MH17 missile 'fired from a field in territory controlled by Russian-backed rebels'

[Phoenix1969]

Maybe I haven't been able to search for it properly elsewhere on PPRUNE, but don't believe this BBC article about the findings of the international prosecutors investigating the downing of flight MH17 has yet been posted - apols if it has been.

MH17 missile 'came from Russia', Dutch-led investigators say - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37495067)

Oh and here's their full report (in English) - https://www.om.nl/onderwerpen/mh17-vliegramp/presentaties/presentation-joint/

[wiggy]

Not sure if the BBC piece is in there but your link might be more appropriate in the "MH17 Update" thread in Rumours and News.

[Phoenix1969]

Not sure if the BBC piece is in there but your link might be more appropriate in the "MH17 Update" thread in Rumours and News.

OIC - I daren't go in there. I see there has been some activity on that thread, but the last time I had the temerity to post a link to an article in a thread in that part of PPRUNE (about MS804, not MH17) I got a message saying

‘PPRuNe Message

You have been been given some time away from this discussion. This is not a ban - feel free to browse other forum threads’

and I wasn't able to access that thread again.

Couple of good Grauniad links though....I always think the BBC tells the news while the Guardian tells the story behind the news - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/27/mh17-explainer-what-you-need-to-know-before-the-criminal-inquiry-results and https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/28/flight-mh17-shot-down-by-missile-brought-in-from-russia-ukraine-malaysia-airlines

[TonyGosling]

Can this really be the only active thread on the downing of MH17?
Sorry if I missed it but all the others seem locked

MH17 down near Donetsk
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/543733-mh17-down-near-donetsk.html
MH17 Update
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/565993-mh17-update.html

I'm a journalist, with an aviation background, and some quite important updates to impart.....
Can someone answer? Is it the only thread?


Not yet published on the TU-154 crash
A lot of indications out there that the FDR 'flaps' transcript may be unreliable
I've made two posts on that line with references
But mods haven't allowed them
This isn't feeling like a safe space

[DaveReidUK]

I'm a journalist, with an aviation background, and some quite important updates to impart.....

Fire away ...

[TEEEJ]

This should be fun! The Tony Gosling from Russia Today?

No doubt something to do with the "élite Bilderberg" group? :rolleyes:

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/authors/tony-gosling/

[TEEEJ]

Tony,
Before you impart these "important updates" do you still believe the following that you stated on Russia Today?

You claim at 1:30 the following.

You've also got an aircraft MH17 that was diverted 2,000 feet it seems. The Kiev ATC asked it to descend closer to the ground and 300 miles to the north to actually divert this specific plane.

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Are you still spouting this non-sense in regard to the MH17 flight path?

The Russians agreed with the MH17 flight path and signed off on the preliminary MH17 report.

According to the flight plan, flight MH17, would initially fly at Flight Level 330 (FL330) above Ukraine until the waypoint PEKIT, then climb to flight level 350.

At 12.53 hrs MH17 was asked if it could climb to flight level 350 in accordance with the filed flight plan, but they replied that they were unable to comply and requested to maintain at flight level 330. This change of plan was agreed, and other aircraft in the area were told to climb to flight level 350 to avoid a potential separation conflict with MH17.

The crew of MH17 asked to divert the flight path by 20 nautical miles due to bad weather they could see on their route. MH17 then asked if flight level 340 was available. They were told that it was not available due to the other civilian aircraft being assigned heights in order to deconflict with MH17. That is why MH17 continued on its altitude of 33,000 feet.

See page 11 of 34 2.1 History of the flight.

http://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/uploads/phase-docs/701/b3923acad0ceprem-rapport-mh-17-en-interactief.pdf

MH17 was not diverted 300 miles to the north as you claim.

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-mh17-10-previous-flightpaths-different-from-17-7.t4378/

Also remember that the Russian Ministry of Defence lied about the MH17 flight path in their media briefing. The question is why?

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/10/15/how-the-dutch-safety-board-proved-russia-faked-mh17-evidence/