Daily Mail strikes again

[Finningley Boy]

Sold for scrap - Britain's last working aircraft carrier: HMS Illustrious the final surviving warship from the Falklands War is heading for the junkyard | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3578289/Sold-scrap-Britain-s-working-aircraft-carrier-HMS-Illustrious-final-surviving-warship-Falklands-War-heading-junkyard.html)

I was under the impression that the two carriers which took part in the Falklands Campaign were; Hermes and Invincible!?!

FB:)

[Martin the Martian]

I love reading the comments section on Daily Mail pages. You could even make a drinking game out of it.

[Kitbag]

I love reading the comments section on Daily Mail pages.

Tryed itt wunce, I ketp havving th erge too kerrect th speling

[PersonFromPorlock]

The important thing is to have some entertaining filler to space out the ads.

[Lima Juliet]

Lusty was hurriedly finished to be relief in place for Vince in late summer '82. So she did go to the Falklands but 2 months after the surrender in June 1982.

[Courtney Mil]

I don't normally go near the Mail these days for a number of reasons, but, alerted by your post here, I pointed out to them that Lusty wasn't even commissioned until six days after the Falklands War ended. I got an email from the DM mods,

Please don`t try to introduce facts into DM stories, it can cause confusion !

Good answer, I thought.

[Wander00]

Saw the title and had hopes - strike at the Wail - that would be nice. But not just the spelling, it is the facts, or opinion dressed as fact. We have a friend who lost his wife and has a new partner who is a bit like a walking Daily Wail app. if you want to know what she will think - no, does not "think" - her opinion on any topic, look at the Wail. Depressing, he is a nice chap too.

[NutLoose]

No one has pointed out there are still some other surviving Warships.... Though they are in Argentina

[Hangarshuffle]

HMS Illustrious played a vital part in the defence of the FI in 1982. It was a conflict never really declared open or closed by the combatants-she served at a vital time. Sad she is going. Strange that we have good museums for tanks and aeroplanes but not one for warships. why is that? But the RN is many things including entirely being unsentimental.
Tow her out into the North Sea and torpedo her for practice. Please don't sell her for a few ******* cheap foreign shekels.

[Courtney Mil]

HMS Illustrious played a vital part in the defence of the FI in 1982

Yeah, indeed. But that wasn't the point about the article in the original post. The DM article described her as the last surviving warship of the Falklands War. As we saw her arrive in August that year we know the DM's reporting is, as usual, just plain wrong.

[Ken Scott]

Strange that we have good museums for tanks and aeroplanes but not one for warships. why is that?


HMS Belfast, Victory, Warrior, M33, Alliance? Shame that HMS Plymouth was scrapped but that perhaps shows the difficulty a private organisation has maintaining such an exhibit.

[walter kennedy]

What a great dive wreck and fish haven she would make in tge right lication - over the decades she would be worth well more than the salvage price in terms of recreatiinal diving and fishing - and people would remember her much as I remember the shios and U boats I have dived on.
HMS Belfast, Victory, Warrior, M33, Alliance? Shame that HMS Plymouth was scrapped but that perhaps shows the difficulty a private organisation has maintaining such an exhibit.

[Ken Scott]

HMS Scylla, the last Leander class frigate, was sunk in Whitsand Bay a short distance from Plymouth for that purpose and has become a popular dive site. Illustrious would require deeper water given her size so would perhaps be a more dangerous dive although it would be quite something to swim through the aircraft hangar......

[Tankertrashnav]

Also, as referred to on another thread recently, the newly restored HMS Caroline, the last survivor of the Battle of Jutland, will re-open to the public in Belfast after a ceremony to commemorate the centenary of the battle on 31st May.

The Royal Yacht Britannia is laid up at Leith and is open to the public. Not a warship of course, but a Royal Navy ship, nevertheless.

[MPN11]

Having last year visited the USS Missouri [BB-63, "The Mighty Mo] at Pearl Harbor is was quite clear that they were having great difficulty in keeping her in a decent condition. Some areas, particularly the upper deck planking, were in a pretty poor state.

https://ussmissouri.org

[Bob Viking]

I was on the Missouri last year and it looked pretty good. There were limited areas that were accessible though. USS Midway in San Diego is pretty well looked after. Again though not all areas are accessible. I guess with such big ships this is a common problem.

BV

[The Old Fat One]

Having last year visited the USS Missouri [BB-63, "The Mighty Mo] at Pearl Harbor is was quite clear that they were having great difficulty in keeping her in a decent condition.

Go visit the Minsk in Shenzen. Even the rust is rotten.

[reds & greens]

I once broke wind for so long and so loud, that my software recognition programme transcribed it as a full column for the DM...

[GeeRam]

HMS Belfast, Victory, Warrior, M33, Alliance?

HMS Gannet, HMS Cavalier & HMS Ocelot (the last warship to be built for the RN at Chatham) are all preserved at the Historic Dockyard at Chatham.

[PhilipG]

I thought that the Daily Wail would not be available tomorrow as it was On strike.... Sadly not the case

[PDR1]

Having last year visited the USS Missouri [BB-63, "The Mighty Mo] at Pearl Harbor is was quite clear that they were having great difficulty in keeping her in a decent condition. Some areas, particularly the upper deck planking, were in a pretty poor state.

https://ussmissouri.org

Are you sure? According to the documentary film "Battleship" it only took a couple of hours and a few vets to fire her up and take her into battle against aliens - apparently she still has live shells and powder bags on board...

:rolleyes:

PDR

[GGR155]

HMS Belfast, Victory, Warrior, M33, Alliance? Shame that HMS Plymouth was scrapped but that perhaps shows the difficulty a private organisation has maintaining such an exhibit.
As Ken says there are a few to be seen. For me HMS Belfast is a must when in London. I highly recommend a visit.
HMS Plymouth was a favourite too but after seeing her rusting in Birkenhead for years the end was the inevitable scrap yard.
GGR

[Finningley Boy]

Interesting posts, especially Reds and Greens incident with bloat, but its depressing just how much the press (ok the Daily Mail) can put together a sweepingly inaccurate headline without first checking, on google for instance, if they may have got their emotive claims right or not. They need to stop flapping about deadlines and take a second or two, all it takes these days, to verify something. I'll volunteer for the job, if the DM's interested.

FB:)

[Martin the Martian]

PDR1 said:

Are you sure? According to the documentary film "Battleship" it only took a couple of hours and a few vets to fire her up and take her into battle against aliens - apparently she still has live shells and powder bags on board...

Ssh, we might know that but we don't want THEM to know that.:=

[Background Noise]

Still, they have found the 'World's first ever vertical takeoff plane'

Check out the world's first ever vertical takeoff plane! | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1289476/Check-world-s-vertical-takeoff-plane.html)

[Rosevidney1]

Oh, do be charitable to the Fail for once. IF they had added the words 'electric powered' they would have been correct!

[teeteringhead]

Still, they have found the 'World's first ever vertical takeoff plane'
Surely one of these (not bad for the 1950s!) ......

http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M20d407843611f2a1da2292aa75f20a72o0&w=230&h=170&rs=1&pcl=dddddd&pid=1.1 http://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M8194d8c937e667766f336cd0d47b550bo0&w=230&h=170&rs=1&pcl=dddddd&pid=1.1
I think the Convair XFV (Pogo) on the left was the more successful, apparently doing some genuine VTOL flights.

The Lockheed XFY (Salmon) on the right I believe never flew vertically untethered.

Must have been sporting to land! :eek::eek::eek:

But perhaps the Bachem Ba 349 Natter has primacy - unmanned first flight in 1944, manned first flight :eek::eek::eek::eek:
in 1945!
http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mfd884dc3d4846bb92b29d8fa8c85c362o0&w=230&h=170&rs=1&pcl=dddddd&pid=1.1

But was that a "plane" (sic) or just a manned SAM.........

[Ken Scott]

But perhaps the Bachem Ba 349 Natter has primacy - unmanned first flight in 1944, manned first flight in 1945

I think that's a typo - should be 'Nutter'.