BA 747 and 777 trainers

[baldric]

Did you know that BALPA are renegotiating your training agreement, apparantly there will only be one type of training Captain. All route trainers and checkers will have to become one of these and do simuator too. This will not sit too well I guess with the European Commuters as it will eat a lot of the 91 days up.
Unless you write in you will find it another BALPA done deal where a couple of the reps stick a few more feathers into their own nest at the cost of a lot of other people. A la regional deals.

[Captain Airclues]

baldric

This has been under discussion now for over a year, and there is a long way to go before any new deal is finalised. The proposals and various options have been put to all training and route checkers meetings. I suggest that you ask BALPA for the latest situation (if you are a member) as I don't think that the reps will respond here, given the tone of your post.

Airclues

[Carruthers]

Don't give unions control of your contract.

[baldric]

Sorry. My mate says they (checkers and route trainers) are all retireing in the next two years. So they arn't too bothered. I just thought it would have been important to the French commuters as these were plum jobs for them. Guess its like the pension- if it doesnt hurt the individual then its gonna be accepted.

[yotter]

I find it a sad reflection of the state of mind of senior people in BA that they are complaining about being made up to full IRE/TRE
( plus an appointment pay increase from 12 to 17.5% ) . There must be many outside Big Airways who would jump at the chance - let's be honest, it almost guarantees employment - but then it's always different on the outside looking in.

[Hand Solo]

What if you happen to enjoy flying and don't relish the prospect of spending a whole month doing sim sessions? I suspect a 5% rise in basic will barely cover the loss of flying pay during the month you're grounded. Its also a bad move for the guys who dont live near LHR who'll now have to drive to work 20 times each month instead of 5.

[Captain Airclues]

Hand Solo

I suggest that you study the proposals before you comment. Under the new agreement there would be no such thing as a 'sim month'. I'm sure that any management pilot, TSC or BALPA rep would be happy to discuss the negotiations with you, and then you will be able to make an informed comment. As the negotiations are still ongoing, it is inappropriate to discuss the details on a pubic forum.

Airclues

[P22]

yotter

The problem is that the senior route checkers who live in France do not pay either French or UK Income Tax. As their salaries are well into six figures, a TRE qualification could cost them £40,000+ per year if they had to spend too much time in the UK.

[yotter]

Hand Solo & P22:
I realise there are quite a number tax exiles on the BA longhaul fleets, but it seems to me a wonderful chance to expand horizons and almost guarantee employment for 10 years for the ones that need it after retirement. I wish it had been available when I was a checker as I wasn't clever enough to pass the training interview!

[maxy101]

If only it were as simple as that Yotter! You didn't get the phone call the night before then?