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21st Oct 2016, 17:48
Mrs VJ has been having a bout of vertigo.

It came on spontaneously. After a day I took her to the doctor who prescribed pills. No better after three days so we went to the doctor again.

Different doctor told her to go to physio. Epply Manoevre and several others.

A week later she's no better so I took her back.

Yet another doctor told her it is common and probably recurring in mature women but she had better get checked out at hospital to make sure it is nothing worse.

Emergency doctor sent her for ECG. "Your heart is fine, I think, just to be sure you should have a brain scan."

He came to talk to us after the scan.

"I can't see anything," he said.

Says it all really.

Pontius Navigator
21st Oct 2016, 19:17
CVJ, mine has the same issues, serc is what our quack prescribes.

21st Oct 2016, 20:35
I can sit on a flight deck and stare down at Greenland from FL370 or look down from a tall building's edge - no problem.
However, these movie shots from a helicopter with vertically downwards facing cameras moving across skyscrapers make me uneasy. I think it's a lack of peripheral references.

Juliet Sierra Papa
21st Oct 2016, 21:31
An audiologist specializes in treating inner ear disorders, like benign paroxysmal positional vertigo that can cause balance and/or hearing loss.

May help!

Loose rivets
21st Oct 2016, 22:16
I'd always thought vertigo was specifically the sensation of spinning in the horizontal plane.

I've had it twice. Once the day before I was to attend the Belgrano for one of the big medicals, and once the day before back surgery. In both cases I could not possibly have driven a car for perhaps four days.

I did notice that in each episode I could find a position that would stop the spinning. In the first case the spinning would stop in 27 seconds after lying down or sitting up. The second was a bit more difficult to define, but a good position was mostly okay each time.

I was lucky to have a short period but it can last weeks - really crap while it's there.

For those that seem to be stuck with it there are all sorts of methods of ameliorating the symptoms -including being spun in a centrifuge. That is supposed to get debris moved to a less critical area. Doubt any of this will be necessary as it's usually caused by a virus and just goes away with time.

In the case of Meniere's, I think it's more a general dizziness. Still horrible. It's astonishing how we take our balance system for granted.

Twenty years ago one female friend had to be rescued with a ladder via her flat window. She could not make it to the door. She was fine in a few weeks and I've not heard her mention it since.

surely not
21st Oct 2016, 22:21
ChrisVJ I hope you survive publicly suggesting your wife doesn't have a brain!!

21st Oct 2016, 22:57
Had MrsVJ recently been to the hairdresser and had her hair backwashed over a sink? On two visits to the dentist, one a week after the other a few years ago, I had bad attacks of vertigo when I got out of the dentist's chair and on one of those occasions I had a 'drop attack' where I collapsed gently for a few seconds to the floor. My GP initially thought it was benign paroxysmal positional vertigo but when he did the Epley manoeuvre my eyeballs remained steady rather than moving so he thought I maybe had temporarily trapped the basilar artery at the back of my neck when my neck was positioned on the chair headrest.

A person with vertebrobasilar insufficiency (VBI) may experience symptoms lasting for a few minutes or permanent symptoms. These symptoms may include:

Loss of vision in part or all of both eyes
Double vision
Vertigo (spinning sensation)
Numbness or tingling
Nausea and vomiting
Slurred speech
Loss of coordination, dizziness or confusion
Trouble swallowing
A drop attack — sudden generalized weakness

My dentist is now very cautious and restricts how far back he tilts me in his chair - no problems since ..... and I try to relax rather than being tense as he drills! A common name for the problem is Hairdressers Neck or Beauty Parlour Syndrome. There was a BBC News article in 2004: BBC NEWS | Health | Warning over 'hair salon stroke' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3654987.stm)

22nd Oct 2016, 03:42
I got diagnosed with Benign Paroxysmal Positional Vertigo - BPPV - about 3 years ago. They did some testing to make sure it wasn't something else more serious but they all turned up negative. In simple terms, BPPV occurs when a bit of your inner ear comes loose and starts floating around - when it lands in a bad place you have an episode of BPPV. It's the most common cause of vertigo.
The bad news is that there really isn't much they can do about it other than have you hold your head in certain positions and avoid holding it in others. I've had four episodes so far - roughly one a year, each one has lasted for a couple months, then mysteriously goes away. It contributed in no small way to my decision to retire from auto racing (a serious dizzy spell while driving at speed could have been really bad).
What's really interesting is that the first day or so after an episode of BPPV starts are horrible - I'm almost unable to function (it's a lot like being falling down drunk - including the frequent vomiting, except that it doesn't wear off after a few hours), driving is definitely out of the question. But then after a few days your body adapts - you still have dizzy spells, but they're no longer debilitating (although still really annoying) and I found I can function more or less normally.
My most recent episode occurred right after I'd had lengthy dental procedure in preparation for a crown - about 90 minutes with my head in pretty much the exact position they tell you to avoid if you're prone to BPPV. :sad:

I'd suggest seeing an ear specialist.

22nd Oct 2016, 17:28
I went through 3 years of tests to try to find the problem of dizziness in spells that could last all afternoon or just half an hour, finally found a Professor of Audiology( i think thats his title) who told me the problem was thickening of the fluid in the Eustation Tube,( the main component of any Humans Balance system) I had a rather difficult operation to fix a small drain into said tube to allow excess fluid to be drained off into my neck and "Bobs your Uncle" now gone 25 years without any more dizziness. And more importantly no effect when out flying.

Now the only balance problems I have are with Bank accounts and Gin/Whiskey or Fizzy stuff:D;)

Pontius Navigator
22nd Oct 2016, 18:15
I can sit on a flight deck and stare down at Greenland from FL370 or look down from a tall building's edge - no problem.
However, these movie shots from a helicopter with vertically downwards facing cameras moving across skyscrapers make me uneasy. I think it's a lack of peripheral references.
On a reference point, I could lie on the couch, firm base, and look straight down, 2,000 20,000 40,000 feet no problem.

OTOH, sitting on the floor, feet dangling, looking out the window 5 feet from me and observing the ground 4,000 feet below swinging against the fixed reference of the window frame was most uncomfortable.

22nd Oct 2016, 19:20
I only bent down to pick up the milk from the doorstep, immediately I was drunk and nauseous and ended up sitting on the hall floor until the world stopped spinning. My partner accompanied me to the doctor's surgery, on foot, slowly. They treatment they suggested was sea sickness tablets at the maximum recommended dosage. No driving for as long as the symptoms remained plus a further 5 days. I was not too stressed by the inability to get to work but cancelling a months worth of flying lessons right after buying my first aircraft was a bind.

22nd Oct 2016, 23:02
Probably the best Hitchcock film.

Loose rivets
23rd Oct 2016, 00:36
in the Eustation Tube,( the main component of any Humans Balance system)

Something a bit wrong here. While Eustation tube problems might eventually affect one's balance it would be via the Anterior, Posterior and Lateral Semicircular Canals.

Here's a good one.

Inner ear - human anatomy organs (http://www.medicalook.com/human_anatomy/organs/Inner_ear.html)

23rd Oct 2016, 03:20
We went to a local function yesterday evening. I introduced Mrs VJ as my "dizzy blond wife." Luckily she has a sense of humour. (She probably needs it.)

23rd Oct 2016, 08:56
Lose Rivets,

I can only tell you what was the written explanation attached to the invoice for said operation cost me 7500.00 in 1992..:)

Loose rivets
23rd Oct 2016, 11:36
That was in the UK? Blimey, good job it wasn't in the US.

It's just the wording. I supposed a bill doesn't bother to be too technical but I always want to know what's going on.

Last session with an ENT specialist got me a total contradiction with the previous bod. (pressure in the cochlea) I wasn't going until I'd got some sense to the science and finally we started talking the technicalities, though she totally disagreed with her colleague. :ugh:

Come to think of it, she started telling me about the eustachian tube and I had to be quite assertive to stop the obviously oft churned-out mantra.

I think she prescribed cyanide to get rid of me. :uhoh: