Plane crash in Basel in thick fog (confirmed)

[buffalox]

Just now on the main runway on approach.

Currently on BA749 holding for takeoff. What sounded like a small plane (propellor or turboprop) crashed into the ground.

Captain said a plane was unsuccessful in their approach. Confirmed wreckage on runway. Emergency vehicles on site.

[Mlambin]

Survivors ?

[buffalox]

I heard the sound of the engine (hence propellor) and saw the fireball. Highly unlikely, the fog here is atrocious.

[Globally Challenged]

Metar 071630z 35004kt 320v020 0350 r15/0900d r33/0800d fzfg vv///
m01/m01 q1035 nosig

taf amd 071348z 0713/0812 35005kt 0600 fg bkn001 tempo 0715/0724
0100 fzfg vv/// becmg 0800/0803 19006kt 4000 br nsc becmg
0805/0808 cavok

[buffalox]

Runway clear, crash to the left of runway on grass few hundred metres past threshold.

[KelvinD]

Planefinder seems to indicate the original poster's flight has just taxied back to the terminal.

[DingerX]

LiveAtc has the tower recording, for what it's worth. Accident occurred at 16:41Z. All I could get off of it was BLSD.

[Nemrytter]

Aircraft was a PA-34 belonging to a local flying club.

[buffalox]

As the first post, sounded like a small plane, propellor, possibly twin engine. Not huge wreckage (we taxied past). Piper 34 sounds about right (unfortunately). Back at terminal, sounds like slim possibility runway might reopen. Not shut down yet so crew seems to hope so (perhaps).

[KelvinD]

I can also confirm the registration HB-LSD belongs to a PA-34.

[buffalox]

Approx location (http://m.imgur.com/2cUhgvj)

BA749 decision to scrub will be made at quarter past seven (local). Police involved, confirmed fatalities (plural).

A/c shut down, flight to be rescheduled to tomorrow morning.

[baselb]

Local news stating at least one loss of life.

Kleinflugzeug stürzt beim Basel Airport ab ? ein Todesopfer - News: Standard - bazonline.ch (http://bazonline.ch/news/standard/kleinflugzeug-stuerzt-beim-basel-airport-ab/story/31369117) (German)

[EcamSurprise]

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/lfsb/LFSB2-Dec-07-2016-1630Z.mp3

09:45 - garbled go around call
11:45 - the BA call about the GA aircraft

[Eysenck]

Local airport - very sad! The fog has been awful the last few days.

[Porky Speedpig]

BA Source reports a PA-34 passed low over a BA 320 at the holding point for take off at BSL and then crashed just off the runway. How close did they get?

[ETOPS]

How close did they get?

Very - could have been a whole lot worse.

[flydive1]

Or, could have been a lot better...

[B737NG]

Flight took off under VFR / Spec-VFR ?

[Above The Clouds]

How is that possible, we landed earlier in CAT II conditions !!!!!

[buffalox]

For context, I was using sunglasses for the short drive to the airport. Parked, straight through security, but by the time I was airside you could hardly see to the end of the planes at gates. Sunset was 16:38, BA749 should have left at 17:15, accident was at 17:40.

[DingerX]

Indeed, the fog has been playing hit-and-run the last couple days. Down where I am (not Basel, but the Breitling Connie flies by enough that I recognize the sound of those supercharged pistons before I see the plane), this morning everything was clear, save the fog bank eating half the town. Yesterday evening, it rolled in fast, people stopping to take pictures fast.

[KelvinD]

Listening to the BA pilot reporting to the tower that the plane passed over their flight deck at right angles (way off the runway centre line) seems to say you were a very lucky boy Buffalox!

[Takeoff53]

"passed over thieir flight deck at right angles..."? Could that mean "90 degrees of bank"?

[stiglet]

If the BA was waiting at the Cat3 HP it would normally have been holding at right angles to the r/w and so the a/c on approach would appear to pass them at right angles; nothing to do with the attitude of the a/c.