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crazy_max
28th Jun 2002, 09:20
A friend got an invite for an interview with Cathay this following month in New York. It is for the Cargo fleet based in JFK. Does anyone know more details about this?
Would he be ignoring the ban set by the Union? Or is the ban only for the jobs in HK with the passenger fleet?
Do they have any jump seat agreements with US airlines for commuting from Canada or other cities in the US or Caribean?
HELP.

runaway
28th Jun 2002, 13:39
Like frankg said the ban refers to all CP operations, if you do get in, you'll be banned by various unions !

Ze German
28th Jun 2002, 19:12
But still they come.......

Airport Train
29th Jun 2002, 02:10
The ban is being honored in N America. Lots of letters of support from would be candidates that can see further than the end of the week. A chat with the CX station staff at JFK should sort out anyone who's comtemplating joining the airline who's CEO has just finished writing a book entitled "From First to Worst".

pjh
5th Jul 2002, 12:33
Why are current cathay pilots taking commands and yet wanting no-one to take up the position they vacate? If they wanted to hurt the company, maybe saying no to promotions would give more credence to their objections to new recruits?:cool:

6feetunder
5th Jul 2002, 12:36
Ah the burning question!! It's been asked and answered many times over the last year. Call or email the AOA and ask them, Hong Kong Aircrew Officers Association ([email protected])

BMM389EC
5th Jul 2002, 16:44
6 feetunder, I beg to differ- that question has been side stepped many times this year. Still no answer. Contacting the AOA does also not achieve anything- I was told they do not have time to answer my e-mail when I asked that specific question.

pjh
5th Jul 2002, 23:48
Why are current cathay pilots taking commands and yet wanting no-one to take up the position they vacate? If they wanted to hurt the company, maybe saying no to promotions would give more credence to their objections to new recruits?:cool:

Seriph
6th Jul 2002, 20:23
If you want a job then go for it, what business is it of the union.

Jump Complete
12th Jul 2002, 16:23
I tend to agree with Seriph, there. If you go in knowing there's potential for problems but are prepared to risk that / accept them, isn't that ones own business?
Incidently, what are Catheys requirements for First and Second Officers?

6feetunder
13th Jul 2002, 22:05
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 9 July 2002

Contract Abuse Must Stop To End Nine-Year Dispute

HONG KONG – The Hong Kong Aircrew Officers Association (HKAOA), the representative body for Cathay Pacific’s 1,600 pilots, today said that Cathay Pacific’s continuing abuse of its pilots’ contracts has turned the airline from a career airline into a contract airline. It also called for an end to contract abuse by the airline if the management wants to end the dispute.

Contract airlines, mostly the low cost carriers, function with short-term contracts for its pilots. Career airlines follow a different model with a seniority system to encourage the world’s best pilots to join for ‘lifetime’ careers. Through its mass sacking last year, pilots at Cathay Pacific are now effectively on a three-month contract.

“It is a tremendous shame that Cathay Pacific is only paying lip service to being a career airline,” said John Findlay, General Secretary of the HKAOA. “Its unilateral change to contract terms, continued intimidation of pilots and the mass sackings quite clearly show that they do not want to maintain their reputation for hiring the world’s best pilots.”

“If Cathay stops this contractual abuse, this dispute can end tomorrow. It is entirely up to Mr Turnbull and his colleagues,” continued Mr Findlay. “We are willing to meet at any time to discuss these issues in an open and transparent manner. We are willing to abide by the findings of an independent mediator.”

“We urge Mr Turnbull to consider this proposition and not to reject our request again,” he said. Mr Findlay was commenting today at the end of the HKAOA’s Extraordinary General Meeting (EGM), held on the first anniversary of Cathay Pacific’s unjustified mass sacking of 49 pilots on 9th July 2001.

The sacking of the 49ers, who were fired by Cathay Pacific in an attempt to bust the union and intimidate its employees into submission, marked a new low in the nine year long dispute between the pilots and Cathay Pacific management.

Today at the EGM, the HKAOA’s members again voted to continue their support of the 49ers and their two colleagues who were sacked by Cathay Pacific one year ago.

Despite statements last year by Cathay Pacific’s senior managers that the dispute was over, it continues into its ninth year and support for the 49ers remains strong.

“This vote is a message to David Turnbull and his colleagues, that their union busting tactics failed a year ago, and they are still failing today,” added John Findlay.

Cathay Pacific’s management has rejected repeated requests by the HKAOA to meet to resolve the dispute, including recently a request to introduce an independent mediator.

The 49ers include four of the union’s seven negotiators, and a disproportionately large number of current and past union committee members.

About the HKAOA

The Hong Kong Aircrew Officers Association (HKAOA) was established in 1963 to represent the interests of pilots and flight engineers employed by Cathay Pacific Airways. Its objectives are to protect and further the interests of the aircrew profession and to safeguard and improve the interests and rights of members of the association. HKAOA is the representative group for the 1,600 pilots of Cathay Pacific Airways. The HKAOA is represented internationally by the Hong Kong Airline Pilots’ Association (HKALPA), a member of the International Federation of Airline Pilots’ Association (IFALPA). IFALPA comprises some 95
Member Associations and represents 114,000 pilots around the world.

For further information, please see Hong Kong Aircrew Officers Association (http://bbs.hkalpa.org)
and contact:
Gavin Anderson & Co (HK)
Ross Hughes Laurence Cook
Mobile (852) 9863 6514 Mobile: (852) 9221 3394
Tel: (852) 2218 9922 Tel: (852) 2218 9933
E-mail: [email protected]
E-mail: [email protected]