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vctenderness
15th Jun 2016, 18:57
Having watched all of the debates on the EU referendum one thing puzzles me.

Why is there always at least one incredibly gobby person in the audience?

I have watched BBC, ITV, SKY and in every case the camera rest upon one person who shouts and rants, mostly against the leave speaker, whereas the calm and reasonable contributor gets thirty seconds of air time.

I guess they think it makes good viewing however my opinion is it alienates people who may have been otherwise engaged.

:ugh:

ORAC
15th Jun 2016, 19:17
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Gertrude the Wombat
15th Jun 2016, 19:49
Why is there always at least one incredibly gobby person in the audience?
'Cos that's the standard format so the producer instructs the researcher to find one and make sure they turn up?

UniFoxOs
16th Jun 2016, 06:20
Why is there always at least one incredibly gobby person in the audience?

And usually one on the panel as well, who wants to shout the others down.

I never watch these political debates on TV. As well as being totally predictable - e.g. the "fors" will never admit that the "againsts" have any validity to any point, and vice versa, one gets the impression that the audience have been specially selected for their intransigence. Some of the late evening ones appear to have an audience collected from outside pubs as they shut.

B Fraser
16th Jun 2016, 06:35
Here's a plastic paddy putting his "remain" viewpoint to the working classes....


Step forward Mr Gob Beldof.


http://nme.assets.ipccdn.co.uk/images/2016_FarageVGeldof_GettyImages540302350_150616.article_x4.jp g

Trossie
16th Jun 2016, 07:02
B Fraser, an excellent spoonerism!!

Ah yes, the champagne-socialist elite using their oodles of money to hire a pleasure boat to shouting down common sense and logic again. (Do you think that most of them know where fish actually come from? Other than the fish counter at Waitrose or M&S, that is...)

sitigeltfel
16th Jun 2016, 07:28
(Do you think that most of them know where fish actually come from? Other than the fish counter at Waitrose or M&S, that is...)

I doubt they would sully themselves at such plebeian places. It's Fortnums or Harrods for them!

B Fraser
16th Jun 2016, 08:17
B Fraser, an excellent spoonerism!!


Gob Beldof is a shining wit.

Effluent Man
16th Jun 2016, 08:17
It's quite informative to study the faces on the Geldof boat. All metropolitan types. I doubt if any of them ever spends less than fifty quid on dinner. Meanwhile the minimum wage or less restaurant staff bow and scrape to these celebs.

And I don't accept the point that the natives don't want these jobs, it's merely a matter of recompense. If you hail from some of the Eastern Europe countries seven quid an hour probably equates to twenty in employment terms. If you offered 20 here the queue would be round the block. Hell I would probably be in it.

funfly
16th Jun 2016, 09:51
And usually one on the panel as well, who wants to shout the others down.
I never watch these political debates on TV.

I never have drunk guiness in my life because it tastes horrible!:(

Pontius Navigator
16th Jun 2016, 10:28
I admit to having difficulty identifying the wit, until I realised it was the long haired blonde in the stripes blouse.

alwayzinit
16th Jun 2016, 11:21
Trying to be absolutely objective about the "Battle of the Thames".
On one hand we have representatives of the British Fishing Industry, who have to throw perfectly edible fish back, whether dead or alive, if they do not match the EU Quota species. Have had to stop fishing in the UK's own waters to allow boats from other EU countries access and have seen their industry shrivel to a fraction of its pre EEC/EU size.

On the other we have a multi millionaire Effing and jeffing and hurling abuse whilst surrounded by what appears to be a bunch of Hooray Henries and Henriettas. Mr (Sir) Bob G's claim to fame was to scream "Give us your F**king Money" and to have had some musical success 40 years ago. He has become the very picture of the champagne socialist. To imagine he has any clue about the issues effecting the men and women of the UK Fishing Industry is laughable.

Gertrude the Wombat
16th Jun 2016, 11:32
B(Do you think that most of them know where fish actually come from? Other than the fish counter at Waitrose or M&S, that is...)
I know!


Baby fish come from mummy and daddy fish.


If you catch all the mummy and daddy fish there won't be any more baby fish.


So the people who want to catch all the mummy and daddy fish today and don't give a shit about next year or ten years' time have to be regulated.


Simples.

Tankertrashnav
16th Jun 2016, 14:02
Mr (Sir) Bob G's claim to fame was to scream ...

Right first time. As he is not a UK or Commonwealth citizen, Geldof is not entitled to be called "Sir Bob". The late Sir Terry Wogan, on the other hand became a British citizen and was thus entitled to be called "Sir Terry".

Not that I'd call Geldof "Sir Bob" in any case!

I'm an "in" voter, but if anything would make me waver from my position it's that picture. I know some Cornish fishermen and they have a valid point, and the EU Fisheries Policy really does need a thorough overhaul.

MOSTAFA
16th Jun 2016, 14:22
And you know, unless we do something about it; that ain't going to happen any time soon, as a boy in Cornwall I remember with joy my visits to Newlyn and the fisherman last year it looked a thoroughly depressed fishing village.

Trossie
16th Jun 2016, 15:15
If you catch all the mummy and daddy fish there won't be any more baby fish.You mean, like all those crooked Spanish fishermen over-fishing in British waters. (And I am going on what I've heard from fish protection pilots.)

Shame, then Gob Beldof and all his Hooray Henries and Henriettas will have to have the fish for their posh restaurants flown in from more exotic places.

Trossie
16th Jun 2016, 15:16
...the EU Fisheries Policy really does need a thorough overhaul.So why hasn't it been overhauled?

Tankertrashnav
16th Jun 2016, 15:22
No, you are quite right, Mostafa and Trossie. I fully admit that the EU is far from perfect, and both the CAP and the Fisheries Policy are examples of where it is just not working.

vulcanised
16th Jun 2016, 16:35
I fully admit that the EU is far from perfect


So far, it's out of sight.

yellowtriumph
16th Jun 2016, 16:50
I notice that Bob Geldorf seems to share the same hatter as Jeremy Corbyn.

And when is he going to honour his public promise to let 3 Syrian refugee families settle into his three homes in London and Kent?

vctenderness
16th Jun 2016, 17:37
Bob the Gob proves my point:ok:

andytug
16th Jun 2016, 18:42
State of modern "debate" today I'm afraid. People drip fed a diet of soundbites, tabloid news and heavily edited "reality TV" don't want reasoned debate, they want to shout until they get their own way. If they can do it behind a cloak of anonymity on the Net, even better.
I always thought the purpose of a debate was to persuade others of your point of view by rationally questioning and refuting facts as required , now it's just to shout any opposition down and flat out lie if necessary just to win.