Where do we go now..(MAS ONLY)

[The Rage]

I just got the news that a few new instuctors were named for the Big Boys fleet, SCARY........, Where are the standards going to and i was told that the boss him self appointed them. so what is training department doing about it.......are they all yes men . The Taliban is going to have a feild day! We have alot of other capable guys around ......top people, SMART ONES not some lame retirees......

[Lee]

The Rage

I like your description of "from: "Truly Asia" That's what the Malaysian govt. is trying to promote Malaysia as "Truly Asia".

Cheers

[Iso]

Please Clarify; MAS only, or MES only! :rolleyes:

[Senso]

Almost true, take the wait and see approach...

Aku ex-MAStake, thought I left the nonsence... but its the same here in Sing and Tell land... "Nepotism and cronyism truely part of Asia".


Gomen dunno where to put these end of the line people who don't know their a*se from their elbow ppl.

Agreed that there are people far more capable, but they are not as good as "brown-nosing" as these individuals.

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777 way to go!

[Iso]

New wawa, bang, bang, roadshow was a hoot - not!. Nothing new, same nepotism, same, same, same. Can you plan a future at MESS, yes, but dont get married, have children, or do anything that might improve your lot in life; we may need to kacau you later for something - nothing! Snake oil is cheap, and easy to sell when the customer got nothing else to buy.
When you management care to listen to your people, you will here the discontent, the lack of direction and decision making by you, that is having a slow but devastating effect on the company. Your inspiration for improving moral is pathetic, and is no different from before. You are the same people as before, but different name.

[Usman]

Well it looked like the ''Shortie General'' had even come under the spell of the 'nasi kangkang' baited to him by the Talibans.

Well at least most all the old Taliban management pilots had been removed since the 911 incident. But there are one or two new one still at large in the high tower.

The Taliban latest strategy nowadays is to infiltrate the training department as instructors on the B744 and later to the rest of the fleet (some of them are already there on the lower fleet). As it is only here they can knock out the rest of the top regular guys with one of their kind.

Once the training department is in their hand the management pilots will be under their thumb.

The 'General' is still in a state of stupor after daily doses of the Taliban brew.

*Nota: 'Nasi Kangkang' is a magic portion of rice given by wives to their husband to make him listen to whatever she says. Basically she have to stand naked over a bowl of rice with incense burning whilst the 'bomoh' the black witch doctor reads the incarnations.

As for me I always wear my 'tangkai' a talisman to protect me from all these Talibans who is using black magic in the name of religion to achieve their 'ambition' as Masters of MAS.

[Slasher]

Dont worry. While MAS has religious freaks and nutcases out to screw the place for personal gain, atheists here have to put up with "Oficial Party Members" who are so close in methods and extremism to your moronic Taliban. The only diference being another similar ideology is used as the vehicle.

[UnLuckPiloT]

Hi everyone down here,I really admire you guys cause you all are flying now ( At least) I am nearly didn't hold the flight control for about a year already.
Sometime I really curious to know that Does MAS takes non-malay?
Please give me kind advice cause I am about to go mad now......:(

[Iso]

Word I got the other day, this is bigger than the taliban, with a small 't'. The DPM is not happy with this circus, and wants a few more clowns changed, and the circus operations increased dramatically. A funny little red & white outfit are proving that there is loads of loads out there, and margins to be made, but the stupified clowns of past and present are not moving with the the music. No one listens to the old TUNE now, so now the new TUNE takes hold, you need to change you're clowns...again, to keep up with the TUNE.

[Bob Hawke]

Slash,

Drop us a line will ya!

[The Rage]

Yes, MAS does take non-malays, not all of us are racist. The JEW ain't around anymore.

[ex330]

Dear Rage,

I'm a uk citizen and just about to get my UK JAA licence. I currently hold a Canadian ATPL with A320 and A330 type ratings 5000hours total time. Any advice on who to contact, best way of obtaining an interview etc. you can private message. Would appreciate any help you can give me. Cheers
ex330

[Usman]

From The Star, Malaysia
6 August 2002

AirAsia wants level playing field to compete with MAS
By CLARENCE CHUA

PETALING JAYA: AirAsia, which started its no-frills flights last year,
wants a “level playing field” to compete with Malaysia Airlines in the domestic market.

The airline is concerned that MAS, which slashed its fares for
jet-powered flights to local destinations, would eat into its profits
and cripple its operations.

“They are well-supported by the Government – their financial source is almost a bottomless pit.

“On the other hand, we in AirAsia are self-financed; some of us had to mortgage our homes to acquire the investments,” said its chief executive officer Tony Fernandes.

He added that for AirAsia to even start its flights to Miri in Sarawak was a “big thing” compared to MAS considering it just another destination.

The airline currently operates four Boeing 737-300s to seven
destinations that include Labuan, Penang, Kuching, and Kota Kinabalu from KLIA. A one-way ticket is priced from RM88 for all destinations except Labuan.

AirAsia uses Kota Kinabalu as its regional hub and MAS, said
Fernandes, was also trying to coax the Sabah government to allow it to use the city as its hub.

“They (MAS) have 14,000 seats, we have only 3,000 seats available. They have 18 flights a day to Kuching, we have four planes,” he told The Star.

The national carrier recently introduced a SuperSaver scheme which provides 50% discounts to travellers on all domestic economy-class fares – with the frills.

“It is ironic that MAS was previously pushing for higher fares. Would they have slashed their fares if AirAsia did not introduce the no-frills flights?” asked Fernandes, adding that since MAS started its low-cost fares, bookings on AirAsia had dropped by 40%.

AirAsia does not serve free refreshments and tickets are issued on a first come first served basis.

“If MAS wants to provide free seats, no problem. But it has to be on level playing terms. This means their funding has to be right.

“They stated that they are losing RM300mil to RM400mil on domestic services a year. Who is funding them? If we go out of business, they become a monopoly. Is that good for competition? Would they revert to higher fares or will their fares remain?” he asked.

Fernandes said that AirAsia officials would meet Ministry of Transport officials to seek clarification on the MAS programme as it looked like it was designed to wipe out AirAsia.

MAS officials, when contacted, declined to comment.

[The Rage]

Sounds like he might be getting ready to get his money out!

[Shintaro9]

Con Ni Chiwa...

I dont understand MAS. Few months ago asked the government for the rights to increase fares. Got the OK and increased the fares, much to the displeasure of the travelling public. Then AAsia came in with the low fares thing..wonderful for the travelling public, especially those flying to SSB..good for national integration..and so on. With their little fleet, AAsia was doing well. MAS felt threatened (in effect MAS neednt worry as AAsia's too small) and reacted accordingly by slashing fares by some 50%, negating the fare increase that they sought not so long ago. I think MAS has bigger worries (their own management) than AAsia and also by doing this has jeopardised the rice bowl of its own staff and the company's own well being. MAS is bullying and is using unfair pratices to stamp out competition (in this case AAsia isnt even considered competition). MAS, if you want to be the sole provider of the service, be good, be fair.

Hmm..we do we go from now??......Sayonara.;)

[UnLuckPiloT]

Dear Rage:
Thanks for your kind info. but the main thing is I am not malay and I had wrote an application letter for MAS but end up no reply at all..............sometimes I really disappointed because PILOT is my dream and I really like to fly I don't want to be on the ground but in the Air............so what should I do?????
all the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Rage]

welcome to the mini version of GLOBALISATION , the problem with mas is no one really knows whats happening!

[Usman]

Yes there is a lot of confusion in the MAS saga. That is the idea of the power that be.

Last 1st quarter they lost 800 over millions and after the re-restructuring they claim to have lost only 300 plus million. It looks like even their accountant cannot count anymore.

Just read about it in ''Airline Airport and Routes'' in Ground Operation Forum.

[MAStake]

Maybe their auditors are Arthur Anderson?;) ;) ;)

[Slasher]

Mate my house got burnt down on May 22 and I got burnt down with it. Been a hellish 2 months. Lost all my computers, URLS, porn, etc. Will send you email when up to it. Still doin physio.

[Slasher]

Unluckpilot its not for me to contradict that theres no place like home, but if you ARE in the US why the hell you want to come back to all that crap that the guys just told you about?

Unlike a lot of countrys around here institutionalised racism is ilegal in the US. Not sayin Malaysias that bad a place but surely the US "padang" is more "hijow"? Just ask that Malaysian actress who made it big with her Bond movies.

[ex330]

Can anyone from the company or outside for that matter, advise me on the right person to contact in regards to pilot hiring. I'm a UK citizen with type ratings on the A330 and A320. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Is the company hiring Expat??? I have sent a CV to Mr Mohsin. is he the right person to contact?? thank you.
Ex330

[MAStake]

MAS does not have 320s and there are no expats on the 330, 777 and the 744. These are reserved for the locals. Expats only on F50, 737 and 742/3.

Mohsin receives applications but forwards them to the Gods who will totally disregard them unless you are a personal friend of 001 and the short general.

Don't waste your time. Most of the Gods are only in temporary residence. The new Gods are not going to be any better. The only difference will be that their knives will be sharper.

[Usman]

Well you can try 001 if you are willing to give half of your salary to his Employment Agencies as token for the favour.

[Usman]

From The Business Times, Singapore
9 August 2002

Authorities to probe MAS plan to cut fares
Move follows unfair competition claims by rival Air Asia
By Diana Oon Abdullah

Malaysia Airlines' plans to cut prices for its domestic routes has led
government authorities to step in following claims of unfair
competition by MAS' competitor, Air Asia.

The national carrier said last week it would slash prices for 14,000
seats by up to 50 per cent each week from Aug 22. Earlier this month,
MAS said it would operate the domestic air routes but would transfer
ownership of the loss-making business to the government.

Air Asia, which currently offers no-frills travel for between 60 and
70 per cent less than MAS' current fare, has claimed that the
Malaysian national carrier's price cuts are not based on bottom-line
considerations.

Air Asia chief executive Tony Fernandes also alleged earlier this week
that news of MAS cuts directly affected the airline's negotiations
with a potential investor. He added that bookings had fallen by 30 per
cent on news of the cuts. He has proposed to the government that MAS'
price cuts be limited to routes which Air Asia does not serve.

Malaysia's Transport Minister Ling Liong Sik said earlier this week
that his ministry would be meeting both airlines to ensure that the
cuts in airfares were part of 'fair and healthy competition',
promising to balance consumers' interest with long-term financial
viability.

MAS' price cuts come just a year after it raised domestic air fares by
an average of 52 per cent last August, and the airline claimed in
March this year that revenues increased by 11 per cent from the move,
despite a 17 per cent drop in passenger volumes.

Critics have questioned whether the move to reduce the airfares is
nothing more than a thinly disguised attempt to regain a monopoly of
the domestic flight sector before reinstating higher fares in the
future.

Air Asia, formerly owned by DRB Hicom, was bought by its present
owners at the end of 2001, and currently uses five aircraft to serve
seven domestic routes.

Its brand of no-frills travel does away with seat numbers and
in-flight refreshments, and uses a ticketless central call booking and
autopay system.

[Usman]

From The Business Times, Singapore
23 August 2002

MAS minorities should take heart
Latest debt revamp, management drive may yield turnaround remedy
By Eddie Toh

THE share price of Malaysian Airline System has not taken off even
though the company unveiled a scheme last month to return to the black
and wipe out its debts. The counter closed at RM3.54 on Friday - below
the RM3.86 level when the plan was announced.

The timing of the announcement was unfortunate. Like other bourses,
the Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange has been seeing rather bearish
sentiment over the past few weeks. The composite index breached 800
points in April but has since retreated to last week's 736.6.

And investor interest in airline stocks has not fully recovered since
the debilitating effects of the Sept 11 terrorist attacks in the US.

But general market sentiment aside, investors remain sceptical about
the latest MAS scheme. Some investors don't like the idea of a virtual
airline as the company would not own any tangible asset. MAS plans to
sell all its major properties and entire fleet of commercial planes to
the government and lease them back for more than RM1.3 billion a year.

The assets include its corporate headquarters and buildings at the
Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Its fleet of 81 planes - excluding
its corporate jet - will be transferred to the government as well. MAS
is also divesting a 70 per cent interest in its catering business to a
unit partly owned by the catering arm of German carrier Lufthansa.

However, that's only half the equation. Investors should note that MAS
would also transfer its huge liabilities to the government instead of
receiving cash for some of the assets.

As the liabilities exceed the value of the assets to be transferred to
the government, MAS will issue new shares at RM3.85 apiece to
government-owned Penerbangan Malaysia Berhad (PMB). As a result, PMB
is set to own 69.4 per cent of MAS.

Perhaps, investors are disappointed that PMB has sought a waiver from
making a general offer for the rest of the company despite breaching
the 33 per cent general offer threshold. After all, this is the second
time that minority shareholders have missed the opportunity to cash
out.

Two years ago, the finance ministry - then headed by Daim Zainuddin -
bought a 29.09 per cent stake of MAS from his protege Tajudin Ramli
for RM1.8 billion, or RM8 per share. The ministry and state agencies
acting in concert - pension funds Kumpulan Wang Amanah Pencen and the
Employees Provident Fund - ended up with over 70 per cent of MAS.
However, they managed to secure a waiver from making an expensive
buyout.

A general offer at RM8 - slightly below Mr Tajudin's investment cost
of RM8.70 in 1995 - would have cost the government in excess of RM6
billion.

Mr Tajudin walked away with RM1.8 billion in cash even though MAS had
haemorrhaged over the past five years. And its debts had ballooned to
over RM9 billion, partly due to the depreciation of the Malaysian
currency.

The government has had no choice but to step in again to salvage the
airline, which has a staggering gearing of over seven times.

In the latest revamp, Nor Mohamed Yakcop, special adviser to Prime
Minister Mahathir Mohamad, has structured a fairer deal instead of
bailing out any shareholder.

Minority shareholders won't have to come up with any money to rescue
the national airline, which is technically insolvent.

Apart from assuming the liabilities of MAS, losses from operating the
domestic routes will be accrued to the government.

In other words, minority shareholders will get an airline with a clean
balance sheet and earnings potential for the first time in five years.
At the same time, the public will not be short-changed as the
government will get MAS assets in exchange for assuming the
liabilities. The government will also charge MAS rental for the usage
of the assets.

In addition, the new management is showing greater resolve to add
value to the airline business . For instance, MAS is working hard to
compete with no-frills newcomer Air Asia. MAS could also end its days
of going solo and join one of the global alliances.

With the latest debt restructuring and the new management drive, MAS
stands a better chance to return to the black and compete with the big
boys like Singapore Airlines.

[Shintaro9]

Having set the debt restructuring program in motion, I wonder why the Chief Financial Officer suddenly resigned. Of all the people, we need this man to see the program through. Further, he was specially brought in by the MD, now he's gone. Anybody knows the real story. It was in the newspapers, but I thought the reason he gave for leaving was "diplomatic". I am looking north east and south man. Is it true that when the CFOs of companies suddenly leave or resign, its an uncanny indication that the company's going down?

[Bob Hawke]

Com'on guys, give Slasher a cheerie word, he's always entaining us on this site, and makes great contributions. Lets just tell him in the true Malaysian way, that we are all very sad to hear of his lose, his burnt house.. Slash, wanna see you on line again soon, and hope that the insurance (is that possible there?) pays for your loses as well.



Onya Slash.

[Slasher]

Bob thanks anyway but Im not after cheery words or sympathys. I was just tellin you why I havent been around last few months. Sh!t happens mate.

I was rentin the pad that was burnt down so its the land-lords problem. Wether he was insured I dont know and I dont care. My personal stuff (contents) was insured with a USA company as the local bloodey commie ones cant be trusted. I got the cheque a month ago.

Hardest part of the physios done and my leg-skin and muscles are in better shape.