S76 C++ / D ok for SAR in EASA?

[capt tosspot]

Hi guys, a quick Q - I need to check if the 76C++ or D is still ok for SAR in EASA. I know the SMA used them until they got their 139s in 2013, so are they still approved or are there limits due to performance ?

I have no experience or manuals for the S76 so any advice appreciated.
cheers,

[212man]

I need to check if the 76C++ or D is still ok for SAR in EASA

SAR is not regulated by EASA but by the National Aviation Authorities.......

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Does it have a 4-axis AP with transition modes, NVG cockpit, radar, dual-hoist with auto-hover/hover trim and a decent white-light set of floodlights?

[Sanus]

Does it have a 4-axis AP with transition modes, NVG cockpit, radar, dual-hoist with auto-hover/hover trim and a decent white-light set of floodlights?

Yes. All the above. Take a look at INAER's two civil S-76C+ used in Spain.

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Should be good for SAR then.

[gulliBell]

What is a dual-hoist? You mean a hoist with speed control (fast/slow), or dual control (pilot + crewman pendant), or dual winches fitted?

For S76 the answers are yes, yes, no. CHC use S76A++ in SAR role in Australia, I think they were all A model builds converted to A++ and modded with the auto-hover SAR package stuff plus NVG compatible lighting. No reason why C++ can't be modded so, assuming there is an IIDS version which is NVG compatible.

[Hot_LZ]

Dual Hoist = 2 hoists next to each other so that in the event of failure/malfunction you have the redundancy to use the second.

LZ

[gulliBell]

So is that two separate electric motors driving a common drum/cable, or two completely independent winch systems? I've never seen a dual winch fitted to a S76.

[DTD585]

Try this link: http://utcaerospacesystems.com/cap/systems/sisdocuments/Rescue%20Hoists%20and%20Cargo%20Winches/Rescue%20Hoist%20Model%2044316.pdf

[lowfat]

dual hoist is a uk thing

[Sanus]

All EASA SAR 76's, 139's, 92's etc have to be Dual Hoist i.e. 2 x Hoists. The 139 is mounted in tandem. The S76 is mounted side by side.

[212man]

All EASA SAR 76's, 139's, 92's etc have to be Dual Hoist i.e. 2 x Hoists. The 139 is mounted in tandem. The S76 is mounted side by side.

EASA does not regulate SAR.....(I think I may have said that already)

[Phone Wind]

Dual hoist is not a UK thing. For example, it was a Statoil requirement for their SAR aircraft in Tanzania (now flying for Bristow in Nigeria)

[Darren999]

Korean SAR S76D's do not have dual hoists. Don't think they need them..

[BTC8183]

Finding a image of any S76 version fitted with a dual hoist, seems rather elusive.Inaer's website has their Gardacosta machine with single only.Archive of retired SwedCG show single too.

[lowfat]

Dual hoist was mandated by the UK CAA for sar. Because the single hoist goes against the double failure mode..
They actually wanted the 2 cables to run out at the same time, they settled for the "dual hoist".
The lighthouse services only have one hoist the windfarms one hoist.
Yes dual hoists are an option on the 139 blah blah blah. But its not mandatory.
NHV are using single hoist 365s to satisfy the dutch SAR mission.. Imagine a dual hoist on a 365 you would have no payload...
Is this done now?
https://youtu.be/0OsZ4Dl_Suk
single winch in japan

[3D CAM]

lowfat
Yes dual hoists are an option on the 139 blah blah blah.
I find that comment offensive. UK SAR has a dual hoist requirement following the death of Coastguard Winchman Billy Deacon, a good friend of mine!! I am sure also that some of my ex colleagues would agree with my sentiment!
3D

[lowfat]

the blah blah blah refers to aircraft types... nothing else. I've reread my complete post nothing offensive or derogatory, You are reading things in to my post.

[Sanus]

BTC - picture of an S-76 with dual hoist:

Sikorsky S-76C - Gardacostas de Galicia (Xunta de Galicia) | Aviation Photo #1870167 | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Gardacostas-de-Galicia-(Xunta-de-Galicia)/Sikorsky-S-76C/1870167)

[BTC8183]

Sanus-Proven:ok: Looks compact enough even for a 365!

[lowfat]

Its the weight not the size that affects the 365... its another 60 odd kg