Aviation history ca early 1900's

[underfire]

Mods, not certain where to put these, but I think they are of interest to many.

A person whos relative, Sophie, was left boxes and boxes of images, to which I am digitizing. Many I cannot show due to copyright issues, but this Sophie was an early biplane stunt pilot, along with many other women, such as Clara Livingston, Aletta Hegeman who were pilots of the day. (one image shows Amelia Earhart landing on the beach in Carmel, sorry..that one is well paid for!)

I never knew that due to the war or whatever reason, many early stunt pilots were women.. Interesting images to say the least. let me know if anyone is interested in seeing more..

Titles are from the original notes on the pictures... not certain of any dates, but I am certain some members here were ride-alongs, so hopefully some more information!

Aletta Hegeman
http://i67.tinypic.com/2zecms9.jpg

on the beach in Carmel, start it up

http://i63.tinypic.com/2u56cs4.jpg

out the window..trimotor

http://i68.tinypic.com/2prahya.jpg

Clara with ultra-modern Boeing twin motor

http://i68.tinypic.com/1zgucrq.jpg

[Airclues]

Mods, not certain where to put these,

Have you considered the Aviation History and Nostalgia forum?

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia-86/

[Wageslave]

...where they will be rapturously received.

[Rosevidney1]

The more the merrier, Sir!

[WHBM]

The last pic "ultra modern Boeing" is a Boeing 247. It has an interesting combination of features, for it has the reverse-sloping windshield that only the first aircraft of this type had (the mainstream 247D production ones had conventional slope) but it has three-blade constant speed propellers, where the first had two-blade fixed props.

The bulk of the 247s were built for the initial incarnation of United Airlines, which together with Boeing and Pratt & Whitney were all owned by the forebears of the current United Technologies. It does look like it's in the early United colour scheme of the times (later they put an art-deco blue/white scheme on their 247s).

My guess is that it is posed for publicity when the type was new and the latest thing at the 1933 Worlds Fair in Chicago, and that Clara Livingston was known for some prior aviation achievement rather then being the aircraft's pilot. The overweight gentleman who has bought a suit two sizes too small for himself looks vaguely familiar from other historic photos, like some Boeing/United bigwig. Anyone like to fill in more ?

[Stanwell]

Very good, WHBM.

The aircraft in the first two pics is, of course, an OX-5 powered Curtiss JN-4 'Jenny' - I would say the Canadian version, the 'Canuck'.
Ailerons on both upper and lower wings is the major clue to that.

Thanks for posting those, underfire.
Look forward to seeing more as they become available.
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[underfire]

Thanks all...

pprune has so many forums...never looked under misc forums...

the collection is a bit scrambled with the dates, so thanks for any help with the ids and such.

It appears there was a road trip, flying to SF, then to Carmel for the beach scenes. There is an Ocean vessel trip to Asia, with images of Shanghai and the Great Wall dated 1917

[FlightlessParrot]

The last pic "ultra modern Boeing" is a Boeing 247. It has an interesting combination of features, for it has the reverse-sloping windshield that only the first aircraft of this type had (the mainstream 247D production ones had conventional slope) but it has three-blade constant speed propellers, where the first had two-blade fixed props.


In the Wikipedia article there are a couple of pictures of 247s with both reverse-slope windscreens and three-blade propellors. I know, Wikipedia, but these are photographs. Any chance of retrofits, perhaps?

[Flybiker7000]

UNDERFIRE wrote:
Thanks all... pprune has so many forums...never looked under misc forums...


Interresting pictures!
I am happy that they got directed here to hist. & nost. wich is where I mainly move around ;-)

In case it's the plan to evolve the amount of pictures: May I suggest the use of the fixed posting atop of 'Aviation historia and nostalgia' named: 'dedicated home for brilliant pictures .....'!