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QFF
10th Jan 2016, 08:33
If I needed to drop a passenger off at YMML to catch a domestic connection as a one off operation, apart from the $328.03 landing fee which I am aware of, where would said passenger be dropped off?

I can't see any dedicated GA apron/terminal in the ERSA or AIP charts.

Don't really require services of a handling agent as it would literally involve dropping said pax off with hand luggage and them making their own way to the main terminals, depending on the dropoff location.

Does anyone have any info or recent experience doing this?

fujii
10th Jan 2016, 08:38
I did 14 years in Melbourne tower. Go to Essendon and get a taxi, it will be much easier.

The name is Porter
10th Jan 2016, 09:30
I flew a C182 in there about 5 years ago (about $275). They sent a 'follow me' car out to greet us. They took us down to the freight apron to park. A Tarago met us, drove us up to the top level (grabbed a coffee). They asked us what time we wanted to head back to the aircraft. Come picked us up and took us back to the aircraft. It was a hoot!

We did it at 3am (to minimise delays). That was 5 years ago. You can't get a VFR clearance through the TMA these days so I wouldn't expect one into Tullamarine unless you are IFR.

John Eacott
10th Jan 2016, 21:22
I did 14 years in Melbourne tower. Go to Essendon and get a taxi, it will be much easier.

The "good old days" of GA ops into Tulla are long gone. EN and taxi/Uber is quicker and cheaper, let alone much, much easier :ok:

QFF
10th Jan 2016, 21:40
OK thanks everyone. We'll look at dropping pax off at EN instead.

ACMS
11th Jan 2016, 05:26
Landing fee for a PA 28 Archer at En is $75 as well..

I remember when it was free :(

gerry111
11th Jan 2016, 12:33
But that was back in the good ol' days when our Commonwealth Government still owned YMEN. These days, it's leased or owned by LINFOX.


Just count yourself lucky that LINFOX are prepared to let you land there. For they don't have to!


(No wonder that the rich have got much richer in recent years. Whilst the poorer...)

training wheels
11th Jan 2016, 12:56
My old flying school used to do trips to YMML from Moorabbin in the 90's which included a visit to the tower as well as to the radar room. And I've done one flight myself as well taking a few friends along. Those days, it costs around $40 a landing, but those days are long gone now.

I don't know whether YMML charges for the ILS but LinFox sure does for both the ILS at YMEN and YMAV.

fizflyer
11th Jan 2016, 20:42
EN access to and from airside is cumbersome,unless you are a regular user with the local airside card pass. if you arrive in odd hours its hard to get hold of grou nd security to let you thru. be aware.

PoppaJo
12th Jan 2016, 04:31
You'll probably end up over at the old John Holland hangers. The freighter apron is pretty tightly used now, It's half gone to T4 and Jetstar.

There is a tonne of International heavies launching this year, not sure where they are going to park them all. Probably just block off a few more taxiways and stick them there..

wheels_down
12th Jan 2016, 04:36
Forget Building airline parking bays when you can build more car parks!

Only had Etihad/Emirates/Cathay/Brunei/China Southern/Sichuan/Jetstar parked on taxiways the other Saturday due to nowhere to put them.

(I thought it was some sort of newfound aircraft graveyard!)

gerry111
12th Jan 2016, 09:18
So true, Fizflyer!

We planned our recent early morning departure from EN within the G.A.gate operating hours. The security guy answered his mobile and attended. All good!

(By the way, for anyone arriving at EN after a long flight: There are toilets in the adjacent terminal building once you leave the G.A.gate. Walk past all the old buildings with locked toilets and turn left.)

Showa Cho
16th Jan 2016, 23:17
I believe there is a free shuttle from EN to ML these days - worth a call to Essendon Airport and ask them. If you need someone to attend to get you in/out of the airside area, just ask the guys/gals in the TWR and they will get the safety officer to assist (during tower hours of course).

Have fun!

cirrus32
21st Apr 2020, 00:07
So, once the let us out from the level 3 restrictions and I'm allowed to fly my 172 again, what are the chances of getting a clearance to do a touch and go at Tullamarine? Once in a lifetime opportunity...

4forward8back
21st Apr 2020, 01:01
Flight training is still allowed. Do it as part of a flight review :p

On eyre
21st Apr 2020, 01:35
So, once the let us out from the level 3 restrictions and I'm allowed to fly my 172 again, what are the chances of getting a clearance to do a touch and go at Tullamarine? Once in a lifetime opportunity...

Save some coin for the landing fee first 🤪🤪

hgp
23rd Apr 2020, 03:05
So, once the let us out from the level 3 restrictions and I'm allowed to fly my 172 again, what are the chances of getting a clearance to do a touch and go at Tullamarine? Once in a lifetime opportunity...

What are the chances? Very good providing there's not much traffic about. Worst that will happen is ATC says no! You'll stand a much better chance if you file IFR, too.

Be aware a landing fee of $366 will apply plus whatever fees you pay for an approach.

Pretty cheap for the chance to land at YMML!

machtuk
23rd Apr 2020, 03:46
I guess we took it for granted once (back in the 70-80's) that you could land anywhere for nicks! I've got a photo (somewhere) of VH-TIZ I/we parked outside the end of the AN finger where Kendell's used to park at Tulla, just flew in one day for a coffe at the terminal whilst we stood on the observation deck watching VC10's etc come and go! -)

CaptainMidnight
23rd Apr 2020, 04:57
I guess we took it for granted once (back in the 70-80's) that you could land anywhere for nicks! I've got a photo (somewhere) of VH-TIZ I/we parked outside the end of the AN finger where Kendell's used to park at Tulla, just flew in one day for a coffe at the terminal whilst we stood on the observation deck watching VC10's etc come and go! -)

I used to see a white Bonanza(?) in QF colours (well, white with a red tail at least) parked against the southern hangar on Operations Road. In fact a check of Google Earth shows a lighty still there.

What is the story with that one?



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Vag277
23rd Apr 2020, 05:05
Date on the image is 12/1/18 so possibly no longer there

Allan L
23rd Apr 2020, 07:25
Google Earth has an archive of photos, bottom left of screen shows year of oldest photo (2002), click on that and it opens a slider bar top left and you can move through the full range of images. Appears in all images since the oldest available image, 29 May 2002.

Eagle954
25th Apr 2020, 06:51
Still there, wrecked 140 sitting outside old apprentice training workshop, garden ornament from Essendon.

megan
26th Apr 2020, 00:44
Old enough to remember when light aircraft were not permitted into any capital city airport, only the secondary, HF the only comms for flight service & tower. Still, landed at Tulla in a private aircraft once to drop the wifes mother so she could catch a flight home. Parked in the bay of whichever airline she was catching and she walked into the lounge guided by some employee, no fees either. The good old days when common sense was pretty common.

Capt Fathom
26th Apr 2020, 00:58
Old enough to remember when light aircraft were not permitted into any capital city airport

When was that??