Cessna looses wing?????

[Duck Pilot]

Has anyone heard of a Cessna have a wing failure recently in Western Queensland?

Rumour that I received come from a reliable source, although I am skeptical.

[Lead Balloon]

It's true. Apparently the cause was the pilot's CVD and dyslexia, resulting in him reading 'SIDS' as 'disregard'.

Despite those handicaps, he did know the difference between "lose" - did you lose your wallet? - and "loose" - does your wife have loose morals? :ok:

[Unregistered User]

FFS. Onya Lead Balloon........

I nearly "loost" the plot after reading the headline. :ugh:

[Lead Balloon]

But the fact remains that the wing loose was caused by the pilot's CVD. Believe me.

[Hasherucf]

Wasn't there a 210 that had a wing fail in a storm some time back.

[runway16]

Perhaps Cessna 210 VH-WBZ on 7/12/2011 N-W of Roma, Qld.
Thunderstorm activity in the area.

There may have been an earlier Qld C210 break up in the air but I am unable to access the ATSB records.

R16.

[Duck Pilot]

Cessna 182RG I believe was involved, possibly at YBCV. Wing detatched on takeoff during the ground role due to possible sabotage. No injuries to the pilot.

Has their been a derelict Cessna 182RG out at YBCV, or somewhere out west recently?

And for the record I'm not on drugs or pi$$ed.

[tnuc]

Cessna 210L VH-DJT, 11-6-1976, Failure in Flight of the Left Wing.
One of the owners of the aircraft told us it had around 100Hrs TT from New.

[Duck Pilot]

The rumour that I heard was that this incident occurred very recently, not in 1976. Interesting that there is nothing on the ATSB website about the incident (if it's true), although it may not have been reported.

[185skywagon]

Nothing here at YBCV.

[captjns]

Is the owner offering a reward for the recovery of the lost wing?:}

[RatsoreA]

Confirmed it happened at charters towers, wind strut bolt removed, fairings refitted, folded up over the cabin at about 25 knots GS on TO roll. Being treated as a deliberate act by persons currently unknown.

[Band a Lot]

Upper or lower bolt?

[RatsoreA]

Lower. And some characters because I can't post just one word...

[Band a Lot]

That narrows the suspect - with no "s" I suspect.

[Ejector]

Attempted Murder, very premeditated.

[Band a Lot]

Was the "A"hole smart enough to leave hardware inside fairing?

[Adsie]

Scary thought.

Might add more weight to airport security and the very handy ASIC card !!!

[Squawk7700]

Pre-flight anyone?


I recall years ago a guy with an ultralight where the lower bolt had come out and the fairing was holding the strut on the bracket. He noticed that it wasn't flying straight any more and started adjusting the aileron to suit, more and more, until one day with an instructor on board the strut let go even further. A spiralled descent and mild crash landing followed with no injury to all. The lower bolt had long since fallen out.

[Band a Lot]

Pretty sure Cessna strut cuffs do not have enough space for the bolt to fall out. So it would not be a pre-flight issue. But would be interesting to know if bolt was still in the cuff.

[RatsoreA]

It was not.

[Duck Pilot]

Rumours I heard was that the aircraft hadn't flown for quite some time, and it was being ferried for maintenance. It apparently had a permit to fly.

The strut bolt could have been removed a long time ago.

In either case it's a despicable act, and the person responsible deserves to be locked up for a long time. Obviously they would have had knowledge of what the consequences would have been if the aircraft did got airborne. It's sad to know that there are such people out there who do these acts of sabotage, especially to aircraft.

Empty your mail box a bit Ratsore, I tried sending you a PM but it bounced back.

[Duck Pilot]

CASA permit I believe, not sure what the process is to get a permit to fly from CASA is.
The info I received was rumour and at least 3rd hand, so it may not be exactly correct.

[Squawk7700]

As the pilot I check 4 of my wing bolts before the first flight and the remaining 4 that I can't see,
I use a wiggle test. Would be interested to know if this would have shown up with a wiggle test.

[RatsoreA]

I have now cleaned my inbox a bit!

Getting a permit to fly wasn't terribly difficult when I wanted one for me. I don't know anything about the background of the plane and flight, just what I've said here.

I don't think this is something that would be picked up in a preflight. I wiggle the wings of any aircraft I fly to shake any water in the fuel to encourage it to make its was to the sump for draining, but the lack of a bolt, i suspect, would go un-noticed as it sits in a slight recess, so a rocking of the wings wouldn't I think, dislodge it.

Nasty business, that, no matter which way you slice it. Even happier now with my low wing Piper, I think I'll notice pretty early if someone has unglued my wings!

[Band a Lot]

If sitting long. A good, very good fuel drain is good (mandatory) shake wings is part of it.

CASA permit requires a LAME to say is good to fly and all AD's need to be done. Also any requested things from CASA.

So with new information - Bolt removed to service other aircraft OR to cause death. Even if in a hangar, why put cuff back on and nothing holding wing up/on? Very dangerous and stupid to do.

Interesting nothing reported on this.

[Duck Pilot]

Wiggle test? That's a new one....

Being an engineer in a past life, I don't do any wiggling before flight (appart from having a nervous one in the toilet b4 I piss in the pots or light the fires). Although if it's a light aircraft I do seriously shake and pull the hell out of everything attached to the airframe that's susseptable to failure.

I assume the wing had fuel in it, wouldn't the weight of the wing and fuel collapsed the strut if the bolt was removed? Maybe the fairing and screws carried the weight??? Very interesting.

[Band a Lot]

Cessna quick drains (extra ones too if fitted from memory) 3 axis shake, L/H and R/H wing and Tail up and down.

It is FAR from new. Think FM refers to the bulletin or was AD and required FM or a placard to be attached. Very detailed fuel drain procedure that I have never seen done, other than a LAME.