China West A320 FO Spots

[bafanguy]

Is it a bit unusual to see a Chinese carrier advertising for what appears to be NTR narrow-body FOs ? I thought most of those slots when to locals.

https://www.pilotcareercentre.com/Pilot-Job-Posting-Pilot-Opening-Pilot-Job/9476/Asia/First%20Officer/Airbus%20A320/China%20West%20Air

[lee_apromise]

Their website is a joke.

Pilots – Overview

Fly high with Westair

Being a pilot isn’t your everyday job. It can be demanding and challenging, but with Jetstar it’s exciting and enjoyable too. We’re looking for pilots who thrive in a team environment, living and breathing our values with a cool head and mature attitude.

The Jetstar Group of Airlines includes wholly owned Qantas subsidiaries operating from Australia and New Zealand, and partner carriers including Jetstar Asia, Valuair in Singapore and Jetstar Pacific in Vietnam.

We are currently expanding the A320 and A330 fleet across the Jetstar Group which has opened up exciting international opportunities for motivated and professional Technical Crew.

They copied and pasted JetStar's website?? :D

[Primary Governor]

I was also surprised by this, usually TR and time on type required by all Chinese operators.

The copy and paste job on their site is disgraceful!

And the Ts&Cs listed :eek: Seem too good to be true?

I'm guessing the usual crap rosters, unstable, excessively demanding sim sessions, big divide between locals and ex pats etc, all present at China West Air?

[bafanguy]

Could it be their training pipelines aren't covering the demand ?

If they actually mean 1,000hrs total time (200 of which can be helicopter), that's really a sea change, right ?

[PropDude]

The T&C listed on Pilot Job - China West Air - PILOT CAREER CENTER (http://www.pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job-Posting-Pilot-Opening-Pilot-Job/9476/Asia/First%20Officer/Airbus%20A320/China%20West%20Air)

150,000$ for 1000 TT with 200 in helicopters???

But is this really a sign that things are changing in the market or just an HR mistake :E

West Air if i am not mistaken , is part of the Hainan Group.

[Metro man]

Emirates used to be 3000hrs medium jet, now if you've got a licence and a pulse they'll look at you.:)

[bafanguy]

PropDude,

If the ad is an HR mistake, it's a rather extensive HR mistake. :-)

I looked back through 10 days of the numerous and perpetual pilot ads by Chinese airlines and found few ads for NB FOs but the few I found required 250-500 hrs in type.

That's what made the West Air ad stand out from the herd.

If the ad as published is legit, I'd expect they'll be inundated by applicants.

[Primary Governor]

I applied, mainly out of curiosity.

Got an automated/blanket reply that my CV and documents would be evaluated and I would be contacted shortly.

When they see my experience maybe they'll realise they set their bar too low :}

[bafanguy]

PG,

Your assignment is to sneak up to the front lines and report what you see there. ;-)

[Primary Governor]

Wilco bafan :ok:

[schweizer2]

Hmmm, I can't even find the link to submit an application. :8

Email with CV sent but nothing received so far.

[arvida]

Do they pay for your type rating?

Are the living conditions as bad as two years ago?

[5040302010retard]

got this 2 days back



Airline Hiring Dashboard


Dear Captain

Your resume was received. West Air Careers team will review your resume and documents and will notify you of the result via this email in short time.

Notification and final confirmation of your employment in China West Air will be sent via this email, Therefore, wait for our notification in the coming days.

Good luck





Captain. Lee

HR - Pilot Recruitment Manager

西航事業
Chongqing Jiangbei International Airport
P.O Box 100856

www.westaircareers.com

[schweizer2]

Is there some sort of application link I am not seeing?

[Primary Governor]

No application link, I just emailed.

[arvida]

Got this today :

``Welcome to the China West Air.

After reviewing your document and resume, our team has acknowledged you eligible for employment as a First Officer Airbus 320 in China West Air.

Please read the following explanations carefully.

Before your Arrival to China it is necessary that our company, as the employer, take the necessary actions for your attendance in China Country including providing the round-trip tickets to beijing + getting Visa + accommodation and food costs during your presence here + insurance expenses + expenses of reviewing your documents and certificates in Civil Aviation Administration of China Department + expenses of Medical examinations + Psychometric testing + Simulator testing + special tour to be familiarized with the China Country. A majority of expenses has been undertaken by China West Air and some parts have been laid on you. Therefore, you are required to pay an amount into the China West Air company's account in order that the mentioned cases to be done and the necessary actions for your presence to be taken.

Therefore you should transfer amount $975 into the following account number up to date 1/15/2016 and send us the scanned deposit receipt via this email in order that your employment process to be started and you will be invited for interview.

After sending the scanned deposit receipt to us, immediately, the process of getting your Visa will be started and in the shortest possible time, we will notify you of the result and finally we will invite you to travel to the China as an specified schedule. If you have any question, don’t hesitate to communicate with us via this E-mail. See more details about The Recruitment Process.

Besides, it is necessary you send us a high-quality scan of your passport via this email.

We look forward to welcoming you in China, and to your career as a First Officer with China West Air.

Good Luck``



Really looks like a prank! And yes, like an another person said, the official website is .cn!

How can you be sure that is legitimate? You have to be really desesperate to send them 1000$ so easily.

I don't even know if they pay for type rating...

[Primary Governor]

Thanks for posting arvida.

Alarm bells ringing!

I have yet to receive anything further. I don't think I want to now!

If I receive similar, I'll try to negotiate!

Like, send me the round trip tickets and I'll send you the 900$.

But all in all, it seems like a scam ?

[bafanguy]

HOLY SMOKE !!!!!! That took an ugly turn in a hurry !!!

I see now that much of the stuff about sending money to an account is on their website. I don't know anything about that step in the process.

Has any other expat in China experienced a similar application format and found it legit ?

RUN AWAY ?!?!?!

[safelife]

All I can say is that China has no shortage of qualified First Officers.

[BAe 146-100]

Scam with a capital S, China has enough local fo's, not enough Captains.

You really think with 250 hours in a cessna you will get the golden ticket to China and 100,000 USD...:D:D

[bafanguy]

BAe 146-100,

That's the impression I had. It's what made the West Air ad seem out of the norm...and that's what it seems to be. It's a jungle out there ! :-)

[Olegmagellan]

Airline Hiring Dashboard


Dear Captain Oleg Magellan

Congratulation

Welcome to the China West Air.

After reviewing your document and resume, our team has acknowledged you eligible for employment as a First Officer Airbus 320 in China West Air.

Please read the following explanations carefully.

Before your Arrival to China it is necessary that our company, as the employer, take the necessary actions for your attendance in China Country including providing the round-trip tickets to beijing + getting Visa + accommodation and food costs during your presence here + insurance expenses + expenses of reviewing your documents and certificates in Civil Aviation Administration of China Department + expenses of Medical examinations + Psychometric testing + Simulator testing + special tour to be familiarized with the China Country. A majority of expenses has been undertaken by China West Air and some parts have been laid on you. Therefore, you are required to pay an amount into the China West Air company's account in order that the mentioned cases to be done and the necessary actions for your presence to be taken.

Therefore you should transfer amount $875 into the following account number up to date 1/20/2016 and send us the scanned deposit receipt via this email in order that your employment process to be started and you will be invited for interview.

After sending the scanned deposit receipt to us, immediately, the process of getting your Visa will be started and in the shortest possible time, we will notify you of the result and finally we will invite you to travel to the China as an specified schedule. If you have any question, don’t hesitate to communicate with us via this E-mail. See more details about The Recruitment Process.

Besides, it is necessary you send us a high-quality scan of your passport via this email.

We look forward to welcoming you in China, and to your career as a First Officer with China West Air.

Good Luck

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Account number :

Swift: TOJITJ22
Account Number: 26204978400000000001
Details of payment: For replenishment of card number 4132093400022743



Captain. Lee

HR - Pilot Recruitment Manager

西航事業
Chongqing Jiangbei International Airport
P.O Box 100856

Westaircareers ? China West Air Careers (http://www.westaircareers.com)

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[Primary Governor]

I also received the same.

[TUIFly]

It's scam.
SWIFT code belongs to bank in Tajikistan.
I don't think they have anything to do with China West