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meadowrun
17th Jun 2016, 20:26
So far, it seems most of the attention has been on fighting in the streets and now flares on the field stopping the match.
Russia sent in a contingent of a few hundred more or less paramilitary thugs who seem to have trained specifically for this event. Other countries have sent in the usual boozed up thug types, all with the primary purpose of bloodletting before even thinking about the games.


The focus has been primarily on the fighting not the love of the game for many and is a disturbing trend and a pan-European problem because every country seems to have contingents of the mindless brawlers. This is not what the game is all about and although riots have occurred with other sports, it seems to be a particular problem for soccer. This growing trend leaves a bad taste.

ExXB
17th Jun 2016, 20:29
Is there a football competition on then? I hadn't noticed.

clareprop
17th Jun 2016, 20:48
Right-wing thugs sponsored by governments who are upset with sanctions or revelations about corruption. Boycotting the world cup would be a start.

Seldomfitforpurpose
17th Jun 2016, 20:56
World Cup 2018 in Russia, not sure that is going to end well.

cavortingcheetah
17th Jun 2016, 21:25
Rightwing thugs?
Fascists were National Socialists, just leftwing with a different flavour.

Tankertrashnav
18th Jun 2016, 00:14
This right wing/left wing business has always puzzled me, ultimately there's no difference. Go far enough in either direction and you meet the other lot coming round the other way. I always thought the most enthusiastic members of the anti-Nazi league (remember them?) would have been shouting Sieg Heil the loudest at the Nurnberg rallies if they had been around then.

Martin the Martian
18th Jun 2016, 12:53
If I had the means and the enthusiasm to follow England at various tournaments I would be seriously considering not going to Russia in two years' time. Chances are I would get attacked by some bandana-wearing thug, then beaten and arrested by the police for inciting it before facing charges in a biased court. If I didn't end up in hospital, that is.

megan
18th Jun 2016, 18:37
What is it about soccer? It seems where ever the game is played (here in Australia as well) the mob plays up with flares, brawling etc. Not a feature of our other sports.

Tankertrashnav
19th Jun 2016, 00:09
Much the same here. In rugby (both codes) the fighting is pretty much confined to on the field ;)

Meanwhile George Orwell, as always, had it nailed. This from his essay The Sporting Spirit (1945)

Now that the brief visit of the Dynamo football team has come to an end, it is possible to say publicly what many thinking people were saying privately before the Dynamos ever arrived. That is, that sport is an unfailing cause of ill-will, and that if such a visit as this had any effect at all on Anglo-Soviet relations, it could only be to make them slightly worse than before.
Even the newspapers have been unable to conceal the fact that at least two of the four matches played led to much bad feeling. At the Arsenal match, I am told by someone who was there, a British and a Russian player came to blows and the crowd booed the referee. The Glasgow match, someone else informs me, was simply a free-for-all from the start. And then there was the controversy, typical of our nationalistic age, about the composition of the Arsenal team. Was it really an all-England team, as claimed by the Russians, or merely a league team, as claimed by the British? And did the Dynamos end their tour abruptly in order to avoid playing an all-England team? As usual, everyone answers these questions according to his political predilections. Not quite everyone, however. I noted with interest, as an instance of the vicious passions that football provokes, that the sporting correspondent of the russophile News Chronicle took the anti-Russian line and maintained that Arsenal was not an all-England team. No doubt the controversy will continue to echo for years in the footnotes of history books. Meanwhile the result of the Dynamos' tour, in so far as it has had any result, will have been to create fresh animosity on both sides.
And how could it be otherwise? I am always amazed when I hear people saying that sport creates goodwill between the nations, and that if only the common peoples of the world could meet one another at football or cricket, they would have no inclination to meet on the battlefield. Even if one didn't know from concrete examples (the 1936 Olympic Games, for instance) that international sporting contests lead to orgies of hatred, one could deduce it from general principles.

Nothing new then!

er340790
20th Jun 2016, 03:10
Oh, pish! Orwell was a manic depressive who could never stop whining! I bet he never felt the massive rush as your team scores a late-winner against a far better team, or the animal joy as a group of their supporters breaks and runs as you chase them out of town....

OH YES! IT'S ALL COMIN' BACK!!! :oh: :O :oh: :oh: :O

Peter-RB
20th Jun 2016, 09:38
Wrong shaped ball..sadly same with the fans:ok:

Sallyann1234
20th Jun 2016, 10:12
World Cup 2018 in Russia, not sure that is going to end well.
How much was the bribe to get that job?

Cazalet33
20th Jun 2016, 15:14
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Tankertrashnav
20th Jun 2016, 15:41
Oh, pish! Orwell was a manic depressive who could never stop whining!

He was quite happy when he had a nice cup of tea. Or in his favourite imaginary pub "The Moon Under Water", although I concede that a visit to one of the chain of present day pubs of the same name would probably have him whining again!

Shack37
20th Jun 2016, 17:22
He was quite happy when he had a nice cup of tea. Or in his favourite imaginary pub "The Moon Under Water", although I concede that a visit to one of the chain of present day pubs of the same name would probably have him wining again!


Fixed it for you (-:

Tankertrashnav
20th Jun 2016, 17:41
Somehow cant see Orwell with a glass of wine - pint of mild or bitter, yes, but as a dedicated Anglophile, wine would not be one of his tipples - more of a CAMRA member I'd reckon.

Fifty years on from now Britain will still be the country of long shadows on cricket grounds, warm beer ... and old maids bicycling to holy communion through the morning mist.

Often attributed to John Major, by journalists who know nothing!

tj916
20th Jun 2016, 18:04
http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a9Yb6Bj_460s.jpg

Nice one Cazelet. I will be watching England tonight.

But one of the many reasons I love bike racing is you don't seem to get this racist crap.

Just loads of talented Guys and Girls trying their best for themselves and their Country