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nimblenoodles
27th Jan 2017, 10:11
Hi !
I just really need to know this info - does CEB impose height requirements on pilot applicants ?
Not yet a pilot here, I plan to study in the US soon... however being a typical Filipina, my height is only about 158cm.
I have tried an A320 sim and seats are fully adjustable. But given PAL's 5'4 requirement, I'm worried that CEB might be the last option left (???)
I don't want to risk spending all the money for flight school and end up nowhere after because of my height.
I've been trying to ask around but thought it'd be nice to hear from the PPRUNE community as well.
Thanks for the time and help !
Mate dont listen to anyone and go speak to them directly! Call up HR and ask for medical requirements yourself. That way you will be 100% sure... However I am sure that some members here would have up to date and correct information
nimblenoodles
27th Jan 2017, 14:10
Mate dont listen to anyone and go speak to them directly! Call up HR and ask for medical requirements yourself. That way you will be 100% sure... However I am sure that some members here would have up to date and correct information
Problem is I can't seem to get in touch with their HR. Have asked around, still waiting for response from other CEB employees. Thanks :D
fatbus
27th Jan 2017, 14:11
I believe Airbus states a height limit. Pedal deflection and overhead panel reach.
Black Crow
27th Jan 2017, 14:12
Just a word of caution. If you do go to CP HR and request the information (good call btw) make sure you get it in writing and signed.
CP HR and Flight Ops are infamous for telling people one thing then completely denying it later.
nimblenoodles
27th Jan 2017, 14:16
Just a word of caution. If you do go to CP HR and request the information (good call btw) make sure you get it in writing and signed.
CP HR and Flight Ops are infamous for telling people one thing then completely denying it later.
Will keep this in mind, thanks ! Ha ha did you have bad experience with CP ?
nimblenoodles
27th Jan 2017, 14:17
I believe Airbus states a height limit. Pedal deflection and overhead panel reach.
I work at the airport and have seen CP pilots pass through immigration... A lot of small female pilots. Just not sure if we match the same height as I have heels on.
I know of several female pilots that are even shorter than that. Just go for it if it is your dream and consider other options if Cebu doesn't deliver what you are expect. Height requirement now a days that everything works with the touch of a button is a nonsense.
nimblenoodles
27th Jan 2017, 17:41
I know of several female pilots that are even shorter than that. Just go for it if it is your dream and consider other options if Cebu doesn't deliver what you are expect. Height requirement now a days that everything works with the touch of a button is a nonsense.
That's quite a relief to know. Thank you. :) If only there are ways to grow taller but with my age all I can do is stretch now. 😂
Officer Kite
27th Jan 2017, 20:40
I know of several female pilots that are even shorter than that. Just go for it if it is your dream and consider other options if Cebu doesn't deliver what you are expect. Height requirement now a days that everything works with the touch of a button is a nonsense.
Sorry but that is ridiculous. If your feet cannot reach the rudder pedals, hands reach the throttle without being too far forward (so that you can reach the pedals) whilst simultaneously being at a reasonable pitch so that you can actually fully see outside then there is a problem. To suggest everything works "at the touch of a button" in itself suggests a lack of knowledge of what's involved to fly a plane. You cannot afford to not be able to reach half the things you need to just cos the aircraft is fly by wire.
Most A320 operators have their requirement around 160, the lowest I've come across is 158cm for easyJet. The reality is you will have to ask Cebu Pacific directly as each airline has their own unique requirements. How it works in the Philippines with regards being told one thing then seeing another being done, I've never been there so don't know, take the advice of those who know how it works there and I wish you the best of luck :)
pfvspnf
27th Jan 2017, 23:54
Shouldn't be an issue , I've flown with some really short guys and gals and the bus who have not had any problems at all. Certain turboprops and Pistons aren't designed as well...
flyboy2683
9th Feb 2017, 02:37
Why not study here in the Philippines
nimblenoodles
14th Feb 2017, 14:10
Why not study here in the Philippines
For FAA License.
Black Crow
14th Feb 2017, 14:41
For FAA License.
An FAA license will open opportunities for you worldwide. A CAAP license is useless outside of the Philippines except for some 3rd world countries.
With the FAA license you will have to actually receive the training and actually show competence to obtain it. With the CAAP license? It depends on how many pesos you have to spend.
pfvspnf
15th Feb 2017, 04:22
CAAP license not accepted anywhere? I'm not sure about this
Black Crow
15th Feb 2017, 11:42
CAAP license not accepted anywhere? I'm not sure about this
Take your CAAP license to another country, especially in the west, and try to do a conversion. It's not a one for one, if they will accept it at all.
For example, in the US they will accept your CAAP Commercial or ATP........in exchange they will issue you a foreign based Private Pilot License, nothing higher. If you want commercial or ATP, then you have to test for all the steps, both written and practical test, to US standards.
Same for all western countries.
nimblenoodles
15th Feb 2017, 14:15
An FAA license will open opportunities for you worldwide. A CAAP license is useless outside of the Philippines except for some 3rd world countries.
With the FAA license you will have to actually receive the training and actually show competence to obtain it. With the CAAP license? It depends on how many pesos you have to spend.
Yes so I heard. Which is why I decided not to train in the PH if ever I decide to fix my Japan residency and well I just really want to try and apply abroad in the far future.
pfvspnf
15th Feb 2017, 15:56
But isn't this true for all licenses converting to FAA with the exception of Canada which has a mutual agreement . Is there any country that you can think of that does not accept the CAAP license ?
Officer Kite
15th Feb 2017, 16:26
Yes so I heard. Which is why I decided not to train in the PH if ever I decide to fix my Japan residency and well I just really want to try and apply abroad in the far future.
Where do you plan to work? Is there enough of a demand for low hour people in the Philippines? I am in europe where the market is booming and it's still a massive risk to train on your own without an airline.
Have you considered Qatar Airways via STAA ?
nimblenoodles
15th Feb 2017, 16:50
Where do you plan to work? Is there enough of a demand for low hour people in the Philippines? I am in europe where the market is booming and it's still a massive risk to train on your own without an airline.
Have you considered Qatar Airways via STAA ?
I heard they hire low hour people in CEB as long as you have an A320 type rating. If things change in the future, I might just stick with the CFI path... havent tried anything. How about you ?
I know it's a big risk but I'm sure we'll end up somewhere... might just take years of hour building.
Officer Kite
16th Feb 2017, 11:27
I heard they hire low hour people in CEB as long as you have an A320 type rating. If things change in the future, I might just stick with the CFI path... havent tried anything. How about you ?
I know it's a big risk but I'm sure we'll end up somewhere... might just take years of hour building.
I am in Europe, and if the Philippines is anything like here, do not, whatever you do, pay for a type rating without a job at the end of it. Where I currently work, they will specifically not employ you if you have a TR but no actual hours on type. It is a huge waste of cash.
Go down the CFI route, that's far better.
Black Crow
16th Feb 2017, 12:57
I am in Europe, and if the Philippines is anything like here, do not, whatever you do, pay for a type rating without a job at the end of it. Where I currently work, they will specifically not employ you if you have a TR but no actual hours on type. It is a huge waste of cash.
Go down the CFI route, that's far better.
Unfortunately CP will hire with no experience just to put a body in the right seat. Lance would have these planes flown single pilot if he could get CAAP to go along with it.
There is no safety culture at CP. It all revolves around how much money LYG can make.
Officer Kite
16th Feb 2017, 14:43
Unfortunately CP will hire with no experience just to put a body in the right seat. Lance would have these planes flown single pilot if he could get CAAP to go along with it.
There is no safety culture at CP. It all revolves around how much money LYG can make.
You seem to know a lot about cebu pacific. Did you previously fly the 320 for them? Are you filipino or not? Maybe that's why you had a bad experience?
I'm very interested
pfvspnf
16th Feb 2017, 22:54
Air Asia Malaysia and Cebu Pacific both hire non experienced people.
From the feedback I have heard from both companies is that training is generally okay , standards definitely lower in the Philippines . Air Asia also has far better command opportunities right now , for Malaysians. Cebu upgrades very few expats but it is possible.
Under no illusion should you belive after you do your type rating you are guarenteed a job , it's all luck!
nimblenoodles
16th Feb 2017, 23:16
Air Asia Malaysia and Cebu Pacific both hire non experienced people.
From the feedback I have heard from both companies is that training is generally okay , standards definitely lower in the Philippines . Air Asia also has far better command opportunities right now , for Malaysians. Cebu upgrades very few expats but it is possible.
Under no illusion should you belive after you do your type rating you are guarenteed a job , it's all luck!
Luck... and connections, I guess ! It's always been like that here in the country.
Black Crow
17th Feb 2017, 12:57
Air Asia Malaysia and Cebu Pacific both hire non experienced people.
From the feedback I have heard from both companies is that training is generally okay , standards definitely lower in the Philippines . Air Asia also has far better command opportunities right now , for Malaysians. Cebu upgrades very few expats but it is possible.
Under no illusion should you belive after you do your type rating you are guarenteed a job , it's all luck!
Training is abysmal at CP. Standards are very weak, no safety culture and with exception most of the trainers have no business instructing. A few of the senior instructors (BJ, JL, RG) actually do a good job, but they are few. The idiots at PAAT have no business in the classroom or simulator.
Air Asia has a real training program and runs it professionally.
nimblenoodles
17th Feb 2017, 13:44
Training is abysmal at CP. Standards are very weak, no safety culture and with exception most of the trainers have no business instructing. A few of the senior instructors (BJ, JL, RG) actually do a good job, but they are few. The idiots at PAAT have no business in the classroom or simulator.
Air Asia has a real training program and runs it professionally.
So do you still work at CP ? Or did you leave already ? You seem to dislike them a lot. Hehe.
Black Crow
17th Feb 2017, 15:48
So do you still work at CP ? Or did you leave already ? You seem to dislike them a lot. Hehe.
It's not a matter of like or dislike, it's a matter of truth. Unfortunately the truth hurts for CP.
Many there will not tell you the truth for fear of retribution, which CP is known for.
Hi Black Crow,
I've sent you a PM.
Hirman1789
24th Aug 2019, 02:26
CAAP license not accepted anywhere? I'm not sure about this
Tend to disagree i know of pilots with CAAP licence holding CAAM,CAAS,GCAA and even EASA licences....