CAE ADAPT Tests [Archive]

ckoczalski

30th Dec 2016, 15:05

Smokie,

I took the ADAPT test in October and I can honestly say that it's nothing to worry about. All I can suggest is practising distance, speed and time calculations over and over as these are the only things you can actually prepare for. The rest (spatial awareness, hand-eye coordination etc.) is meant to test your natural abilities, so its very hard to prepare for because it's so general.

Good luck for whenever you take it!

Qtr Life Crisis

30th Dec 2016, 20:16

Smokie

1st Jan 2017, 23:29

Thanks for the replies guys :ok:

Logun94

19th Sep 2018, 04:12

Can anyone whos done it here give a detailed explination of what to expect amd to share the outcome of thier assesment .Many thanks

HenryWakerley

19th Sep 2018, 11:20

I also used Latest Pilot Jobs! was a good resource for the ADAPT Test. It wasnt as bad as I thought if im honest, the physics and maths part, you could brush up a little, just learn the basic GCSE stuff like basic circuits, just give it a read over. Have a look at a ADAPT test being done, on youtube btw, itll give you an idea of what part of the multi tasking ADAPT test is like as its the same software

I didn't actually pass the first time, I failed in March due to the Fixed wing which is sort of like a flight simulator, where you have to maintain an altitude and fly to certain points. The explanation of this is clear enough when doing it, I just reckon I lost concentration at this part. Even though i failed this, CAE gave me the option to move onto part 3 and retake the Fixed Wing part at the same time after 3 months.

Overall, check Latest Pilot Jobs and dont be too nervous. I definitely over thought it but I passed and I start at Oxford January 2nd!

Good luck!

JimmyT123

19th Sep 2018, 11:51

I will be going through the ADAPT test at Oxford next month, last time I failed the Ball games aspect (moving the ball on the target using the joystick). Does anyone have any tips for that part of the test?

Many thanks!

Logun94

19th Sep 2018, 13:28

Ive just had a look at the adapt multi tasking part that looks like its relentlessly throwing orders at you ,does it all happen very fast ? And in regards to the ball game, does the ball move just horizontaly and verticaly?

Fonel

27th Sep 2018, 19:22

Hello Jimmy, how many points did you get on the ball game?

JimmyT123

30th Sep 2018, 17:47

I don't know about my score, I never got told what score I got. All I know is I failed it. Shame because it was the very last part of the whole assessment as well. If anyone has any tips for it for my resit then that would be very much appreciated.

Logun94

4th Oct 2018, 09:41

Anyone know if the test is negatively marked on the new simbonics testing software ?
Cheers

Aiman0092

11th Jan 2019, 19:22

Logun94

11th Jan 2019, 22:00

Maths and Physics Bundle (http://www.caeoxfordinteractive.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=198)

This is the bundle it covers alot of subjects in both maths and physics which will help you alot in the stage 2 assessment and its what i used while revising for my stage 2.
Latestpilotjobs adapt test package will also aid you with the other aspects of stage 2 like the red ball test
and the Fast test
here is an example of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYSixe6iJvs

2H9M9P1

13th Jan 2019, 21:07

Hi all,

I'm currently using CAE's online Maths & Physics bundle package to prepare and there's lessons at the end on the origins of the universe and life of a star etc. Do I need to really spend time on these topics? They seem a bit random compared to the other topics (mass, forces, circuits etc.)

i.e. will they actually ask questions on this, or would I be foolish not to revise it because it's literally in the pack they provide?

wannabecadet

6th Apr 2019, 18:30

Hiya, I'm currently preparing for CAE's Stage 2 selection. For the people who bought the ADAPT package from LatestPilotJobs, which package did you go for? I'm unsure whether I need the advanced flight simulator and working memory test prep for Stage 2 or not. Many thanks

Aiman0092

6th Apr 2019, 21:03

Hello. I have been to CAE oxofrd And i have done th stage 2 Assessments. Unfortunately i didnt pass the physics module and it means i need to re do it if I'm planning to go for easyjet course. However if i want to join the intgrated course then i could repeat the physics module after doing stage 3. Thats not the answer for your question but i think you will need the 1 month package from latestpilotjobs that bas the simulator and the short memory. You need to focus on physics and math more importantly. Because they arent expecting you to be a pro in the simulator they want you to be able to focus and follow the orders. You will enjoy using the joy stick like i did for the first time in my life. Hope that helps and good luck.

Rachel_

9th Apr 2019, 15:17

Ella2794

12th Apr 2019, 16:00

Thank you to everyone who has commented on this post! Really helpful! I have an assessment day coming up next month!

I just wondered if anyone anyone here who has applied for the women In Flight scholarship? Just being nosey!

Thanks guys!

Hey Rachel,

I have applied for the Women In Flight Scholarship too! I have my second assessment on the 24th!

Rachel_

12th Apr 2019, 22:51

Hey Rachel,

I have applied for the Women In Flight Scholarship too! I have my second assessment on the 24th!

Hi Ella,

oh amazing! Mine is the 16th of next month! Good luck! ❤️

aviation.al

14th Apr 2019, 10:26

Some are saying you are not allowed a calculator.. some are saying you are.. Maybe for the normal maths and physics tests you are not allowed a calculator but for the progressive ones you are? Does anyone actually know?

Rachel_

14th Apr 2019, 14:34

Do you reckon it’s worth calling them? Just to find out if it’s calculator or not?

Also so does anyone know if mental maths would be required or tested? I cannot see it on the pdf but that is my worst point I have to admit! X

aviation.al

14th Apr 2019, 15:15

I think it is worth clarifying. I'm going to call them on Monday. In the ADAPT pack they sent me, if you look carefully, it says that NO calculator is allowed on the maths and physics. But then they give you examples of the questions asked, and quite frankly without a calculator, it's unrealistic to do it in your head even if you are very good at mental calculations. For example, how could one be expected to calculate tan(34) without a calculator? :) Correct me if I'm wrong, but either you need to know a handful of trigonometric identities and spend several minutes converting all the numbers and dividing and multiplying on a piece of paper, OR you are actually allowed to use a basic calculator. From what I understand, the maths and physics questions aren't multiple choice, so you cannot simply guess and estimate. If you get the answer wrong, you get it wrong. You don't get marked on 'showing your working' like we are used to in GCSE or A Level.

Reverserbucket

15th Apr 2019, 13:21

Why not use some initiative and it might give you the edge on the competition. I would expect mental arithmetic with a focus on speed and accuracy - useful for flying as well.

aviation.al

15th Apr 2019, 13:57

The question is about having access to clear instructions for the test that you are preparing for .

sdickson96

15th Apr 2019, 15:58

Thank you to everyone who has commented on this post! Really helpful! I have an assessment day coming up next month!

I just wondered if anyone anyone here who has applied for the women In Flight scholarship? Just being nosey!

Thanks guys!

Yes I am applying too! Will be taking my stage 2 next month!

Reverserbucket

16th Apr 2019, 10:20

The question is about having access to clear instructions for the test that you are preparing for .
Access to clear instructions? I understood the question but what do you mean?

aviation.al

16th Apr 2019, 10:25

You said "why don't you use some initiative". The problem is not with using our initiative, Reverserbucket. Of course we're going to use our initiative and practice some mental maths :rolleyes: The problem is that there don't appear to be any clear instructions about whether we can or cannot use a calc for this test. In addition, there are numerous posts with conflicting information, which arouses further confusion. It would be nice to know for sure, that's all.

Ella2794

17th Apr 2019, 06:39

Hi Ella,

oh amazing! Mine is the 16th of next month! Good luck! ❤️

Good luck to you too! If you like I can let you know how it goes and try and give you any pointers :)

Banana Joe

17th Apr 2019, 08:35

Your initiative should be to prepare for both cases. I did assessments with mental maths and others with the usage of calculator.

saraha05

22nd Apr 2019, 13:54

All the best! That would be great!

mspencer

25th Apr 2019, 09:39

To be clear to those wondering, you are allowed to use a calculator for the Maths and Physics.

saraha05

25th Apr 2019, 14:27

Good luck to you too! If you like I can let you know how it goes and try and give you any pointers :)

Hi Ella I hope your stage 2 went really well? How did you find it? Thank you

Rachel_

11th May 2019, 14:32

Hey Rachel,

I have applied for the Women In Flight Scholarship too! I have my second assessment on the 24th!

Hi Ella,

I hope your assessment day went well, I would love to know how you got on!

Rachel_

17th May 2019, 17:02

Hello guys, I’ve just gone through the stage 2 assessment and now I can clear a few things! And tell you what I thought...

Maths and Physics!

No calculator! Sorry! However the sums you have to do are manageable until you get to the last questions you may have to estimate your answer
distance = speed x time! Practice getting fast on these questions no need to actually remember the formula but nice if you can be quick on them!
In the physics I think it would be beneficial just to practice the formulas. Getting quick to adapting the question to the formula would ease you

Cognitive tests

So I thought these were okay, but practice these online! I’ve found pretty good YouTube videos to explain the non verbal reasoning tests so which ever you struggle with just put some time into it

FAST

Yeah this is difficult! Practice makes perfect, I used latest pilot jobs program and I did find this useful! Just to put the many tasks you have to do at once
You get 2 attempts at this, the first one is to see your initial reactions and the 2nd is to see what you have learnt!

Fixed wing

So I did find this more challenging than I thought! The program on latest pilot jobs was good however I relied too much on the screen at the bottom to tell me if I was on track or not. So maybe try and cover that and only listen to air traffic and at the end see how close you were?
You do get a practice go for this, so don’t worry! The ‘instructor’ will teach you the controls before the test!

Red ball test

This is fine! Practice on latest pilot jobs does help, just do a little each day!

Overall

Don’t stress!
It’s not that difficult however it’s a lot to process and to take in which makes it harder!
Take as many breaks as you need between tests
Talk to others! Everyone is in the same boat and might be applying to a different scheme/company so it might be interesting as what they have to say
The cae bundle does help but do not stress yourself about the questions that require a calculator
Enjoy it! Take your time, and learn from it!

Dopsonj

17th May 2019, 20:20

Pretty good overall coverage of the assessment, we were in the same batch - Have you heard yet?

Rachel_

17th May 2019, 20:33

Hello!
I haven’t heard yet! Have you?
How did you find the assessment?

Symbiotics

6th Aug 2019, 14:53

As there is discussion of ADAPT tests here we thought it would be useful to clarify a few points.

The ADAPT tests are widely used for selection at airlines and ahead of flight training programs. The ADAPT test battery varies per airline or training school, however, if you want to familiarise yourself with the ADAPT tests including FAST, Ball Game, Maths, Physics and cognitive reasoning, you can access them on our ecommerce site to help you know what to expect before your assessment day. Each test contains randomly generated questions and will be unique, allowing you to practice and revise as much as you feel would be helpful on each individual subject. If you are unsure what tests you will be taking on the day of your assessment I recommend that you contact the training school, company or airline and ask them so that you know which ones to practice.Please note we are aware of other websites claiming to offer preparation for the ADAPT tests – these are in no way affiliated with Symbiotics and the tests available from these sites are not our ADAPT tests that you will be taking on your assessment day. We do not have resellers, distributors or partners.All the best on your assessment day and future career in aviation and if you have any questions about the ADAPT tests we’ll be happy to help, please message us on here and we will be happy to respond to your queries.

femalepilotwannabe2

9th Aug 2019, 08:54

I used latest pilot jobs oxford package and it was great for speed testing and the questions were the same type - they also have a pretty goof recreation of the ball test and the slalom as part of that package. Combined that with a bit of BBC bitesize revision of physics (electrical theory mainly) and it was all good.

For the ball test, Like on the the latestpilotjobs software, does the ball move up when you pull the stick down and down when you pull it up?

for example move stick left = move ball left
move stick right = move ball right
but move stick up = move ball down
and move stick down = ball moves up

you can change the setting on latest pilot jobs so move the stick down = down etc
Which is the setting in the actual CAE adapt test

duongtrong

29th Sep 2019, 16:18

Hello, I`m going to have an adapt test in the next two months, I see many positive recommendations about the latestpilotjob, how about the skytest, please can anyone give me a review

TangoYankee777

6th Oct 2019, 10:36

Agreed, trying to work out which is better of the 2, or if it is just worth splurging for the Symbiotics testing. Would really appreciate if past applicants could share their experience and thoughts.

thisishomebrand

6th Oct 2019, 13:53

Agreed, trying to work out which is better of the 2, or if it is just worth splurging for the Symbiotics testing. Would really appreciate if past applicants could share their experience and thoughts.

The Symbiotics stuff is as close as you can get to the real thing so will set you up nicely for the day although expensive and you only get one go. My opinion is that SkyTest is better as you can go through it multiple times. If you have the money, have a go at the Symbiotics stuff and then choose the right tests from the SkyTest selection.

TangoYankee777

7th Oct 2019, 09:39

Thoughts on the CAE package on latestpilotjobs? Better or worse than Skytest?

thisishomebrand

7th Oct 2019, 11:03

You don't get the red dot test in the SkyTest package which is one of the tests you face and so would be good to practice that, although the ADAPT version is slightly different. I have done the Symbiotics ADAPT tests, but haven't done the CAE set so can't comment on if the LPJ package includes everything.

Dini

18th Oct 2019, 06:33

Hello,
I just recently applied to CAE through a university and I'm booked to do the skills assessment test at the end of this month. I am not aware of much practice material, I am aware it is a test we cant prepare much on but I did notice online a lot of you discussing practices, and during that, a lot of things confused me. I wanted to know what the stages are since I am only aware of doing this test and medical as my pre-requisites. Can I also know some good practice materials, i am considering buying the latest jobs package as well as CAE maths and physics bundle. it would be great to get more information or tips and if there are any more practice materials that would be great too!

Percy550

29th Oct 2019, 07:25

I have an exam in 2 weeks so have been studying my maths and physics for the last few weeks.

For those that have completed the stage 2 examination, or just have the information for this questions, to what extent is aviation knowledge tested? Is there a complete section on it and if so are there any specific topics you would recommend learning?

Thanks in advance

DIaero

30th Oct 2019, 14:12

Aviation knowledge is not even tested at this stage, the most you can be asked regarding it is an easy acronym in the cognitive exercises. Maths and physics are easy, start with the difficult ones though. If you want a full review I made about stage 2 go to the thread the says "CAE skills assessment".
Cheers

Simod4

11th Dec 2019, 11:09

Hi guys!
in January I might go troghut the ADAPT test in Oxford. anyway i've read and seen a lot of thing about the ADAPT test and I think that I understood the majority of the test, but still now I'm very confuse about the cognitive part (reasoning test). so if anyone that already did the adapt at CAE could explain me what I have to expect in that part. thank you people

sms8

16th Dec 2019, 19:58

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone confirm what way round the red dot/ball test controls were I'm hearing they may be inverting controls.

thanks

sms8

20th Dec 2019, 17:33

Never mind sat the test now I know...for everyone else who stumbles across this wondering... pitch is normal joystick forward ball goes down as expected, however the yaw (x axis) is controlled by twisting the joystick and its in reverse twist left balls goes right and vice versa!

Timtiml

27th Dec 2019, 12:52

Hello everyone !

Anybody taking the CAE Assessment in January ? Would be good to chat ! I'm taking mine on the 22nd

And has anyone taken it recently ? Any feedback ? I've read that the hand/eye coordination has controls inverted for the roll and it's controlled by twisting the joystick...

As I'm practicing on latest pilot jobs, I'd like to know if the overall test is very similar, easier or harder than the actual ADAPT test....

Many thanks !

sms8

29th Dec 2019, 11:26

latestpilotjobs helps but is not really the full picture, practice loads of speed distance time and speed distance time with fuel burn, be good with pythagoras, trigonometry, bearings, ratios, percentages ....physics be good at resistances/basic circuits,resistance formulas , V=IR etc etc, bernoulli's theorem, gas laws, the red dot is reversed on the x axis and is done by twisting the joystick. There are other tests like mathematical reasoning, visual reasoning Its not an easy test imho depending on how familiar you are with these subjects already will dictate the outcome, the adapt stuff you cant necessarily improve a great deal you either have it or dont for the most part. Check out sky test for the maths and physics

Timtiml

30th Dec 2019, 14:34

Thank you so much for the info !

Also quick question, when I booked my assessment online, I didn’t have to pay anything...so I’m guessing I’ll have to pay on the day of the assessment at the academy.....Can you tell me how much that will be ?

thanks in advance

sms8

31st Dec 2019, 07:20

sounds like you might have applied for easyjet I believe that is free keep us posted how you do

Simod4

2nd Jan 2020, 09:38

Hi Timtiml I'm also going on 22 of January like you

Clarkman

25th Jan 2020, 07:01

Hi, how did you get on? and what did you find most challenging? Thanks

Learning101

9th Feb 2020, 20:16

Hi everyone,
I have my stage 2 coming up in a couple days and was just wondering for the maths and physics test are you given a calculator and a formula sheet or do you have to memorise them. Also, is the maths and physics test multiple choice questions or not. Thanks

sms8

10th Feb 2020, 04:44

calculators are not allowed, there is a formula sheet but you should know some of the more basic ones like hooks law. I don't think that was there on the sheet all multiple choice... maths consists mostly of speed distance time and speed distance time with fuel burn problems with ever increasing difficulty I recommend starting at the harder questions first as they are worth the most marks and fairly essential to get a pass. Good luck

Sely

15th Jul 2020, 21:43

Hi everyone,
I've passed my stage 2 assessments few months ago.
For the maths part : calculator aren't allowed, 20 questions in 30 minutes. The questions include speed-distance-time problems, speed-distance-time with fuel calculation ( fuel used = rate x time ), Pythagoras's theorem, heading (360° a full circle).
Be careful with the units (km/h, miles per hour, miles per minute, ...) and 1,5 hours = 1 hour and 30 min, don't forget to convert the time during calculations.
Check your answers if it makes sense with the question, and check the unit, for example : 45 lbs/min and not 45 min/lbs.
Some informations are given during the assessment, as speed-distance-time formula; 5 miles = 8 km; and 2,2 lbs = 1 kg.
For the physics part : calculator aren't allowed, 20 questions in 30 minutes. The questions include balancing weights, current and resistors, energy, and other topics but I don't really remember.
A paper with formulas are given : Current (amps) = Voltage (volts) / Resistance (ohms); weight = mass x gravity (gravity = 9,81 m/s^2); and other formulas.

I hope it helps you, Good luck ;)

PS : Stay calm during the assessments. And if you failed at a test, don't give up, you can do it again!!

ezymplcae

18th Jul 2020, 15:16

As a current CAE student I could not give a stronger recommendation to avoid this place. Current students are being farmed out to Eastern European (non-CAE bases) where an ATPL costs significantly less. There are people in Oxford just now who have spent over 2 years on the course and still do not have a CPL.

At best, CAE have been disingeneous with their responses. If you know any current students then please ask them about their experiences of flight training.

gurci360

27th Jul 2020, 04:12

hello!
i’m having my stage 2 cae exam (i’m doing it online) in a few days i was wondering if anyone like me has already done it online and if so could you tell me how are they organised? are they really strict? what are the rules etc..
anything would be really helpful, i’m really nervous... haha
thank you in advance!

sms8

27th Jul 2020, 18:51

never done online I’m surprised they are I’m wondering what they are doing to prevent cheating, in any case it’s mostly GCSE based physics and the maths primarily speed distance time, pythagoras , fuel burn calculations. bearing/orientation questions Essentially you need your multiplication and division skills to be sharp read the questions carefully plenty of trick questions e.g 1.25 hrs is 1hr15 mins be fluid with swapping between mins and hours. Generally I find you may be better off starting from the hardest (question 20) and work back as they are weighted with the final 5 bringing the most marks. If you really dont know dont waste time move on and come back the clocks tick fast. The rest like ball test is hand eye coordination there are places like latestpilotjobs.com where you can practice and yes the left and right are reversed and controlled by twisting the joystick... the fasst test again is practicable but you need to have the ability cant really be trained as such... keep calm and focus. Let us know how you get on... I possibly would have suggested a bit of prep time would be sensible if you fail its 3 months so you will have the experience and will know where to practice. Best of luck

p.s the other tests are listening memory and cognitive reasoning tests some things you kind of have or you don’t... but pay attention to detail!

African_TrouserSnake

27th Jul 2020, 21:38

You've already failed the 'analytical skills' part of the assesment by wanting to start your training at the most expensive school during the worst period in current aviation history :D

Alex Whittingham

27th Jul 2020, 22:17

Ah no! I have already found one organisation saying that this is the best time to start an integrated course, because it takes two years, and in two years everything will be fine!

African_TrouserSnake

27th Jul 2020, 22:56

Yeah you're right, just don't forget to pay everything up front and if possible remortgage your parents' house in the process

skyblue12

29th Jul 2020, 22:58

I’m wondering what they are doing to prevent cheating

I’d imagine they are encouraging cheating at the moment to get anyone through their door they can!

ced0802

30th Jul 2020, 18:24

There are people in Oxford just now who have spent over 2 years on the course and still do not have a CPL..

Omg how's that even possible. Such waste of money & time. Sadly clearly a school only interested in making profits

Cistor

31st Jul 2020, 07:52

Ah no! I have already found one organisation saying that this is the best time to start an integrated course, because it takes two years, and in two years everything will be fine!

Confirmed. Readable on their website. "Experts already predicting a U shape recovery"...

Scammers will always scam.

parkfell

31st Jul 2020, 10:31

You can’t blame ATOs for attempting to drum up business; it is survival time after all, and marketing departments do need to think of creative if not imaginative ways to entice the punter through the door.

For a start, make no charge for the selection process. Do you really need one anyway?

A cosy chat will a seasoned aviator will assess “the cut of their jib”.
And have lunch with the prospective student / group ~ a relaxed form of group interview.

Minimum 5 GCSEs / five NAT 5s (Scottish) including maths and english,
2 ‘A’ levels / 3 Scottish Highers (lower 6th exams)
[“A” equate to Advanced Highers]

It will become obvious within the first month of groundschool who are the “training risks” or real ‘no hopers’ : [sorry ~ never say never]
This is in effect a 4 week interview.

As one old hairy ex Nav groundschool instructor said to me when I was a new QFI at BAe flying college, PIK
“if they are thick at the groundschool, they will be thick at the flying”.
So true.

Normal hand to eye coordination sufficient to enjoy driving a car is fine.
It is not fast jet flying after all requiring a “large brain” as well.

Stanley Eevil

31st Jul 2020, 20:40

As one old hairy ex Nav groundschool instructor said to me when I was a new QFI at BAe flying college, PIK
“if they are thick at the groundschool, they will be thick at the flying”

Sorry, but I know from personal experience as a former A2 QFI and TKI this this is just simply NOT TRUE,

parkfell

1st Aug 2020, 07:55

To quote an old phrase “the exception which proves the rule”

The human brain is amazing at ‘going up a few gears’

I don’t doubt for one minute that you will have customers who eventually see the light, and do well.
I can think of one “cross over” who went helicopters to fast jet, and did a tour with the Red Arrows.
To paraphrase his words “the mists cleared”.

Sebas69099790

3rd Sep 2020, 01:42

hi I’ve a question regarding the part of math especially in the fuel consumption rate calculation, can you explain in more detail how can I understand better the subject, I have already done the stage 2 exam and I fail in the math part, and I’m surely that I fail in the consumption fuel rate can you help me understand better this topic. I will retake the exam in one month. Thanks