Bachelors Degree Wanted - Quick

[Hueymeister]

Wanted - Quick Bachelors Degree....Anyone know (and yes I have trawled the web) if any of the Uni's are still doing the Aviation Management type of degrees with accreditation for Service types still.

I'll happily do a degree in needlework if I can do it quick..with minimum effort..yes, I am that lazy..but then I am sure my 27 years in the mob should count for something...

And there was me a 20 yr old proud member of FOLA on 72 :uhoh:

[Could be the last?]

Check your PM.

[LeggyMountbatten]

and PMs again

[Wrathmonk]

Have you tried here - nothing dodgy about this site whatsoever:E: Zero effort required apart from filling in a form or two.....

Buy Original Degree | Buy Accredited Degree | Buy UK Degree (http://www.original-degree.com/)

You can tell by the standard of English that it is entirely above board.;)

[GipsyMagpie]

Whatever you end doing consider that you are probably entitled to a course free from any tuition fees.

[ion_berkley]

It's all about google skills mate:
Try "hm forces degree"...lots of options.
My ex did direct entry to masters at Lancaster after she retired.

[BEagle]

What exactly do you consider to be a 'quick' bachelor's degree, which can be gained 'with minimum effort'?

Isn't 3 years full-time still the shortest acceptable for a recognised degree course?

[shandyman]

Huey, PM sent.

[teeteringhead]

Huey mon brave, dare one ask: "Why?" :confused::confused::confused:

[Nige321]

Isn't 3 years full-time still the shortest acceptable for a recognised degree course?

Beagle, yes, but some forward thinking universities are now doing them in two years where they can, with 3 years for a masters.

My son is doing a electronic engineering with computer science masters, the academic is years 1,2 and 4, with year 3 being a placement in industry. The old 4 year academic part is fast-tracked into 3 years.

He has around 27 hours tuition a week, for a 24 week academic year...

[Hueymeister]

Thanks all. Much appreciated. Being totally honest, if it weren't for the fact that my current employer requires me to get one within 12 years, I really wouldn't be fussed. I just need one and one I can do sharpish. Something within my sphere of interest/background/experience would be preferable, but tbh underwater-basket-weaving would do so long as it's quick!;)

[Courtney Mil]

It's a strange question, Huey, and you haven't offered much background. I've only recently retired from the higher education world so may be able to help a little.

The simple answer is that there is no "quick" BA or BSc. As has been mentioned, some unis do two year courses, but you will have to meet their entry standard and costs - Buckingham springs to mind, but the competition is stiff from huge numbers of foreign students. The competition isn't just previous quals, it's also how recently you were in education.

If you want to go full time you will have to give up work for three years. The alternative is part time - prepare to take longer - or distance learning such as the OU - which overcomes the problems with entry standards and recent educational experience. These days, it costs the same as any residential university,mthough; gone are the days of the £180 courses.

An honours degree is 360 points (120 a year is considered normal) or you could cut that down by 60 points by accepting a straight BA/BSc (without Hons). I did 120 points whilst working one year and it was bloody tough. You could do concurrent courses, but that's a lot of work and you need to choose courses carefully as, often, one will depend on the knowledge gained from another.

Regardless of distance or residential, you would still need to fit in with tutorials and other timing issues, so difficult to see how you could accelerate that.

How "quick" were you thinking? As for "minimum effort", I doubt you'll get a degree from a UK uni with that approach.

[Tourist]

How "quick" were you thinking? As for "minimum effort", I doubt you'll get a degree from a UK uni with that approach.




Have you met students??!


Some of the degrees available nowadays should not require much effort.


A girl I know did an art degree that had no tutorials. "We don't want to influence their art...."


As it happens, she is good at arty stuff, but some of the stuff at her show was dross.






Huey, is it a degree you need, or a "degree level qualification"?


There are some officer freebies around.

[Hueymeister]

Courtney...PM sent...

[Pontius Navigator]

Following on from CM, for an OU degree my daughter is doing 120 pts per year with the OU and working too. She has 2 children too.

One of my sergeants also did his OU degree in 3 years.

Pick your courses carefully. My environmental degree was pretty straightforward. My history degree was far harder. The OU publishes exam stats each year - numbers starting a course, percentage of starters taking the exam, percentages passing at each grade level.

One course might have 9% at level 1, 35 at level 2, 45% at level 3 etc. In contrast another might have 17, 60, 20 for instance. If you want an easy Open degree picking your courses can make it painless.

Contact the OU, they may offer staff studies credits.

Can your employer subsidize your study?

[Bob Viking]

I assume you've already chatted to them but there'll be plenty of your RCAF brethren in the same boat. When I was out there I knew several guys on Sqn who were studying for them as they went (OU style). All paid for.

BV:ok:

[Hueymeister]

Yup, but the list of courses paid for is, sadly, very short and very...boring:{:(:O

[chinook240]

Surely the quickest degree is to do the 10 month ACSC and pick up an MA in Defence Studies. King's College London - MA in Defence Studies (http://www.kcl.ac.uk/sspp/departments/dsd/study/mads/index.aspx)

[Tankertrashnav]

You can have mine if you like. I enjoyed doing it in my 40s (university is wasted on the young) but I don't need it now!

Re time taken to get a degree. When I was doing mine I put forward the idea that there ought to be a two year option, with shorter vacations and more intensive learning, as I considered there was a large amount of free time built into the course. Of course this in theory is meant to be taken up with study, but in fact much of this time is devoted to acquiring then sleeping off hangovers. When I put my suggestion forward I was shouted down by fellow students who thought themselves hugely overworked already, putting in a solid 15-20 hour week for 30 weeks a year, so I doubt if it will ever happen!

[Floppy Link]

Huey you do know this means rescinding your membership of FOLA to become a graduate...

[Hueymeister]

Regrettably, yes..sad times....:}:{:sad::ugh:

[NutLoose]

You don't give a chap a lot of time, but I tried ;)

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/LSP%20forum/Hueymeister_zpsgdzvzk7m.jpg~original

:O:O


run one off here

http://www.diploma-degree.com/

[theonewhoknows]

If you are still in the military you can gain accreditation through the City and Guilds. This will vary with your rank. These are NVQs, or equivalent. For example, a flt lt can gain the 'equivalent' of an Honours Degree and a sqn ldr can gain the equivalent of a Master's. I believe you can still apply post service - 5 years? These are recognised qualifications.

You apply through your Education Section, or whatever it's called these days.

[Ascoteer]

If you are still in the military you can gain accreditation through the City and Guilds. This will vary with your rank. These are NVQs, or equivalent. For example, a flt lt can gain the 'equivalent' of an Honours Degree and a sqn ldr can gain the equivalent of a Master's. I believe you can still apply post service - 5 years? These are recognised qualifications.

You apply through your Education Section, or whatever it's called these days.

Any more info on this would be appreciated!

[EESDL]

SFONI says it's ok if you can buy it ;-)

[zic]

CLANG expects a full and unreserved apology once you acquire your degree:D

[Chinny Crewman]

http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflearningforces/courseinfo/theraffoundationdegree.cfm

[Chinny Crewman]

http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflearningforces/courseinfo/accredprog.cfm

Pretty much a free degree if you have signed up for the Enhanced Learning Credit scheme.

[Axel-Flo]

Think I see where you're going with this HM. You're trying to justify your, ineptitude, buffoonery, failures, misunderstanding, ignorance and general lack of service knowledge associated with rank and experience by becoming, retrospectively, a "Greensheilder" ;)
Explains so much like the lime green Mankini perhaps....
And definately, unless you buy it having done no work, FOLA membership and any honorary status with such kindred groups (Flag?) should be immediately recinded....:ok:

[Hueymeister]

Axel, you got me..busted..

..and the Mankini:yuk:, sailor hat (worn at jaunty angle) and the road bike (the owner bought a new seat after my trip around the mess:yuk:) were all borrowed.

[teeteringhead]

HM My inbox now clear for the PM you're trying to send......... :ok:

[heights good]

Try via Google -

Staffordshire Uni Armed Forces degrees

RAF Learning Forces

City and Guilds Senior Awards

Those should give you quite a few options.

[rej]

With that amount of time in the Forces why not go straight for an MSc using your ELCs to fund most of the tuition and let your budget holder pay your T&RE.. City Uni in London does a great set of 3 MSc courses in Air Transport Mgt, Air Maint Mgt and Air Safety Mgt. Your Mil service will qualify you to do the MSc without the schoolboy BSc.

It'll take some effort but well worth it

[EESDL]

City Uni could be a long commute from Canada for HM........
You've got me interested though - from idling viewing PPRUNE on a Sunday afternoon whilst taking a break from working out how to make my fortune - I'm now enrolling onto a p/t MSc.
Heck - if my daughter can do it.........

[teeteringhead]

Heck - if my daughter can do it......... Kind of one of the drivers behind my (very slow) OU degree.

Stopped the Teeterettes saying: "What do you know Pa, you've never been to Uni!!" :ok:

[charliegolf]

This may shorten the OU route.

Royal Air Force (RAF) | Credit transfer | Open University (http://www.open.ac.uk/study/credit-transfer/my-previous-study/professional-qualifications/bodies/royal-air-force-raf)

Credit Transfer is only usually for Level 1, but every little helps.

CG

[cats_five]

I have worked in IT & Computing for many years and finally decided to do an OU degree in the subject. No credits for my years of labour, but if it lets you skip the level 1 courses so much the better. I found them all unbearably tedious and time-consuming. It also looks like some of the qualifications can give level 2 credit as well.

[Hueymeister]

EESDL, she clearly has your Mrs' Brains...:};):p

[jayteeto]

My wife did a part time degree, my kids are degreeists, but I will NEVER SURRENDER to the dark side.
Mate, you have let us down.

Better the sack than be a Grad..........

[Pontius Navigator]

CharlieGolf, fascinating list, just a shame that it is so 'new'. Also what of the instructors who were trained before those dates, have A or B category ratings, or Spec N etc, but don't qualify when their students did.

What is so magical about the basic training but OCU studies and Sqn Cat checks are not considered?

[minigundiplomat]

With that amount of time in the Forces why not go straight for an MSc using your ELCs to fund most of the tuition and let your budget holder pay your T&RE.. City Uni in London does a great set of 3 MSc courses in Air Transport Mgt, Air Maint Mgt and Air Safety Mgt. Your Mil service will qualify you to do the MSc without the schoolboy BSc.

It'll take some effort but well worth it

Agree with rej.

I finished my MSc in 2010 after less than 2 years (whilst deploying every 6 months). I have never been short of work, and neither have my fellow students.

[charliegolf]

CharlieGolf, fascinating list, just a shame that it is so 'new'. Also what of the instructors who were trained before those dates, have A or B category ratings, or Spec N etc, but don't qualify when their students did.

What is so magical about the basic training but OCU studies and Sqn Cat checks are not considered?

You're right PN, but I believe the OU will look at any previous experience, so the OP might have a go. I have certainly seen 'old' courses on the list about 5 years back when I was doing mine. I used my 1978 Cert Ed and got 120 off L1!

CG

[cats_five]

120 off L1 is no L1 to do. Given the horror of many L1 courses that can only be good!

[charliegolf]

120 off L1 is no L1 to do. Given the horror of many L1 courses that can only be good!

:ok:

CG

[Pontius Navigator]

I managed to bring in 60 from Lincoln but my ISS was too old and there was no mention of other experiences. Downside of porting is not getting a particular named degree. However I then found I could double up and use half my first degree towards a second so got a BSc half-price.