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BitterFlex
23rd Feb 2016, 08:15
Anyone know where to buy the cans to spray the cabin? Just talked to Universal in Rome who informed me that the cost of them(or somebody else rather) spraying it is 260 euro. What experience do you have so far? Just got introduced a few days ago.. Read bellow news form AINOnline...

NBAA is advising that some countries are requiring insecticide treatment for business aircraft as concerns grow about the spread of the Zika virus. In a recent update published by the association, NBAA points to Italy, which has had a number of reported cases involving people who arrived from South America and the Caribbean. Italy is now requiring a certificate of residual disinsection for all aircraft that operate in the nation, regardless of origin. Residual disinsection entails spraying the cabin, cockpit and cargo holds with an approved aerosol insecticide.

JonDyer
27th Feb 2016, 11:18
We're quoted €350 to do it on arrival.

Why am I not surprised that this is Italy?

noneya
28th Feb 2016, 02:41
And what exactly constitutes "an approved aerosol insecticide?"

Tekor Bali
28th Feb 2016, 02:47
€318,60 on arrival in Sicily.

McDoo
28th Feb 2016, 07:54
And who, exactly, provides this 'Certificate of disinsection'? Can an operator simply make up their own form and buy a can of Raid from a supermarket?
Or is this simply another money grabbing exercise from a Mafia run Third World country?
If you fly into Switzerland or France and then hire a car to drive across the border, does the same requirement apply?:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Captain Kaboom
28th Feb 2016, 09:03
In Milano they insisted the cabin had to be sprayed after arrival from within the EU...
Sounds like a money making scheme.

Tekor Bali
28th Feb 2016, 09:37
Making money opportunity!!!
You need a certified company, your handler will povide you contacts of course. I confirm that is required for flights from EU as well!
Nothing in Spain or Swiss coming from Africa, but mandatory in Italy.

FJ44
28th Feb 2016, 19:38
Aircraft Insecticides, Aircraft disinsection, Aviation Insecticides, Aerospace Inflight Air Fresheners (http://www.callingtonhaven.com/aerospace_inflight_products.php)

Not sure if this is approved in the EU but it's what's used in Australia, NZ, and South East Asia and the Pacific.

Global_Global
29th Feb 2016, 10:08
Since this is now also a sexual transmitted disease you are not allowed any s@x in Italy for the first 6 months after your arrival :{

BitterFlex
1st Mar 2016, 12:32
I was quoted 290 euros buy handling in Rome and Milan.. Fun fun fun

noneya
2nd Mar 2016, 03:27
Was there an option to spray your own aircraft with an approved spray? Or are they going to spray and charge you no matter what? Also can you see what they are spraying to make sure it is approved to not damage your interior?

We now have on board our planes a non flammable airline approved bug spray, but want to know if we are going to get charged anyway.

Wonder if we protest, saying this is killing the environment with all the spraying, that it would get them to stop this madness? I am calling Leonardo DiCaprio!! :p



I was quoted 290 euros buy handling in Rome and Milan.. Fun fun fun

zmsudu
2nd Mar 2016, 08:10
Italy is now requiring a certificate of residual disinsection for all aircraft that operate in the nation, regardless of origin. Residual disinsection entails spraying the cabin, cockpit and cargo holds with an approved aerosol insecticide.[/I]

Where can this be found publicly available?

His dudeness
2nd Mar 2016, 08:25
that it would get them to stop this madness?

Stop bureaucratic bollocks in Italy ? good luck with that one...

Lowmick
8th Mar 2016, 09:36
480 EUR + VAT at LIPO...

Empty Cruise
10th Mar 2016, 09:21
Bottom of standard GenDec form, the CDR or other responsible person (could be purser) signs off on disinsection. Cabin needs to be sprayed before boarding and again before top of descent. Spraying after landing has eff all effect.

So - bottom line: signed GenDec + 2 empty cans of insecticide and you're home free.

josephfeatherweight
10th Mar 2016, 10:18
So - bottom line: signed GenDec + 2 empty cans of insecticide and you're home free.

Is that really the case? I heard that a Residual Disinsection Certificate was the ONLY thing accepted in Italy at the moment - ie, Disinsection not permitted to be performed by crew and must be professionally applied. A Residual Disinsection is valid for 8 weeks. Correct me if wrong, please.

Hawker 800
10th Mar 2016, 10:24
Was there an option to spray your own aircraft with an approved spray?

We do. They insisted (Bergamo) that they sprayed us upon landing though.... And charged a pretty penny.

Empty Cruise
10th Mar 2016, 20:04
@Joseph

Depends on what your OM says. If your CA have approved non-residual procedure, they have nothing on you. As many areas cannot be disinsected in that manner (namely all that involve food preparation), residual is not accepted everywhere. Is it...India?...that won't accept residual?

For private ops - EU operators will have an easier time when you have put non-residual in your approved Part-NCC OM. Thrid-country private operators - well, unless you have something on paper, they can pretty much impose whatever criteria on you that they want. Worth checking before dispatching somewhere...

BitterFlex
10th Mar 2016, 20:31
Needs to be done by approved company in Italy. They got us by the ba...

dirkdj
11th Mar 2016, 05:08
http://www.pprune.org/medical-health/575721-zika-virus-what-going-1-8-b-question.html

dirk85
11th Mar 2016, 12:20
Spoke with some colleagues based in italy on eu commercial operators and they have their own cans, easy and cheap, no big deal out of milan and rome at least.

Salto
28th May 2016, 11:36
Just curious, how do you ensure that this toxics sprayed in the cabin by Italians are approved by your aircraft manufacturer as interior treatment..?

josephfeatherweight
29th May 2016, 11:15
You can't - in fact, the residual spray is terrible for the fine woodwork and panelling in a biz jet. The faux suede used in most biz jets to line the ceiling is often affected also.
Having said that, went into Italy last week and did NOT have the residual spray done on the jet, so we went with our "best effort" and did a preflight spray and TOPD spray and presented the empty cans to the agent from the FBO on arrival. He smiled politely and had no idea what they were for. No questions asked, smiles all around...

CaptainProp
12th Jun 2016, 11:14
From eraa.org


On 1 February 2016 the International Health Regulations Emergency Committee declared that the Zika outbreak detected in South America constitutes a Public Health Emergency of International Concern. On the 19 February, the European Parliament passed a Motion for Resolution which, following the WHO-recommendations on prevention in European countries, calls on the Commission and Member States to significantly enhance monitoring of invasive mosquito species and increase controlling mosquitoes by eliminating breeding sites (like pools) and planning for insecticide spraying in case of outbreaks. As well as recommending improved disinfection rates of cargo, cargo carriers and cabin and passenger compartments of planes from infected countries.

The Italian Government has taken this a step further and already implemented, through its NAA, ENAC a requirement for all aircraft operating into Italian airports and regardless of point of origin, to have been “disinsected” in accordance with the World Health Organisation Guidance (see link below), demonstrated by the carriage of a valid “Certificate of Residual Disinsection” which must be on-board all aircraft at all times.

ERA, in consultation with other airline European Airline Associations is of the opinion that this requirement by the Italian authorities is disproportionate and impractical and we have presented a joint letter (available via the downloads button) to the Italian authorities and airport operators requesting reconsideration.

In essence, the letter explains that although we are well aware of the virulence of the virus, and that it has legitimately been declared a public health emergency of international concern by the World Health Organization (WHO) lately, we understand the risks of propagation, but imposing impractical and eventually unrealistic measures onto airspace operators is not operationally feasible. We believe that the request of the Italian authorities of imposing residual “disinsection” for all flights is totally out of proportion with the disease and is not aligned with what all WHO Member States, including other EU Member States have decided to implement.

The feedback we are receiving currently from our members who operate in Italy is that for aircraft operators, these measures are causing insurmountable operational difficulties and can lead to severe disruptions of their operations. In addition, the required “residual disinsection” to be performed by certified/specialised companies may not be available at all airports in Italy. This implies that aircraft could be grounded for hours, or even has to be re-positioned to airports where this “disinsection” process is available.

We therefore have urged the Italian authorities to consider more commensurate measures regarding “disinsection” of aircraft in line with the actual WHO recommendations as illustrated by the measures introduced by other EU Member States. We would also encourage you to coordinate closely with ENAC to ensure that appropriate and clear communication is disseminated to all the impacted airlines operating in Italy, so as to avoid confusion on the actual requirements. We have also requested a meeting with the authorities to further discuss the above concerns and the Directorate will keep you informed of developments.

Important bit

requirement for all aircraft operating into Italian airports and regardless of point of origin, to have been “disinsected” in accordance with the World Health Organisation Guidance (see link below), demonstrated by the carriage of a valid “Certificate of Residual Disinsection” which must be on-board all aircraft at all times.

Procedure needs to be completed by a certified / specialized company.

WHO information here:

http://www.who.int/ihr/ports_airports/zika-aircraft-disinsection/en/



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