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crewmeal
16th Mar 2017, 20:25
No this isn't the Daily Mail - yet, but the local Birmingham rag. How can an aircraft lift the nose then abort the landing?

Emergency alert as take-off aborted on Birmingham Airport flight - Birmingham Mail (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/emergency-alert-take-aborted-birmingham-12749049)

What happened to V1- commit to take off - rotate?

jonkster
16th Mar 2017, 21:01
The report seems to say it was passengers who claimed the abort happened after the front gear was off the ground. Somatographic illusion perhaps? Just a thought.

student88
16th Mar 2017, 21:03
How can an aircraft lift the nose then abort the landing?

The aircraft doesn't do it, the pilot does.

This isn't a news story. I'm bored of stuff like this being posted on this website, it's become so low brow.

DaveReidUK
16th Mar 2017, 22:25
Ok realised it was only the OP that added that bizarre title but still. Just bleh. More stories out of nothing.

So then we're left with the passengers' accounts.

I'd have thought that anyone sitting by a window would have a pretty good idea as to whether or not the pitch attitude had changed, not to mention the thump when the brakes went on and the NLG banged back onto the runway.

Collective hallucination ?

jonkster
16th Mar 2017, 22:33
It only says 'a traveller' reported the front wheel airborne.

Which traveller, where they were seated, (perhaps in the middle aisle reading a newspaper?), how keen they were to be part of a dramatic narrative when interviewed etc is not mentioned. There seems no reliable evidence of rotation other than the reported statement from 'a passenger'. I would want more than that before assuming it had rotated.

Harry Wayfarers
17th Mar 2017, 05:04
It only says 'a traveller' reported the front wheel airborne

Was this an Airbus or a Reliant Robin?

Evanelpus
17th Mar 2017, 10:19
It only says 'a traveller' reported the front wheel airborne.

Spotted from their caravan illegally parked on the golf course perchance?

Council Van
17th Mar 2017, 10:54
Flight radar 24 analysis will no doubt provide all the facts:ok:

DaveReidUK
17th Mar 2017, 11:10
The FR24 track has the A321 taking a shortcut across the grass from the runway back to the terminal. So maybe not ... :O

Slightly more interesting is the fact that the aircraft in question had been sat at BHX from March 4th until yesterday. Do Monarch have scheduled maintenance carried out there (the report mentions a prior engine change) ?

Georgeablelovehowindia
17th Mar 2017, 16:36
Indeed they do, Dave, in quite a big facility: Photo Gallery: Tour of the Monarch MRO Hangar in Birmingham, England | Aviation Week (http://aviationweek.com/mro/tour-monarch-mros-hangar-birmingham-england#slide-0-field_images-1363311)

:ok:

DaveReidUK
17th Mar 2017, 17:06
Interesting, thanks for the link.

crewmeal
18th Mar 2017, 07:35
Monarch are currently carrying out checks on all of Royal Jordanian 787's. They have quite a portfolio of airlines when it comes to engineering.

Council Van
18th Mar 2017, 08:11
The FR24 track has the A321 taking a shortcut across the grass from the runway back to the terminal. So maybe not ... :O

Slightly more interesting is the fact that the aircraft in question had been sat at BHX from March 4th until yesterday. Do Monarch have scheduled maintenance carried out there (the report mentions a prior engine change) ?

You could not resist having a look at FR24 though could you.;)

I collected an airframe from the Monarch hangar not long after it had opened, it is a tremendous facility and was absolutely spotless, like an operating theatre.

ratchetring
18th Mar 2017, 08:58
Engine "overheated" according to reports maybe they forgot to top up the radiator after changing it

student88
18th Mar 2017, 18:16
Rejected at 110kts due high EGT.

DaveReidUK
18th Mar 2017, 19:29
If that's the case (source?) then reports of the aircraft having already rotated do indeed seem more than a tad unlikely.