landing gear failure

[plain radar]

Is landing gear failure the most common accident that aircraft have?

[gerry111]

Plain radar,


Perhaps in the case of RAAF Mirage jets that was sometimes the case?


But please let me narrow down your question a bit. How about GA aircraft that fly VFR? And then some pilots who forget that it should always be in VMC?


One thing that I've learned from GA flying over 30 years is simply this: The one time that you think that you're getting good at it, there's something there to bite you.


I reckon that the most common accidents in GA aircraft come from bad judgements by the PIC.

[Styx75]

Most common I see in GA is (students) landing with their feet on the brakes leading to popped tires. Followed by hard/flat landings; crushing the nosewheel and/or tail striking...

[aroa]

pr....Apart from the occasional technical glitches on u/c gear, I think the more common event is a failure of the PIC to put the gear down :mad::{

[Aussie Bob]

Most common I see in GA is (students) landing with their feet on the brakes leading to popped tires. Followed by hard/flat landings; crushing the nosewheel and/or tail striking... In almost 30 years of instructing I have never seen "popped tyres" "crushed nosewheel" or "tail striking" by a student pilot. Unless of course, scratching the tie down ring on a 172 constitutes a "tail strike". I will concede "feet on the brakes" is a bit more common, but it's not just student pilots who do it.

I must only get the good students.

[zanthrus]

I have seen bent nose wheel forks, bent broken main gear legs, tail strikes, prop strikes, BOTH wingtip strikes in ONE landing all by so called airline cadet students at a certain place in WA.

Seen a nose wheel ripped off by a CFIT at night following a suspected AI failure (nothing wrong with it), hit the ground at 140kts and 9g, bounced and then student made a perfect and short landing on the runway centre line.

Took two weeks to find the nosewheel in some field. :eek:

[5th officer]

It is not the type of accident/incident that it is important it is "when". As Instructors we were given some interesting statistics back in the 1990's, an American study found most accidents happened around 7 years of flying, "complacency and/or, I now know everything" appeared to be the cause. After carrying out hundreds of BFR's over the years this certainly appeared to have some credence.

[Styx75]

In almost 30 years of instructing I have never seen "popped tyres" "crushed nosewheel" or "tail striking" by a student pilot. Unless of course, scratching the tie down ring on a 172 constitutes a "tail strike". I will concede "feet on the brakes" is a bit more common, but it's not just student pilots who do it.

I must only get the good students.

Well, just so you dont feel left out then; here's what happens to a 172 when the brakes are locked during the landing...

http://i.imgur.com/6viPYMW.jpg?1

The tailstrike is usually less interesting: the tie down ring gets pushed up into the fuselage, and sometimes some paint in that area is removed.

I'll fish out a hard landing (usually a stall from 10ft) pic if you're interested...

Accidents happen.

[Aussie Bob]

:sad: I guess they do ... but if this is a common occurrence then questions could be asked .... like was the student fit for solo? or was it dual and actually the PIC who is damaging stuff? Interesting pic, and no, I am not having a go at you. I do recall a couple of bingles with students and me the PIC. Thanks for posting.

[Styx75]

Common occurrence as in once, maybe twice year. There no commonality between the instances I've heard of... An RPL under dual that hasn't shown this tendency previously, a CPL private hire being too eager doing a practice short field. May have even been the tire was right on edge and I've been unfairly judging the pilot... I've also heard some RPT pilots forget a 182 doesn't have auto-braking...

[Band a Lot]

Prop strike would be the most common reportable accident I think. Other than forget me gear ups, gear failures are not that common.

[Flying Ted]

Here is useful report on GA accidents.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/4096068/xr-2012-001_final_web.pdf

Most common is operator error VRF into IMC, no go juice, etc. The planes themselves are least of our worry.

My own personal experience (and I don't fly as much as I'd like) is a partial engine failure (seized oil ring) and a tire blow out on landing (without brake application).

[captjns]

Is landing gear failure the most common accident that aircraft have?

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