Dick Smith supports One Nation on Immigration and Aviation

[Flying Binghi]

:cool: ... Dick Smith backs One Nation leader Pauline Hanson - 9news.com.au (http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/12/06/05/10/dick-smith-backs-pauline-hansons-one-nation)





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[Ixixly]

Oh god...is this really how low we have to go to get some support for GA?! This seems far too high a cost having to back this looney!!

[tail wheel]

Joins???? :confused: :confused:

Millionaire businessman Dick Smith says he won't be financially backing Pauline Hanson or running for the One Nation party, but supports her immigration policy.

But Mr Smith talked down the extent of his support when interviewed on the Studio 10 program on Network Ten.

However his only interest in the party was its immigration policy, as well as its stance on reforming the aviation sector.

Rather than your very misleading thread title: "Dick Smith joins One Nation"

How about: "Dick Smith supports One Nation on Immigration and Aviation"?

:=

[Band a Lot]

Correct Tail Wheel,


Will supply the link for the ones that have an issue with the immigration policy, so they can say what parts they don't like.

Immigration - Policy | Pauline Hanson's One Nation (http://www.onenation.com.au/policies/immigration)

[cbradio]

“I agree with her views on immigration numbers, that is about 70,000 a year, not 200,000. But I do not agree with her views on Muslim immigration.”

Dick probably should have said Population Policy if thats what he meant. Bit hard to support her Immigration policy, which is the quote in all the news, without supporting that little detail.

[le Pingouin]

Not a great move Dick. Most people are either going to think "ewww, what an idiot" and not read any further or think "yipee, he likes Pauline" and not read any further. They certainly won't look at the nuances.

[Band a Lot]

Population Policy?

There is no limit they have put on population, only immigration. Australians and Immigrants both move overseas to live. They can be replaced with migrants. All other Australians can breed as much as they wish.

P.S. as with most years about 61,000 Australians bring in their Partners and kids to migrate to Australia and pay $6,865 for Partner and if applicable $1,720 kid under 18 for the privilege. + $418,765,000 per year. and $100,000 to bring in your parents.

[Creampuff]

Oh god...is this really how low we have to go to get some support for GA?!If GA wants any real change? Yep.

Whether you consider it going "low" or not, it's the only real chance for real change. Fact is that Senator Hanson's chief advisor flies a Jabiru. Whatever your personal views may be about him and her, at least he has some insight into the reality of what the regulatory regime and airport privatisation are doing to private and 'little' GA, and she has the power change things.

Ben Morgan should be addressing all of AOPA's letters to each and every one of the cross-bench Senators, not people who have no interest in changing anything.

[ExtraShot]

P.S. as with most years about 61,000 Australians bring in their Partners and kids to migrate to Australia and pay $6,865 for Partner and if applicable $1,720 kid under 18 for the privilege. + $418,765,000 per year. and $100,000 to bring in your parents.

...And that's nowhere near enough money to build even a fraction of the infrastructure required, at a rate fast enough to keep up with yesterdays population, let alone the future population if we keep Net Overseas Migration at levels around 200000 per annum (around 41 million by 2060 according to the Productivity Commission). Not. Even. Close.

I remember seeing somewhere, that the dollar amount per immigrant above replacement level for infrastructure requirements was some astronomical number. $180k odd. Without that kind of spend, quality of life goes down unless you can get people to not all move to Melbourne and Sydney (and the other Major Capitals).

Most politicians aren't interested in doing anything as it is possibly the biggest single lever you could pull to take pressure of housing prices (the Australian Real Estate Ponzi would start to crumble). Not only that, but the lazy GDP increase of around 2% makes the incompetents in Government of the last 10 years, look extremely clever. Nevermind the decrease in GDP per capita and thus resulting... well, reduction in quality of life. Ultimately, you'll end up with resentment against ALL immigrants, instead of welcoming just enough to get the benefits we need, and do our bit to help the rest of the world (refugees).

Dick has a massive point. One Nation is merely providing an avenue for his concerns to be acted on.

[Frank Arouet]

And recently AOPAA support Pauline Hanson.


Perhaps more should run the flag up and see who salutes.


Tuesday, 6th December 2016


PRESS RELEASE – For immediate release


Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA) of Australia to work with Queensland Senator, Ms Pauline Hanson’s One Nation and all sides of politics to develop general aviation reform policy.


The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA) of Australia welcomes interest from all sides of politics with regard to the important issue of general aviation reform, understanding how important it is for the country’s political leaders to have a clear and concise understanding of the challenges facing our industry.


The AOPA Australia confirms that it will work with Queensland Senator, Ms Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Party and all other sides of politics to develop a general aviation reform policy framework that can serve to arrest the serious decline of the general aviation industry.



The AOPA Australia has recently highlighted to government, that over the past 10 years...

[dr dre]

If GA wants any real change? Yep.

Whether you consider it going "low" or not, it's the only real chance for real change. Fact is that Senator Hanson's chief advisor flies a Jabiru.

I can't find anything about any One Nation policy regarding aviation. There's more than one party or person in politics and more can be lobbied to support aviation rather than a party which will probably disintegrate soon, just like they did in the 90's (actually it's happening now). Even if they offered to buy every licenced pilot in the country a Jabiru, I still wouldn't support a party with such toxic, racist, unscientific and unconstitutional views.

[Creampuff]

I'm not advocating "support" for her.

I'm advocating for her to be lobbied, along with every other cross-bench Senator. They might just listen, understand and use their votes to change things.

In reality, that's the only (slim) chance there is of making any substantial change to arrest the decline of GA.

CASA, Airservices, DIRD and the Minister couldn't care less about the plight of GA. Why would they? So why would AOPA bother trying to reason with them?

[Goat Whisperer]

If I was looking for a crossbench senator with an interest in the Australian aviation industry I would look elsewhere...

Give me an "X"!

[Torres]

The merit and value in lobbying an Independent is that one only needs to convince one person, rather than trying to change a party policy. A party member may agree with and support your view but will still toe the party line when votes count.

The more outrageous extreme right Independents are arguably the easiest to influence.

[Frank Arouet]

Some of you people amaze me with your lack of objectivity and vision. Preferring to dismiss somebody or something because it doesn't concur with your overall agenda or political bias. Maybe somebody should ask One Nation/ Pauline Hanson if they have an aviation policy. If it turns out they don't, or are just getting around to thinking one up, why not suggest Dick Smith write one for her/them. Maybe some of you could suggest to Dick what they would like to see in an aviation policy. Maybe some other Party's may seize on that policy and write the salient parts into their agenda just like they have pretty well done with all her past suggestions, policy's and ideas.


Can it hurt? Probably not.


Can it help? Possibly.


Is it better than what we are doing to date? Well, maybe you can answer that question.


Apologies Torres: Not directed at you.

[Creampuff]

If I was looking for a crossbench senator with an interest in the Australian aviation industry I would look elsewhere...

Give me an "X"!Not look "elsewhere".

Better to look to NXT "as well as" all the other cross-benchers.

Does no one on PPRuNe pay any attention to how government decisions are really made?

[Kooka]

I find Pauline Hanson's immigration policy repugnant.

If she came up with a decent aviation policy I would vote for her.

Now I understand why Trump won.

[Pinky the pilot]

I find Pauline Hanson's immigration policy repugnant.


Why?

Just curious.

[Band a Lot]

About the only repugnant thing possible is a reduction in air traffic movements from what I can see. I don't think a zero net immigration is possible, but is a reasonable target. Would make it much harder to get a 457 visa for pilots. Really can not see any other reason for such a harsh word about this policy, disagreement with it is ok but I to am curious as to why repugnant was used?

One Nation believes in balanced, zero net immigration (subject to review depending on economic conditions) and that coming to Australia is a privilege that must not be undervalued. We reserve the right of discretion in protecting our economy, social cohesion and cultural heritage.
THIS DOES NOT MEAN ZERO IMMIGRATION
'Zero net' means we replace the numbers that leave Australia with new migrants.
The justification for our policy of not exceeding zero net immigration is that environmentally, Australia is near her carrying capacity. Economically, immigration is unsustainable and socially, if continued as is, will lead to a further ethnically divided Australia. Current policy is encouraging large numbers of illegal migrants and it is time Australia, while recognising the contribution made by migrants in the past, sends to the world the message that mass immigration has passed its “use by date.”
It is now critical to develop a population policy for Australia in order to decide immigration numbers rationally and in the best interest of Australians. The immigration policies of the major political parties to this day have proven disastrous, proceeding as if there were no balance of payments problem, no foreign debt and no geographical or environmental constraints to population growth. If continued, such an immigration policy will irreversibly alter the natural and urban environment, economic viability as well as undermining the maintenance and further development of a unique and valuable Australian identity and culture.

[LeadSled]

Folks,
I can tell you something for nothing:
This has got the attention of Gippsland's Answer To George Clooney (aka "The Minister") like nothing else out of aviation's left field (or is that right field) ---- maybe he has run the numbers and even his seat is not really safe.
Ain't preferential voting a great thing!
Tootle pip!!

[Dick Smith]

Is One Nation going to run a candidate in the Ministers seat?

[glenb]

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!