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sitigeltfel
22nd Aug 2016, 18:06
Germans have been told to stock up with ten days of supplies for civil defence measures...

Germans told to stockpile food and water for civil defence - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37155060)

Is there something we should know?

:confused:

meadowrun
22nd Aug 2016, 18:24
Interesting.
Here I live on the Pacific Ring of Fire and we are advised to have a 3 day emergency kit, not 10 days mainly for the eventuality of an earthquake and tsunami. Ten days is a lot of kit, especially for a family.
There really should be something significant behind this as Germany does not expect earthquakes, but then again they did not expect a few million guests.


Basic emergency kit checklist:
Water — two litres of water per person per day (include small bottles)(replace regularly to keep fresh)
Food that won't spoil, such as canned food, energy bars and dried foods (replace once a year)
Manual can opener
Wind-up or battery-powered flashlight (and extra batteries)
Wind-up or battery-powered radio (and extra batteries)
First aid kit
Extra keys for your car and house
Cash, travellers' cheques and change
Important family documents such as identification, insurance and bank records
Emergency plan (http://www.getprepared.gc.ca/cnt/plns/mk-pln-en.aspx) — include a copy in your kit as well as contact information
Consider these additional emergency kit supplies:
Two additional litres of water per person per day for cooking and cleaning
Candles and matches or lighter (place in sturdy containers and do not burn unattended)
Change of clothing and footwear for each household member
Sleeping bag or warm blanket for each household member
Toiletries and personal hygiene items
Hand sanitizer, toilet paper and garbage bags
Prepaid phone card, mobile phone charger
Pet food and supplies
Infant formula, baby food and supplies
Activities for children like books, puzzles or toys
Prescription medications, medical equipment
Utensils, plates and cups
Household chlorine bleach or water purifying tablets
Basic tools (hammer, pliers, wrench, screwdrivers, work gloves, pocket knife)
Small fuel-operated stove and fuel
Whistle (to attract attention)
Duct tape

racedo
22nd Aug 2016, 18:55
Preppers World

DroneDog
22nd Aug 2016, 19:33
I suspect there may be more to this, the firm I work for has a base there.

Anyhow a few days ago on ZDF (one of their TV channels) the news reported 2nd news item - "that the German gov were considering holding military exercises in major cities" but it was all played down as "an exercise", odd I thought as the Germans are still very embarrassed about the 'second misunderstanding' and tend to shy away from anything military. Then I read on twitter the German government is stockpiling fresh water and food for 10 days...

Then today this announcement about how its good practice in Germany to store emergency rations etc etc civil duty and all that.

really.....

Peter-RB
23rd Aug 2016, 06:13
Well , could it be Vlad the Impaler is looking at being adventurous again, It seems their is possibly a build up East of the Ukraine...but dont worry its only an exercise, but then the majority of the BAOR are coming home as well...so possibly mixed messages with crossed wires..Eh.. :eek:

Kelly Hopper
23rd Aug 2016, 06:50
Not just Germany. In UK they say a month worth!
Stock up on canned food for stock market crash, warns former Gordon Brown adviser | UK Politics | News | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/stock-up-on-canned-food-for-stock-market-crash-warns-former-gordon-brown-adviser-10469509.html)

rusty sparrow
23rd Aug 2016, 06:55
A successful terrorist/hostile state hack to the national grid in the UK would make you thankful for emergency supplies - the Ukraine grid was hacked https://www.wired.com/2016/03/inside-cunning-unprecedented-hack-ukraines-power-grid/

ArthurR
23rd Aug 2016, 08:17
Not heard anything about that here in Bayern.

alwayzinit
23rd Aug 2016, 08:33
Having a contingency plan is always a good idea. We have contingency fuel when at work, I presume nobody thinks that that is irrational.
The winter of '63-64 in the UK was tough. As a small lad I remember the deep snow, yippee!, and my Dad making an Igloo out of snow blocks. This was in Hampshire in the normally mild Southern part of England.
What, at the time, I had missed was that we were forced to cook on our log fire and have candles etc as the power was out for more than a few days.
We were fortunate as my Dad has made a religion of "Covering the downside" and we had a stash of Baked Beans and other tinned stuff plus a load of rice.
Now I am in no way advocating the wholesale conversion to Prepping, but having a modest "insurance" stash can't hurt, especially for those who live in an urban setting.
Now why the German Gov has issued these instructions is another matter................

DroneDog
23rd Aug 2016, 09:04
All I could find was this and not the ZDF story, the ZDF story had a pics of military hardware in a German city.

The news about emergency supplies has been all over the news yesterday.

Joint police and military anti-terror exercises planned in Germany | Germany | DW.COM | 29.07.2016 (http://www.dw.com/en/joint-police-and-military-anti-terror-exercises-planned-in-germany/a-19437553)

and

http://www.dw.com/en/report-exercises-for-military-deployment-in-germany-expected-to-start-soon/a-19489424

NutLoose
23rd Aug 2016, 09:15
Not heard anything about that here in Bayern. Ahhh, you must be expendable then and at the forefront when the hoards of whomever arrive, no point in wasting good food! :p

There is collateral damage in any action, and you appear to be it. :p

Loose rivets
23rd Aug 2016, 12:47
Possible reintroduction of Conscription? At this time, 'for civil defence' is being mooted. Mmm . . . one is not free of apprehension.


I'm so concerned about Vlad that I haven't put Kaspersky back on my PC. I've voiced my fears on the computer section, but just think - one man could shut down what, millions? of computers in the free world in the blink of an eye.

jolihokistix
23rd Aug 2016, 14:56
Many in Japan keep the bathwater in the tub at least until the following morning morning. Surprisingly useful for flushing bogs, etc.

(Poison in the water supply was another thing that the US has occasionally been worried about.)

treadigraph
23rd Aug 2016, 15:24
Off for a visit to Penzance in ten days time, must remember to pop into Healey's and bring back a good supply of Cornish Rattler cider! Just in case you understand... no, really...

jolihokistix
23rd Aug 2016, 15:26
Japanese govt reaction to the same circular?

Japan to train personnel to counter cyberattacks on infrastructure ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion (http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/japan-to-train-personnel-to-counter-cyberattacks-on-infrastructure)

DroneDog
23rd Aug 2016, 18:08
Not heard anything about that here in Bayern.

Ahhh, you must be expendable then and at the forefront when the hoards of whomever arrive, no point in wasting good food!

There is collateral damage in any action, and you appear to be it.



Don't tell him your name Pike!

fitliker
23rd Aug 2016, 18:24
Conscription might be a good thing for Germany and the rest of Europe.
Will they just conscript males or will females be allowed equal opportunity to do their part ? Will they conscript previously exempt groups and allow them to form their own regiments or will they be forced to do something that they were historically exempt from doing ?

Cazalet33
23rd Aug 2016, 18:31
Conscription might be a good thing for Germany and the rest of Europe.

That sounds familiar. How did it work last time .... and the time before last?

I presume the Turks will be on the German side next time too.

Which side will the Murricanes be on for the first half of the game? How 'bout the Irish in the second half and after the whistle? Always a difficult call, that one.

G-CPTN
23rd Aug 2016, 19:05
Plenty of young healthy immigrants.

FakePilot
23rd Aug 2016, 19:49
Quote:
Conscription might be a good thing for Germany and the rest of Europe.
That sounds familiar. How did it work last time .... and the time before last?

I presume the Turks will be on the German side next time too.

Which side will the Murricanes be on for the first half of the game? How 'bout the Irish in the second half and after the whistle? Always a difficult call, that one.

How about we don't side. That way we could have the United Socialist Scottish Republic. East London also has a nice ring. Or perhaps membership in the Dublin Pact would suffice.

ORAC
23rd Aug 2016, 20:11
I presume the Turks will be on the German side next time too.

Erdogan floods Germany with spies for new ‘Stasi’ network (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/erdogan-floods-germany-with-spies-for-new-stasi-network/news-story/183a2718ea75b93b679a5447ecbfdf54)

radarman
23rd Aug 2016, 21:01
Didn't Merkel, Hollande and the Italian PM (it's late and I can't be bothered to look up his name) meet on an aircraft carrier yesterday to discuss the way forward for the EU after Brexit? If I remember correctly (again, can't be bothered to look it up) one of the things they agreed the EU should concentrate on was defence. In which case why is it only the Germans who have been advised to lay in emergency stocks? Why haven't Hollande and the Italian guy bothered to tell the French and Italians to stock up on frogs' legs and macaroni?

ArthurR
23rd Aug 2016, 21:13
Nutloose,
There is collateral damage in any action, and you appear to be it.
Its been tried before, didn't work then, don't expect it to work now.

chuks
24th Aug 2016, 10:18
So far this is just an idea that has been floated by the Minister for the Interior, who's in the CDU, the ruling center-right party, along with reinstating compulsory military service. There's a lot of push-back from the Left, of course, so that it's not a done deal, yet.

DroneDog
24th Aug 2016, 14:11
Two dubious rumour sites are suggesting the Czech gov are warning their citizens to stock up. Hype or should I be buying water....

onetrack
24th Aug 2016, 14:18
Sounds to me like the Germans have intelligence about a serious terrorist attack that will knock out a lot of their infrastructure - and maybe cause a lot of deaths.
Electricity is the major thing that no nation can survive without, or even function properly, for very long.
If I was living in Germany I would be seriously concerned about what is behind this warning.

sitigeltfel
24th Aug 2016, 14:44
Every society has its tipping point and Germany must be well on its way towards it. At what point will the populace turn round and say, "we've had enough".

The problem is, when that point has been reached, history shows that things escalate out of control extremely quickly.

"May you live in interesting times"

ArthurR
24th Aug 2016, 20:00
sitigeltfel (http://www.pprune.org/members/172127-sitigeltfel)


"May you live in interesting times"


Do you read Terry Pratchett ?

DroneDog
24th Aug 2016, 20:50
My guess is a huge cyber attack disabling many system electrical supply being the main one which in turn will kill pretty much everything else. Including police...interesting times for Germany.

John Hill
24th Aug 2016, 21:21
I should erect a HF antenna and get all batteries charged. Maybe the effects of ionosphere on HF propagation will return to the way it was before all those chemtrailers.

meadowrun
25th Aug 2016, 00:16
should I be buying water?


Not unless your tap water is dismal.
Get some good potable water containers and fill them. Having a kit in place is always a good idea for any type of emergency. You never know.

Peter-RB
25th Aug 2016, 06:26
I spoke with my darling Mrs R-B yesterday whilst taking the last of the Suns rays..about this seemingly strange suggestion of the Germans to have at least tens days rations and liquids available at any one time, after a few minutes her responce was, "you will need to buy a few bottle of Fizz and a Gin for youself"...
she had no clue why I was larfing like a drain..obviously she is on another plain altogether..!!;)