if you were offered the above and turned up and "poofff.

Only different if you stayed.

[BlunderBus]

I see an individual has taken up legal advice in the usa against yet another example of the company failing (allegedly)to comply with the rules of a real country. Being the non punitive folks they(allegedly)say they are..the immediate reaction was to suspend all negotiations with the local union. Hmmmmm.
Talk is cheap and they have a decades long track record of lying outright about ....well just about everything.
I think a quick (anonymous of course) poll of employees about whether they feel under threat of retribution about ... yet again just about anything...and the self proclaimed 'employee centric' environment they think they have created will evapourate. Why trample your employees to death and then pick them up dust em off and say dont worry we wont take punitive action? It just doesn't gel.
Behave as you see fit but at least have the balls (or skirt) to tell it as it is. The in house fighting and attack on employment conditions is relentless and never ending. they are a bunch of incompetent fools and the most innovative solution they have EVER come up with is fire staff and cut pay. Come this May it will be more (ho hum) of the same.