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NutLoose
7th Dec 2016, 09:04
see
Former aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious sails out of Portsmouth - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-38224115)

Heathrow Harry
7th Dec 2016, 11:29
pity we can't preserve one

but when the money is needed to fix the T45's....................

PS Is Bristol still parked in Portsmouth???

c-bert
7th Dec 2016, 14:02
Yep Bristol still here and being used for cadets and the likes.

Heathrow Harry
7th Dec 2016, 16:43
The cost of that boat and the lack of use for it's original job is criminal TBH

Out Of Trim
7th Dec 2016, 18:50
They only got 2 million pounds for her.. Seems a bit cheap!

Spaghetti_Monster
7th Dec 2016, 20:25
Don't underestimate the cost of breaking a ship for scrap. Scrap steel trades at roughly $300 a tonne right now. Lusty was 20,000T ish? Let's say 75% of that was steel. Very crude maths means she's worth about £4.5M. I reckon you could swallow a big chunk of the £2.5M delta in safely and legally taking her apart.

fleigle
7th Dec 2016, 23:19
What if she turns up in China ?.......
;););)
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:E

TBM-Legend
8th Dec 2016, 02:16
What if she turns up in China ?.......

HMAS Melbourne sold to China for scrap. Still alive in a Chinese naval ship yard...mmm

Heathrow Harry
8th Dec 2016, 11:09
" I reckon you could swallow a big chunk of the £2.5M delta in safely and legally taking her apart"

which is why she's off to Turkey - not quite as rough as Pakistan for shipbreaking but still I doubt it's UK HSE terms...................................

Old-Duffer
8th Dec 2016, 11:10
I like to remember what happened HMS Warspite in 1947.

Sent for scrap after over 30 years service and goodness knows how many actions after Jutland, she broke her tow and ran ashore at Prussia Cove on the South Cornwall coast and was broken up where she lay.

The old girl had the last laugh!

O-D

NutLoose
8th Dec 2016, 13:39
Similar to that OD, they used to do tours until a couple of guides died from breathing in chlorine gas from the batteries.

U-118, a World War One submarine washed ashore on the beach at Hastings, 1919 (http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/u-118-submarine-ashore-hastings-1919/)

Wander00
8th Dec 2016, 18:44
ISTR there is a beached and rotting U boat on the shores of the Medway

Hangarshuffle
8th Dec 2016, 20:08
My 2 and a half years onboard HMS Illustrious were really very happy days, way back when in the 1980s. I would still, for all that like to have seen it stripped out here in the UK, then blown to pieces by our own bombs and torpedoes. Would be good practice, good tv-dramatic tv actually. Or sunk as a reef and a safe haven for our own oceanic wildlife, somewhere safe.... or even sunk whole for divers and explorers in the future.
Got to be better than being stripped and flogged in bits by a bunch of greasy Turks. But MOD likes that sort of thing.

Heathrow Harry
9th Dec 2016, 08:23
so does the taxpayer............................

Davef68
9th Dec 2016, 10:13
Leyal have a pretty good record of environmentally recycling ex-RN boats, and it's fully audited in terms of HS/Environmental safety

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/dsa-ship-recycling

The Fearless one outlines the reasons for the Govt strategy

I was surprised to find this line in an official report (The Invincible one)


LEYAL received a great deal of media interest in this vessel as well as enquiries from former sailors who received, with the compliments of the company and in recognition of the strong attachment that Invincible had with those who served on her, a memento in the shape of a small piece of the hull suitably engraved....and who said that scrap dealers were ruthless!!

Tankertrashnav
9th Dec 2016, 10:27
I like to remember what happened HMS Warspite in 1947.


Sometime in the 90s I met a chap who lived in Hayle, a few miles from Marazion where she was actually broken up in the lee of St Michael's Mount. He told me that in the early 50s as a young man he had got a load of teak off Warspite and built himself a garden shed. He had moved house twice since then but on both occasions dismantled the shed and took it with him to the new place.

Probably still in a Cornish garden somewhere!

A lot of info and pictures here

http://www.submerged.co.uk/hms-warspite-3.php

NutLoose
9th Dec 2016, 11:26
Wander00
It was actually covered on TV this week, there is a programme series running at the moment covering shoreline archaeology, this is the one you mean

A monster off the British coast: Rusting hulk of World War One German U-boat that has been marooned by Kent island for almost a century | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2526946/A-monster-British-coast-Rusting-hulk-World-War-One-German-U-boat-marooned-Kent-island-century.html)

They incidentally have just rediscovered the one Nessie attacked off Scotland

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-37691283

NutLoose
9th Dec 2016, 11:32
He told me that in the early 50s as a young man he had got a load of teak off Warspite and built himself a garden shedI read a tale that Rolls Royce at the end of the war were getting rid of engine transport cases to staff who put their names down on a list for them, so they could convert them into sheds, one chap was disgusted when his new shed was dropped off to find it still contained a new Merlin!

TURIN
9th Dec 2016, 12:20
stripped and flogged in bits by a bunch of greasy Turks.

Really??:ugh:

NutLoose
9th Dec 2016, 13:06
stripped and flogged in bits by a bunch of greasy Turks. Eerr I think UK PLC and UK.Gov will have done that first, all they will be getting is the hull, the good bits already having been removed.

Not exactly a shining example of inter country relations there either, you're not Boris J posting under a pseudonym by any chance?
(https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-b&q=pseudonym&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9o_Hmo-fQAhWmHsAKHWvRDqcQBQgaKAE&biw=1280&bih=895)

Tankertrashnav
9th Dec 2016, 15:18
Doubt if it's Boris J, since his great grandfather was Turkish, I believe.