Aircraft parts found Reunion,Mosambique, and SA

[AreOut]

Johny Begue found a new object, close to the "beach" where he've found the flaperon in july

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccw0sWYW0AAxACw.jpg

what could this be?!

[Teddy Robinson]

Interesting item, unfortunately what the images don't show clearly is the nature of the "straight edge and indent" on the right side of the piece.

[susier]

I think the blue is too light, probably, for Malaysian. It's a shame there isn't a better res image so we could see the structure, but anyway it's just as likely to be from a boat.

[Teddy Robinson]

in fact, by altering the gamma value (NOT THE TONE OR COLOUR) the colour match is quite close. It is not just a blue, but a particular tone and temperature of blue. For the experts of course at the end of the day.

http://www.pprune.org/members/88632-teddy-robinson-albums-miscellaneous-picture226-colour-match-2.jpg

[Scuffers]

why is it these pictures are always way too low res/poor quality to make out anything?

Hell, the average phone take better pictures than this...

[lomapaseo]

There has to be an explanation of why a single amateur sleuth is finding pieces and not the folks spending millions searching.

[Slow and curious]

If all this wreckage this person keeps finding is genuine, he may have to do some explaining ...

[lapp]

From what I understand nobody is spending millions searching Reunion beaches. All what he has to do is comb the beach and if parts washed there because of prevailing currents he or anybody else can find them.

[Squawk_ident]

Try this link:
Johny Begue fait une nouvelle découverte - Faits-Divers - Journal de l'île de la Réunion (http://www.clicanoo.re/513601-johny-begue-fait-une-nouvelle-decouverte.html)

You can click to zoom and enlarge the pictures.

[172driver]

There has to be an explanation of why a single amateur sleuth is finding pieces and not the folks spending millions searching.

Because, his job is trash removal from the beaches there.

I've written this here before - someone should survey the beach communities on the African shores where wreckage can reasonably be expected to wash up. In these parts of the world, a solid piece of material makes for a perfect roof or other structure. I have worked in Africa for years and the ingenuity of the people there to re-purpose things is amazing.

[cwatters]

Looks like it has a honeycomb core.

[skadi]

This part was found on a beach in mosambique last december.


https://www.ecr.co.za/news-sport/news/exclusive-kzn-family-picks-possible-mh370-debris/

Anybody able to identify the number ( 676BB ? ) on that part.

skadi

[Benjane]

On an AerSale Boeing 777 part catalogue maintenance, under the part number 113W9250-12 (Fairing assy-sprt NO.2), one reads: POSITION DATA : OUTBD FLAP AFT RH SIDE ACESS PANEL NUMBER: 676EB . Unfortunately, it seems I can’t post images or weblink I have.

[skadi]

Anybody able to identify the number ( 676BB or 676EB ? ) on that part.

C80

[Dan Winterland]

676BB and 676EB are access panels on a flap support fairing from a Boeing 777.

[skadi]

676BB and 676EB are access panels on a flap support fairing from a Boeing 777.

Thank You very much, so this could be another part of MH370...

skadi

[Infieldg]

More pics here
MH370 Debris Storm (http://jeffwise.net/2016/03/10/mh370-debris-storm/)

[ACMS]

It's interesting that the pieces found so far are all parts of the flight controls/Flaps. Does this indicate they may have been deployed on touchdown on the water thus indicting a controlled landing attempt?

Mmmmm interesting...

[Teddy Robinson]

Whilst we (collectively) are not in a position to comment on it ...
There is a pattern in the various bits that have been found,
NO WAY I am I going to state my conclusion.
But there is a pattern.

[Airbubba]

It's interesting that the pieces found so far are all parts of the flight controls/Flaps. Does this indicate they may have been deployed on touchdown on the water thus indicting a controlled landing attempt?

Good point. Does this mean that the fuselage may have sunk somewhat intact and the other expected flotsam like seat cushions and life vests are not adrift to be found on a shoreline?

Or, are these honeycomb composite pieces all that survive a two year journey in the currents without decomposing or sinking?

[CONSO]

Or, are these honeycomb composite pieces all that survive a two year journey in the currents without decomposing or sinking?

and NO barnacles or algae or ???

[onetrack]

The ATSB has stated that the latest piece of MH370 wreckage found confirms high-speed impact with the ocean, thereby eliminating any conjecture about a controlled or low-speed water landing on the part of the pilot of MH370.

[_Phoenix]

Care to elaborate (link) these ATSB statements, please.

[Airbubba]

The ATSB has stated that the latest piece of MH370 wreckage found confirms high-speed impact with the ocean, thereby eliminating any conjecture about a controlled or low-speed water landing on the part of the pilot of MH370.

If so, must be late breaking news. Here's the update on the debris finds from three days ago, looks like the ATSB hadn't seen the objects at the time:

Joint Agency Coordination Centre MH370 Operational Search Update

9 March 2016

This operational report has been developed to provide regular updates on the progress of the search effort for MH370. Our work will continue to be thorough and methodical, so sometimes weekly progress may seem slow. Please be assured that work is continuing and is aimed at finding MH370 as quickly as possible.

Key developments this week

•Debris, suspected to be from an aircraft, was found in Mozambique. The Governments of Australia, Malaysia, and Mozambique are making arrangements for the debris to be transported to the Australian Transport Safety Bureau laboratories in Canberra. The debris will be examined by investigators from Australia and Malaysia, as well as specialists from Boeing, to confirm if it comes from an aircraft and if so, attempt to establish its origin.

•In addition, suspected aircraft debris was found on La Réunion. Negotiations are occurring with relevant authorities to arrange for examination of the debris.

Operational Update (http://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370-pages/updates/operational-update/)

[Passenger 389]

Aren't the three pieces found (if officially confirmed as being from the plane) all from the starboard side?

Seem to recall a working theory that if MH 370 ran out of fuel, the right engine would lose power first, which in turn would affect the manner and angle at which the plane impacted the ocean.

[testpanel]

Aren't the three pieces found (if officially confirmed as being from the plane) all from the starboard side?


Was thinking exactly the same the last few days.......

[Chronus]

The curious thing about this find is that apparently the South African teenager, Liam Lotter who fished it out of the water when he was on his hols, packed it up in his suitcase and took it home. That was back in December. Now why would anyone do that.

[Passenger 389]

The explanation given (per an Associated Press article - don't have the URL handy, so here's an excerpt):

It had rivet holes along the edge and the number 676EB stamped on it, convincing him he had found a piece of an aircraft. So he dragged the piece back to his family's vacation home.

* * * *

His parents dismissed it as a "piece of rubbish" that was probably debris from a boat, with his uncle making fun of him for dragging it around, but the 18-year-old insisted on bringing it back to South Africa to research the fragment.

"He was adamant he wanted to bring it home because it had a number on it," said Casper Lotter, adding that his son is not an aviation enthusiast but was simply drawn to the piece of debris.

"It just grabbed him for some weird reason," the father said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

Back home in Wartburg in KwaZulu-Natal province, the piece was stored with the family's angling gear and almost forgotten as Lotter focused on his final year in high school. His mother even tried to throw it out, he said.

It was only when Lotter read about another piece of possible debris from the missing airliner also found in Mozambique, about 186 miles (300 kilometers) from where he had made his discovery, that he resumed his probe.

"I was very shocked - Mozambique, similar color, similar area," the teen said of the piece discovered by an American man. "He described it similarly to what I'm looking at right now."

Last week, Lotter's mother Candace contacted Australian aviation authorities and they said the number on the part indicates it may belong to a Boeing 777, according to Casper Lotter.

[Abelard]

The teenaged finder reminds me of a story in Aspen, Colorado 20 or so years ago. A family were skiing there, and their teenage son claimed to have seen an airplane crash behind a ridgeline. They ignored him until they got back home and heard a news story of a missing airplane believed to be in the area. The boy was flown back to Colorado and led searchers straight to the wreckage.

[RatherBeFlying]

Teen age boys are often excellent witnesses for aviation investigators.

[Benjane]

A careful look at the flaperon shows that barnacle do not care for flat even surfaces, vertical or horizontal. They seem to prefer nooks and angles. Plus the spiky edge of composite airplane skin is not quite suitable for soft skin cyprid (barnacle larva)... So this debate is not really one.

[Benjane]

Not a single source uses these exact terms nor ATSB report after an extensive search. Do confirm source please.

[AerocatS2A]

The curious thing about this find is that apparently the South African teenager, Liam Lotter who fished it out of the water when he was on his hols, packed it up in his suitcase and took it home. That was back in December. Now why would anyone do that.

If you were to take any particular item at random and then trace it's path back to manufacturer you would likely find a thousand unlikely coincidences that resulted in that particular item ending up where it is right now. It would seem almost preposterous that that particular item has ended up in your hands. If you go the other way though, trace from manufacturer to you, you would see that for that one item that made it to you there were millions that didn't.

The boy taking an interest in the part and taking it home with him only seems strange when viewed from the present and looking backward. If you consider that for the part to have made it to the news it must necessarily have traced a remarkable path it doesn't seem so strange. There are a million other aeroplane parts out in the ocean that have not been picked up and there may have been many that have been picked up by wandering teenagers and discarded as junk.

[MrSnuggles]

I have no knowledge at all about barnacles. Could someone please inform me if they are easy to remove? This boy stored the part outside of water for some time - could this make barnacles fall off?

[AtomKraft]

If I had to ditch a twin jet like this 777, or the similar type that I fly for a living, I'd take the advice in the QRH and do it with gear up and full flap.

I guess that if I made a decent job, the damage would be limited to the flaps and the rest of the aircraft would be left floating intact.

Then, the crew and I could evacuate the aircraft and hope for the best.

But if pax already asleep, then crack the doors open and wait for it to sink.....no more debris would be released.

[b1lanc]

MrSnuggles - Barnacles are incredibly difficult to remove - some harder than others. Having worked in a marina and lived on a boat in my early years, it was not uncommon to scrape the bottom of fiberglass boats and have part of the gelcoat come off with a barnacle directly exposing the glass fiber. They would attach to rudders (painted or not), props, prop shafts, and of course the hull. A long weekend in the water was sufficient to start barnacle growth, and they never fall off. Our typical procedure was scrape and then sand the residual portion of the barnacles off of the hull - often multiple times each boating season. That's why the anti-fouling paint (about 40% copper as I recall) was so important - at least you sand the paint off and not the gelcoat. Here's a decent link which gives you and idea of just how potent the 'glue' is.

Scientists finally unravel the mysteries of barnacle glue | Science! | Geek.com (http://www.geek.com/science/scientists-finally-unravel-the-mysteries-of-barnacle-glue-1599835/)

Given their propensity to attach to smooth surfaces in our area (that may be dependent on the barnacle species and I'd defer to a marine biologist on that), it very much surprises me that there is no barnacle growth on the 'flat' surfaces on any of the pieces. Then again, we tend to get what's loosely called 'acorn' barnacles here and it seems the flaperon had 'goose' type growth. Attachment points look to be significantly different.

[SLFguy]

shows that barnacle do not care for flat even surfaces, vertical or horizontal

Just about as wrong as you could be. Ask a boat owner.

[Benjane]

Just look at the flaperon largest picture! I've experienced first hand barnacles on boat hulls too and they can grow everywhere indeed. But first, this is no standard boat hull materiel and certainly not at anchor. Plus the citation is a little out of context: not saying that they can't do it, but the number of barnacles on the Reunion flaperon's flat surfaces are quite limited with regards to angular sections and corners. Large flat patches are almost free of them and there are very few attached to the shattered ragged edge. All the newly parts found feature flat surfaces and ragged edges... And that may simply explain this.

[Chronus]

Thanks for the full speel on the whys and fors Passenger 389

Pops might as well have said, Jnr likes collecting shells.

[jolihokistix]

Idea. There seems to be quite a lot of confusion as to who found what and where. To be sure we are singing off the same song sheet, could we not number the objects in order of their discovery?
E.G.
1. Flaperon.
2. Triangular wing section.
3. Square wing section.
4. Liam's rectangular wing section... etc. Or should he be number 2?


With dates, places and a little more detail for each. Just for my own sanity.

[Leftfoot]

https://www.ecr.co.za/news-sport/news/mh370-update-caa-collects-debris-kzn-family/

Better scale of the piece found here

[Chronus]

https://www.ecr.co.za/news-sport/news/mh370-update-caa-collects-debris-kzn-family/

Better scale of the piece found here
Yes it is a good picture of the find and Lotter Jnr. Now if it turns out that it did belong to MH370, then the Lotters have hit the lottery jackpot.

Here in the UK we have some laws and things alike that would oblige us to hand it over to a chap called "Receiver of Wrecks".
Here is an extract from the published guidance.

"Merchant Shipping Act 1995
Under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995, you must report to the Receiver of Wreck all wreck material recovered from UK territorial waters and any wreck material brought into the UK from outside UK territorial waters. This includes:

wreck material found in or on the sea
wreck material washed ashore in tidal waters
material recovered from a wreck site - regardless of age, size or apparent importance or value
When you report recovered wreck material to the Receiver, you may be entitled to a salvage award."
Don`t they have one of these Receiver of Wreck types in SA. I would have thought they would have given him a courtesy call before letting the CAA chaps cart it away.

[susier]

I have seen media reports today that the French investigation has told the Australian investigation that the second part found by Johny Begue on Reunion is unlikely to be from MH370.


I believe that's the small blue and white section found the other week.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/16/mh370-debris-found-on-reunion-unlikely-to-be-from-missing-plane

[Benjane]

Based on the specific honeycomb squarish pattern on the SA part (aramicore does manufacture some very similar for aircrafts) can an engineer say if this is the stuff mainly found on 777 fairings?

[Typhoon Tripacer]

One question I would like to pose is why is debris not being found off western and southern Australia. The debris field animations from the time of the event always suggested material would wash up on Madagascar and Reunion, but also showed that much more material would arrive on Australian beaches. With nothing found to date conspiracy theorists could play on this point.

[Benjane]

Simple answer: very few floating debris, very very lucky that one was confirmed. If there had been lots of seat cushions and the like, they'd possibly turn out in both locations. Animated debris field is probabilist, given the currents, not actual. There are many possible routes, but if one drops at sea within a few hundred yards three half-floating objects without variable "sail" surfaces exposed to the wind, chances are they will be sheppered by oceanic currents to roughly in the same geographic area, a few months later. Except right in the middle where the dominent Indian ocean current splits! Whatever, conspiracy theorists craft, use, recycle or invent whatever can suits their irrational view of things. While annoying, it is a common human reaction in an attempt to bring a sense of order where there isn't yet. You just can't prevent it.

[172driver]

One question I would like to pose is why is debris not being found off western and southern Australia.

One reason may well be that the western Australian coastline is an extremely isolated place. Much fewer people there than along the equivalent in Africa.

[Benjane]

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/RBenjane/Capture%20drsquoeacutecran%202016-03-18%20agrave%2018.59.38_zpsmknxyzs1.png

The lower section appears to me very similar to the second sample from top.

[601]

One question I would like to pose is why is debris not being found off western and southern Australia.

Maybe all the wreckage passed to the south of OZ and will wash up on South America.

[Benjane]

Found some evidential cue in aerospace suppliers literature (DuPont Nomex, ACP and Aramicore) with regards to square-cell honeycomb composite displayed on the debris marked 676EB... This type of core is called Over-Expanded Cell Aramid Honeycomb and allows the core to flex more in one direction than the other, "providing improved drapeability for the production of curved parts". Maybe I have a fixation, but the more I look at it, the more I see a relevant clue.

[susier]

It's reported that the two pieces of debris have now arrived in Australia for analysis.

[cressidom]

The below just seen on twitter. Reported by Channel News Asia.

JUST IN: A piece of debris possibly from an "Inlet Cowling" of an aircraft found along southern coast of South Africa, near Mosselbay today

https://twitter.com/SumishaCNA/status/712219135745269760

Dom

[jfkjohan]

I suspect many more will be surfacing. It's been what, 2 years & counting.

[cressidom]

Yes just over 2 years now. Another link to this news.

Airplane debris found along South African coast | theSundaily (http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1735997)

Dom

[susier]

Looks like this is the first piece that isn't definitively from the Starboard side.

[Benjane]

Here's a picture of it.
http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/RBenjane/CeFKDrsW0AAioFf_zpszv5hrf1p.jpg?t=1458574316

[susier]

and another, close up


https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12033138_10154014045887298_7362195452093254002_n.jpg?oh=3dc7 ebe1a927666ce7113cc1df8cf665&oe=5782BE5E

[Sir George Cayley]

Hmm? "ROY.." Couldn't be Royce could it?

SGC

[philbky]

The logo is certainly Rolls Royce

[Benjane]

Not only Rolls Royce logo it is, but here is a color match where the RR logo is on the engine where it should be!
(Having problem with picture link it seems, but it is very easy to find if it keeps bugginghttp://www.bangaloreaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Malaysia_Airlines_Boeing_777-200ER_9M-MRL.jpg)

[Accomplice]

Some more pictures showing the scale of the debris.

Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (http://imgur.com/a/QLnxu)

[etudiant]

That is a seriously fractured structure. It suggests a disintegrated aircraft.

[2EggOmelette]

Daft question I know, but what material is it constructed from?

[porterhouse]

It suggests a disintegrated aircraft.
this alone suggest nothing.

[etudiant]

this alone suggest nothing.

I'll defer to structural experts, but so shredded a piece of cowling suggests a pretty violent event.
What is missing is floatable debris from inside the hull. There should be some if the airplane was as violently smashed as the debris to date suggest.

[Benjane]

According to a recent article in National Post, it was found by a SA archaeologist named Neels Kruger "On South Africa’s southern coast, Neels Kruger was walking along a lagoon on Monday afternoon, near the town of Mossel Bay when he spotted something that did not seem to suit the natural surroundings."
That's 212 miles almost due east of Cape Town (-34.116009, 22.124018), close to the very tip of Africa.

[beamender99]

That's 212 miles almost due west of Cape Town (-34.116009, 22.124018), close to the very tip of Africa.

A typo? Four and a half hours by car East from Cape Town, for those who know the area, along the Garden Route.

[Benjane]

shredded a piece of cowling suggests a pretty violent event.
I'll concur with porterhouse: this suggest nothing for the hull. Engine may slam first in the water and even get torn away without necessarily rupturing the hull. (as in US Air 1549)

[Benjane]

showing the scale of the debris
And showing yet another type of core. Spirit AeroSystem inc supplies struts and nacelles to Boeing and nothing else according to their website. Another supplier must deals with fairings (Lotter part displays rectangular sections), flaperon looks with aramid core too and No Step aluminium. Makes sense since all those part are subjected to different and specific stresses.

[invaders]

A Dutchman claims to have just found this toilet on Dolphin Beach in South Africa. Could this possibly be from a 777?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CePYHiGWIAE2_7e.jpg

[Trackmaster]

Latest on Australian investigation of debris. Most likely from the missing aircraft.

https://t.co/kCNES87upq

[mickjoebill]

Latest on Australian investigation of debris. Most likely from the missing aircraft.

https://t.co/kCNES87upq
To be pedantic,
report on ABC says it is definitely from a 777. Investigation team have not forensically linked it directly to MH370. The assumption is that since no other 777 jets have crashed it is "highly likely " to be from MH370.

The Australian transport minister is still upbeat that crash site will be found.

Mickjoebill

[_Phoenix]

Great news. Among with RR piece of nacelle found in South Africa (quite clear it's origin), we count 4 debris from MH370.
But, no extra news/results from French investigators about detailed investigation/analysis of flaperon?

[deanm]

Looks like the real deal:

MH370: Debris found in Mozambique 'almost certainly' from missing Malaysia Airlines plane - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-24/debris-found-almost-certainly-from-missing-mh370/7274016)

The 'Rolls Royce' engine cowling fragment will likely be next...

Dean

[Passenger 389]

With information known so far, is it possible to determine whether that RR fragment (if it is valid) would be from the cowling on the port or on the starboard engine?

I ask because the two confirmed 777 pieces (flaperon found on Reunion, and flap support fairing found in Mozambique) reportedly were both from starboard - and as some have noted, from the same general area on the plane.

[deanm]

P389: your curiosity is valid & something I share.

Given the previously-announced indication that the right-hand engine was likely the first to flame-out (with 12-15 minutes fuel remaining for the left-hand), one might expect the aircraft (if uncontrolled) to have entered the water right-wing down.

If the right-hand flaperon was fully down so as to compensate for this bank (and the flaperon would have been largely ineffective with a dead engine ahead), it is likely to have been promptly detached on contact.

So far, the bits we have are from the right...

It may be tricky to assign the RR logo debris to left or right side, given that the fragment appears to be relatively small.

Dean

[susier]

Report of yet another piece found on a beach in Wilderness, S.A. not too far from Mossel Bay.


Piece of Air Malaysia plane found in Wilderness? | George Herald | Garden Route (http://www.georgeherald.com/news/News/General/160553/Piece-of-Air-Malaysia-plane-found-in-Wilderness)


No images as yet. According to (only) source it's been handed in to the CAA already.

[beamender99]

See images @ #61 above

[beamender99]

Susier.
Sorry. My mistake. Yet another part found ?
We need a numbering system .

[NorthernChappie]

Is a sweep of the surface points east from these locations not worth considering?

[papapapahotel]

Invader, Are you real? or, is it a joke?

[susier]

Papa - it's (sadly) been all over twitter. Someone really did think it could be important.

[p.j.m]

Found on Rodrigues Island - a small island in the Mauritius group, East of Africa

https://i.imgur.com/ZoJWhjV.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/suspected-fragment-of-mh370-business-class-cabin-found-on-rodrigues-island-east-of-africa/news-story/5ee5f650a44e5b19b7dfe6f92370fc61

[Benjane]

The part found on Rodrigues Island, adjusted for perspective and superposed on an archive picture of MA interior panel with complex pattern matching almost exactly. This sounds as good as a part number for me.
http://i.imgur.com/nwgMbB8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/j7KNpBd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5PzhGj1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3qYBrR4.jpg

[mmurray]

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2014/aair/ae-2014-054/

An update (https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2014/aair/ae-2014-054/) on two possible pieces of MH370 debris recovered in Mozambique from the Australian Transport Safety Bureau. Conclusions are

Conclusions

At the time of writing, ongoing work was being conducted with respect to the marine ecology identification as well as testing of material samples. The results from these tests will be provided to the Malaysian investigation team once complete. Nevertheless, from the initial examination it was concluded that:

Part No. 1 was a flap track fairing segment, almost certainly from the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 aircraft, registered 9M-MRO.

Part No. 2 was a horizontal stabiliser panel segment, almost certainly from the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 aircraft, registered 9M-MRO.

[susier]

Interesting that they use the new initials MAB in comparing the fonts used on the flap track fairing. I would have thought they'd use MAS.

[susier]

Un débris suspecté de provenir du vol MH370 retrouvé à Gris-Gris (http://ionnews.mu/un-debris-suspecte-de-provenir-du-vol-mh370-retrouve-a-gris-gris-250516/)


and


Un débris d?avion provenant probablement du Vol MH 370 de la Malaysia Airlines découvert à Îlot Bernache | TOP FM (http://www.topfmradio.com/media-center/news/un-debris-davion-provenant-probablement-du-vol-mh-370-de-la-malaysia-airlines-decouvert-ilot-bernache)


Mods please add this to the existing locked thread, at your convenience - many thanks.

[A320FOX]

http://www.topfmradio.com/sites/default/files/styles/articles_large/public/field/image/debris_avion.jpg?itok=qVDNpRVv

Parts seem too clean for such a long time in sea water. Lets cross our fingers!

[Bertie Bonkers]

Colour me cynical, but when I see pieces like these I often wonder if someone in the Ukraine hasn't got themselves a nice little business crating up pieces of MH17 and shipping them to places looking to profit from MH370 tourism.

[A320FOX]

It is the same piece but upside down!:8

[susier]

Yes, that's one of the pieces shown in two photographs, side by side, from different angles. Probably part of a trailing edge from a wing or stabiliser?


The other is in the first link and looks more like part of a fairing, similar to the piece found by Liam Lotter a while ago.


The one you've posted an image of (thank you) was found about two weeks ago in the North of the island; the other was found at the Southern tip, yesterday (Tuesday).

[susier]

Bertie;


They would have had to float them there, in order to collect enough marine life to make them look authentic.


These don't look terribly colonised, however several of the other items found prior to today, had a lot of small, slimy passengers.

[skadi]

This part was found on kangaroo island in southern Australia.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/plane-debris-found-on-south-australias-kangaroo-island-examined-for-mh370-link-20160609-gpftdf.html

[am111]

Clickable link for the lazy. (http://www.smh.com.au/world/plane-debris-found-on-south-australias-kangaroo-island-examined-for-mh370-link-20160609-gpftdf.html)