Safety of Singapore Airlines

[kalinorbok]

Hello,

I've been reading on this forum for quite some time now, but this is the first time I ask a question.
My question is about the safety of Singapore Airlines.
I fly the leg FRA-SIN-SYD and SYD-SIN-FRA twice a month. Normally I choose Singapore Airlines or Lufthansa.
I have also used Qantas for the final step to Sydney.

In recent times I am a bit concerned about flying Singapore Airlines because
of the incident last year where the engines of a SIA A333 lost thrust, because of the incident where the nosewheel of a A333 collapses and finally because of the engine and wing fire last month.

Singapore Airlines does not seem to comment on these incidents/accidents and that concerns me. I could not find a report about the A333 thrust incident last year.

So could you please tell me whether SIA is still safe and good to fly or should I rather take Lufthansa next month?

Thank you guys

[Ancient Observer]

Quite simply, they both have excellent safety records, and both take safety very seriously.

[Heathrow Harry]

Certainly the best of the Asian airlines and right up there with the best in the world

[alserire]

Have flown both multiple times and would have no concerns about either.

[S.o.S.]

Hi kalinorbok and welcome to the 'cabin'. There are a number of sites that give statistical data about airline safety and the key points are to look at the long story. If, for example, a carrier adds lots of extra aircraft and destinations, then they might have a higher incident rate - simply because they are operating more flights, not because they are getting less safe.

As to this particular event, you may find that the thread on the 'front page' of Rumours & News does carry a lot of good information, despite the folks who are shouting at each other! One key aspect is social culture of the carrier and it's owners, which is very different to major American carriers, for example.

I hope you stay and continue to share the forum.

[Stanwell]

Following on from S.o.S.'s good advice, you might like to know that one particular website, airlineratings.com, has been
the subject of discussion, in the past, among PPRuNers - with regard to its objectivity (or lack of).

[Mr Mac]

Kalinorbok
As other have said they are both excellent carriers (I currently only use EK/SQ/LH for Business) and I am a regular passenger with them. I would not hesitate to get on one of their AC and have never had issues with any crew or performance of these carriers unlike other well known legacy carriers I could mention.


Regards
Mr Mac

[kalinorbok]

Thanks guys for all the answers.
Guess I can feel comfortable while flying SIA! :)

[andycba]

Based on the lack of evacuation in the engine and wing fire incident, I have Singapore Airlines on my no-fly list for business travel until more information on the decision making process has been made available.

I am not going to travel on an airline that actively blocks evacuation and keeps pax in seats with seatbelts fastened when flames are raging right outside with the danger of fuselage breach and toxic smoke and fumes quickly filling the cabin.

[parabellum]

I am not going to travel on an airline that actively blocks evacuation and keeps pax in seats with seatbelts fastened when flames are raging right outside with the danger of fuselage breach and toxic smoke and fumes quickly filling the cabin.


Even if it saves your life? The whole point is the cabin wasn't breached and had it been those available doors would have been opened by cabin staff in the blink of an eye.

[easyflyer83]

Absolutely. Evacuating is inherently dangerous.

[DaveReidUK]

Even if it saves your life? The whole point is the cabin wasn't breached and had it been those available doors would have been opened by cabin staff in the blink of an eye.

No, it's not "the whole point" by any means.

If it was, we wouldn't have a 700-post thread running in Rumours and News debating whether or not the crew made the right decision. :ugh:

Sometimes things just aren't as simple as that.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/580854-sia-plane-catches-fire.html

[S.o.S.]

PPRuNe has a rule to only have a topic discuss in one thread. So if you want to comment on SIA in general, please comment. If you want to discuss the recent fire at SIN, please follow the link that DRUK gave.

However do read the thread BEFORE you comment as it has already been covered from every single angle and you will find all possible arguments there. I have read it so I know.

[Dora-9]

Singapore Airlines does not seem to comment on these incidents/accidents and that concerns me.

Having being associated with them for several years, one very disappointing aspect of SIA is their paranoid secrecy when it comes to accident/incident reports. They're generally only promulgated amongst senior management. Sharing them with line crews so they can learn something - forget it!.

[PAXboy]

May one think, Dora-9, that the grapevine may pass information and experience around the crews? Even if that does not make it to the open air.

[parabellum]

If it was, we wouldn't have a 700-post thread running in Rumours and News debating whether or not the crew made the right decision. :ugh:


Bang your head all you like David, I had ten years with them and I believe that had there been the slightest sign of smoke in the cabin those LHS doors would have been opened without delay or instruction. We used to do our SEP training with the cabin crew, in the cabin simulator.


Of the 700 posts on the R&N thread I would suggest that less than half come from people who know what they are talking about.

[DaveReidUK]

Of the 700 posts on the R&N thread I would suggest that less than half come from people who know what they are talking about.

Doubtless once more information becomes available, we'll know which half. :O

[andycba]

@parabellum

"Bang your head all you like David, I had ten years with them and I believe that had there been the slightest sign of smoke in the cabin those LHS doors would have been opened without delay or instruction."

The problem is that initiating evacuation once the hull has been breached and smoke pouring into the cabin is likely to be too late to be effective. By then the poisonous gas will be working its effect.

[Basil]

I have read it so I know.
Bally heck! Rather you than me. ;)

[S.o.S.]

Thank you Basil. It's all part of the sacrifice that I make for the Cabin. [cannot locate a suitably angelic smiley] :}

Seriously, the debate about what was/should have been done is in the main forum. A more general view of SIA is welcome in here. What is not in doubt is that we are not going to hear very much for some time.

[Rush2112]

I fly SQ a lot and have never had any qualms about their safety record. They have had a couple of recent incidents and from a PR perspective they may have handled them better but in general here solid information can be elusive.