Multi Engine Instrument Rating

[stephen2688]

I'm commence my type rating next February and my Multi Engine Class Rating expires at the end of October, do I need this to be valid to allow me to renew my Multi Engine Instrument Rating in January next year? Or can I let it expire?

[SeventhHeaven]

Is the search function broken? There is a topic from just a few days ago that answers this very question!

Nope, no class rating required to validate a MEIR. At least, not in the UK. Did it myself two months ago.

[stephen2688]

Is the search function broken? There is a topic from just a few days ago that answers this very question!

Nope, no class rating required to validate a MEIR. At least, not in the UK. Did it myself two months ago.
SeventhHeaven if you could send me the link to the said topic from a few days ago that would be much appreciated! Because I can't find it in search, thank you kindly!

[RedBullGaveMeWings]

Is the search function broken? There is a topic from just a few days ago that answers this very question!

Nope, no class rating required to validate a MEIR. At least, not in the UK. Did it myself two months ago.
PPRuNe search function is broken. Use Google instead the site: i.e. site: pprune.org key words.

No space after :, had to put it to avoid posting an emoji.

[milan.pilot]

simple answer is: NO
You need only valid IR-ME to start the typerating, which is the entry requirement for the typerating/IR.
At the end, you will attend the typerating licence skill test for specific type and type-based instrument rating. So you will be again holder of the ME-IR.
According to the PART-FCL, instrument rating is allways related to the specific type ie B737, or class - ie MEP(land).
Should you need any help, contact me, I am EASA examiner.

[rudestuff]

Same answer - all you need for a type rating is an MEIR. You just need that to be valid - you don't need a valid MEP to renew an MEIR, it can be done on it's own. (I've got an MEIR, and I've never held an MEP!)

[jamesgrainge]

Same answer - all you need for a type rating is an MEIR. You just need that to be valid - you don't need a valid MEP to renew an MEIR, it can be done on it's own. (I've got an MEIR, and I've never held an MEP!)

How can you be MEIR without ever holding an MEP? If you could tell me that then I will simply skip it during my training and save some cash?

[rudestuff]

People just assume (quite reasonably) that you need an MEP - but nowhere in Cap804 does it say that you need one, only that you need to do the MEP course before starting the MEIR.

[jamesgrainge]

People just assume (quite reasonably) that you need an MEP - but nowhere in Cap804 does it say that you need one, only that you need to do the MEP course before starting the MEIR.

Thanks for the reply. So you just never need to take the skills test? But you have to have done the training anyway. May as well do the skills test and then you've got it if it's on the table I guess?

[RTN11]

Thanks for the reply. So you just never need to take the skills test? But you have to have done the training anyway. May as well do the skills test and then you've got it if it's on the table I guess?


Indeed, you never need to do the MEP skills test, or get it issued. It does make the MEIR pretty useless, but to be honest I never once use my MEP rating after my test, it was a good experience though and not actually all that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

At least for me that rating is now sitting on the back of the licence should I ever need to get it back, rather than never having held it at all.

Sometimes in flight training it's tough to justify the costs of extra tests, you can't really compare your costs to anything in real life as they're all completely ridiculous. I find non-pilot friends never understand the ridiculous amount I would spend to sit in a ageing twin for two hours without even being able to enjoy the view.