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mattycoze
10th Sep 2016, 08:10
Hey there

I was interested in finding out more about Avgas prices at different rural and remote airfields around Australia for flight planning scenarios.
I am planning on calling up local airport fuel operators as listed in the AIP/ERSAs to ask for particular pricing structures - but does anyone know if there's any better way of going about it!?

E.g.
- standard pricing indexes (... wishful thinking?)
- up-to-date pricing observations (like how mogas fuel-watch apps work... pie-in-the sky thinking?)

In anycase - I'd appreciate any tips or comments about getting fuel in rural areas. I'd be interested to know how reliable the services are also!

Cheers M@

fujii
10th Sep 2016, 08:41
If you have Oz Runways, there is a tab on there which will display fuel prices at many places. It may not be up to date but is pretty close.

gerry111
10th Sep 2016, 09:03
There's some places where the Avgas price isn't even shown at the bowser. And often the machine has run out of paper for your receipt.

I have been pleasantly surprised at the competitive prices at two remote destinations. Coober Pedy in S.A. and Thargomindah in Qld. The prices being cheaper than YSCB at the same time. Go figure..

Jabawocky
10th Sep 2016, 11:46
Caboolture = $1.91

Barcaldine = $1.99

mattycoze
11th Sep 2016, 08:53
Thanks everyone for the feedback :)

@Fujii - great suggestion, I was just looking into getting OzRunways
@Jabawocky - $1.95 at Bundaberg (the only place that I've contacted so far)

CYHeli
19th Sep 2016, 00:27
And Lilydale in outer metro Melbourne is $2.002!!

havick
20th Sep 2016, 00:26
Where they get you in Australia is not so much the fuel price, but the undocumented callout fees.

skipper1981
20th Sep 2016, 01:37
Bourke NSW $2.00 24 hour Card access.No landing charges.

mikewil
20th Sep 2016, 03:10
These fuel prices are insane, it was only 6 or 7 years ago when AVGAS was only around 20 cents more than than the price of regular unleaded petrol at a city petrol station.

Rod Con
20th Sep 2016, 05:39
Expect to pay $3.00 or more in the outback and I would be asking if they have fuel rather than how much does it cost.

Lead Balloon
20th Sep 2016, 08:08
What outback places would they be, Rod? I've been to some quite outbacky places where the fuel was less expensive than some city aerodromes.

But I agree with your other point: Availability is the more important consideration out where aerodromes are few and far between.

Flying Ted
20th Sep 2016, 08:21
I have recently come back from the Flinders Ranges and found the fuel prices to be reasonable given the remoteness and (I suspect) limited sales in some of these places (e.g. Leigh Creek).

Before leaving home I used Oz Runways to plan my fuel stops. Some quick calculations soon showed there wasn't anything to be gained flying out of my way for a saving of even 10-20cents. Availability is the most important issue for me.

Pinky the pilot
20th Sep 2016, 08:27
it was only 6 or 7 years ago when AVGAS was only around 20 cents more than than the price of regular unleaded petrol at a city petrol station.

And it was about 17 years ago when AVGAS was about 6 to 7 cents/litre cheaper than regular Unleaded.

I was then living in a house on a regional Airfield, working for a Regional Airline and had a TA22 Toyota Celica with a somewhat 'worked':hmm: twin cam engine.:ooh:

It pinged like hell on regular Unleaded and went like hell on AVGAS!:E:ok:

mattycoze
20th Sep 2016, 11:57
@ havick that's true - even when I emailed fuel operators they were especially cagey about answering that... I guess phoning is the surest way to find out.

Does anyone actually know where OzRunways gets their fuel pricing data?

Since everyone likes to keep current on fuel prices - perhaps post what you know to my online spreadsheet?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N0v1fvO03T91rx_gFCxjy34Q1dUYcP0_WGuLWXsxKys/edit?usp=sharing

I'd love to map it all out as a free resource for other pilots and people interested in historical prices... open data now!

Rod Con
21st Sep 2016, 00:12
What outback places would they be, Rod?

YBDV, YINN, YWMC all over $3 to name a few. All great places to fly to, I would not let the fuel price stop me flying there.

Lead Balloon
21st Sep 2016, 01:12
Indeed.

But I tend to get fuel at YLEC or YCBP before lobbing into YWMC. Trev makes more than enough out of us on the beers and the accommodation and landing fees. Jiggered if I'm going to pay $1.05 per litre premium for AVGAS as well!

Not many options at YBDV and YINN though...

Squawk7700
21st Sep 2016, 01:51
Is Avgas cheaper in Qld like standard automotive fuel is (due to taxing arrangements being different in QLD) ?

Goat Whisperer
21st Sep 2016, 02:28
Tyabb, Vic $1.98, claims to be 2c more than Moorabbin, but Moorabbin is $1.83.

Old Akro
21st Sep 2016, 03:07
But I tend to get fuel at YLEC or YCBP before lobbing into YWMC. Trev makes more than enough out of us on the beers and the accommodation and landing fees. Jiggered if I'm going to pay $1.05 per litre premium for AVGAS as well!

In defense of Trev & other outback airstrips, I costs a fortune to get the truck up there. And the roads have been closed to 2WD trucks for some weeks and I think they still are.

I could see Coober Pedy to William Creek & back being a full day for a 2WD truck. All of that goes straight on the AVGAS price.

Lead Balloon
21st Sep 2016, 03:41
Don't get me wrong - I'm not criticising Trev. He's entitled to charge whatever he likes for AVGAS and any other goods and services he provides, and I'm very, very glad that he makes them available. But my colleagues and I would rather save around $300 by uplifting fuel at YLEC or YCBP, and spend that at Trev's pub!

Jabawocky
22nd Sep 2016, 15:25
Is Avgas cheaper in Qld like standard automotive fuel is (due to taxing arrangements being different in QLD) ?

No

And we lost that advantage many years ago. It was 10c/L on car fuel advantage. Long distant memory. Sometimes cheaper just across the board and further from the refinery/fuel farm. :confused:

TBM-Legend
19th Apr 2018, 02:13
What is the current posted price of Jet A1 and AvGas in the capital cities?

Tks